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GadolhadorahParticipant
AAQ: Brilliant protocol in its simplicity and elegance…one could always build on R Kaminetsky’s approach to use a superscript R2, R3, or R4… so as to show how incredibly “chashuvah” you think a particular Rav really is. More importantly, the news page editors could probably save two valuable lines of honorific prefixes when referencing an especially chashuvah and heilege Rav simply as R7 Gavornliker etc.
GadolhadorahParticipantSo I guess there isn’t any consensus on WHO is the “gadol hador”,”gadolei hador” nor is there even agreement that the terms have any relevance or real world significance. Yet, in some cases, there still seems to be a competition as to how many honorific prefixes we can put before the name of a Chashuvah Rav as if that will somehow endow anything he says/does with greater prescriptive value.
Shabbat Shalom or a gutten Shabbos or whatever….
GadolhadorahParticipantPekak: Its not a matter of “kedusha” of a building…its the significance of what happens in that building as it affects our country and political system. . If you believe the Capital or WH have the same significance in real world terms as a post-office in Portland or a courthouse in Seattle, thats your opinion.
GadolhadorahParticipant100 percent true that vaccines DO work if you define “work” correctly as we have for every other vaccine in history. The public description of the vaccine efficacy metrics were screwed up from the beginning and continue to this day. They work in terms of what they were intended to do, the fail miserably in terms of what everyone from the CDC to the politicians said it would do. Worst communications in the history of public health outreach by a government agency.
GadolhadorahParticipantI try to never allow anyone to find room on my left in matters of politics and social policy AND I agree that most of your points are true at at a high level….BUT, my progressive friends have OVERSTATED or MISSTATED some key facts under each of your big lies. For example, its 100 percent true that vaccines WORK but from the very beginning under Trump and continuing through the very recent past, they never should have been characterized as providing as nearly 100 percent effective against “catching covid” as compare to a proper characterization of reducing the liklihood of infection and severity of illness if you were infected. Likewise, January 6th was a violent attack on the capitol conducted almost entirely by a wierd and eclectic band of Trump supporters including many white supremacist and right wingnuts (not Antifa or a false flag FBI operation) and reflects a dangerous cancer and polarization in our political system but it was not a pre-planned and coordinated “insurrection” directed by Trump and his meshughah band of “stop the steal” supporters and not on a level with Pearl Harbor, 9/11 etc. Same with virtually your other ponts. We live in a world where there aren’t 50 shades of political grey or even one. Everything is black/white, taken to an extreme and tempered with adjectives adopted to fit the political narratives taken by each side.In a world of 15 second sound bytes, it takes too long to provide an accurate and nuanced description of reality.
GadolhadorahParticipantUJM: When you aren’t engaged in your usual misogynistic trolls, you are actually one of the smartest guys in “the room” (Starbucks, not Enron Trading) and inadvertently offer really insightful and informative responses.
GadolhadorahParticipant“I once met a farbrenteh satmar bochur”
What, pray tell, is a FARBRENTEH satmar bochur
I checked my YWN thesaurus and it too, had no clue.
GadolhadorahParticipantSN: Wrong about WHAT??
GadolhadorahParticipant“The idea of Gadol Hador itself is very questionable, and has no source in Jewish tradition…”
Tell that to the editors of this site and other frum sites who consistently use the term in what you apparently deem a form of journalistic kefirah.GadolhadorahParticipantI think UJM makes the crucial point that all of these honorific titles are relative. Not l’havdil to compare it to sports, politics or other sectors but absent objective and universally agreed upon metrics, there really is no way to “prove” who was the “greatest” or “most important” anything. That doesn’t preclude frequent media efforts to use such honorifics or even promote readership around readership surveys. Several of the above posts are really informative and educational (at least for me) as to how the concept has evolved in the past several decades.
GadolhadorahParticipantInteresting the YWN and other frum media, have been using the honorific title of “gadol hador” for the past decade or so with respect to several of the rabbonim mentioned above as well as some post-War gadolim such as Rav Moishe, etc. Most appear to be Litvish, but Chassidim would presumably consider their own Rebbe as “their gadol”
GadolhadorahParticipantTSB: Sounds like a frum superhero from a new Marvel production
GadolhadorahParticipantAAQ: some good points but you also miss the growing trend in some deep Red jurisdictions (state and local) to actually engage in their own perverse cancel culture by enacting legislation that would literally “neutralize” discussion of slavery in the same way that stupid Texas school administrator insisted her teachers had to present “both sides” of the holocaust. Its one thing to avoid indoctrinating younger student with “guilt” for the embedded racism in America’s founding and lasting to some extent through today but to restrict teaching of the basic facts of slavery and post-civil war racism in U.S. history is the functional equivalent of Holocaust Denial to Black Americans (and I’m usually the one complaining about using the Shoah as a analogy to anything).
GadolhadorahParticipantIf these stories somehow provide some relief, stress-relaxation, emunah confirmation or whatever, then go ahead and believe them, along with some of the more outlandish promises of segulahs and other new age stuff you see advertised on frum social media sites. In most cases, they do no harm and may actually provide a positive for some. At times, they strike me as borderline kefirah but I’m not one to judge.
GadolhadorahParticipantWas he the Chabad moishichist who went around singing and engaging with guys on the street to acknowledge the rebbe etc. etc. Last I heard, he was moving to EY but perhaps Covid slowed him down
GadolhadorahParticipantCA: CRT is a great social wedge issue invoked by a lot of really mindless Trump waanabees who have no clue what it means and even less awareness that it is virtually nonexistent in curricula of most public schools at the elementary and high school level (even in Blue States). However, as we have seen in recent elections in Virginia and elsewhere, it WORKS to generate both campaign contributions and votes.
GadolhadorahParticipantWhen was the last time you paid cash for anything besides a babysitter?
Are you a Luddite?? All the babysitters in our area prefer to be paid through one of the ACH transfers like Zelle or Venmo. Most would not know what to do with “cash” anymore.
GadolhadorahParticipantThey remain “legal tender” even though the Treasury is gradually taking them out of circulation. Some merchants may decline to accept them but all federally chartered banks by law will continue to accept them and covert to other forms of currency (coin or paper). The $2 dollar bills were withdrawn very quickly but remain legal tender.
GadolhadorahParticipant“The baba sali was the real deal..”
So whats with the ads running on many frum websites soliciting donations for segulahs?January 4, 2022 8:33 am at 8:33 am in reply to: Is the enthusiastic sholom aleichem a new thing? #2047955GadolhadorahParticipantfollick: So would you agree that a GREETING of “Aleichem Shalom” would not make the GREETER a Ganov under Rav Hunah’s pshat?? Either combination of the words would appear to satisfy the obligation of bestowing peace on the other party although not necessarily in proper grammatical format.
January 4, 2022 8:20 am at 8:20 am in reply to: 🦠😷Raise Your Hand if You’re in Quarantine!😷🦠 #2047952GadolhadorahParticipantIs this the world-famous CR where ehrliche adult yidden exchange deep thoughts on lamdus and hashkafah or have I somehow dialed into my grandkid’s instagram stream with colorful emojis and mindless diversionary chit chat??
GadolhadorahParticipantWhen the SAME posters keep regurgitating variations of the SAME musar-posts on tzinius (moving from sheitels to neckline, to sleeve length to skirt length with an intermittent gevalt about sightings of “form-fitting” garments and starting over again with snoods, tichels or shpitzels ), mockery is an appropriate response. And no, the “mocker” may well be shomer shabbos and kashrus.
January 3, 2022 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm in reply to: Is the enthusiastic sholom aleichem a new thing? #2047774GadolhadorahParticipantIts a relatively “new” thing. In the Alte heim, one yid meeting another might inquire ? וואס מאכסטו or other variations of “How are you doing bro? or”How are you?”.. What might be interpreted as a perfectly innocent question in English could simultaneously be deemed a provocation in Yiddish, a lashon which does not lend itself to happy talk. “How SHOULD I be?” might be a fairly neutral answer to the question. While theoretically possible to say “gants gut”, I don’t think I’ve ever heard that response.
If you are a non-conformist, perhaps initiate the greeting with “aleichem shalom”, leaving the bewildered respondent to figure out whether he should revert with a “shalom aleichem” (which should have been your initial greeting” OR just echo your aleichem shalom and continue on his way trying to figure out whether he had just been dissed.GadolhadorahParticipantAlternatively, evolve into the shul of the future in a yiddeshe metaverse, get rid of the seforim (properly), install a high speed wireless connection with hot-spots in each of the 11 rooms and create a virtual library with all the most popular seforim available on the new “Shtenderextender.Com” App (download on Apple Store). For davening on shabbosim, they will have new Apple shabbosdik virtual reality eyeglass where in lieu of siddurim, the tfillos appear before your eyes and the text moves with your eye motions. (Note: Currently available only in nusach Sfard)
GadolhadorahParticipantUJM: These are not “petty” infractions. Its starts with selfishly leaving seforim spread around the beis medrash, then the emboldened perp ignores the pleas of the Rav to do tshuvah and engage in a week or two of “community service” and soon escalates to challenging leadership of the kiddush club and openly schmoozing with a fellow disruptor during the d’rashah. You have to stop this madness in the beginning before it spirals out of control.
GadolhadorahParticipant“you have one of the biggest bank accounts in shomayim that’s possible..”
Thats true, but you are likely to bounce the rent check if you try paying the landlord with a check drawn on that account. Even your tuition check for the kid’s yeshiva may likely be returned for insufficient funds (at least in olam hazeh which I surmise is the OP’s current situation). One of the respondents above notes that when confronted with that reality, he made a decision to find a more balanced lifestyle where he earned a parnassah to supplement his wife’s income while still learning. Bottom line: Either marry a wealthy kalah or make some common sense decisions to share the responsibility to support the family while learning as much time as possible.GadolhadorahParticipantLooks like 2022 will be no better than 2021 in terms of the pathetic cries from the dysfunctional self-appointed tzinius police seeking help for their yetzer horah addictions. Good news is that there are some excellent self-help books available for these troubled neshamas along with professional therapists (some advertising here on YWN) that will take on even the most difficult cases. A refuah shelamah in ’22 and may you be zocheh to not get run over by an 18 wheeler crossing the street while focused on the bare knee across the median strip.
GadolhadorahParticipantSome schools are now requiring X hours of community service, just as public schools do. Perfect assignment for adolescent boys to fulfil the requirements.
Why an assignment for “adolescent boys”. After the Rav firmly makes the point several times about returning seforim to the bikhershanks rather than leaving then randomly on the shtenders and tables, the chronic offenders should be tasked with replacing the books for a week or two or invited to find a new shul to daven.
GadolhadorahParticipantYes, Yes, No.
GadolhadorahParticipantIf you are MO or lean more towards modern ivrit, you’ve probably had the experience of going to a simcha at a DEEEP Litvishe shul and going up to someone after davening and offering a crisp “shabbat shalom” only to be met with a quizzical or hostile stare (sort of like someone who goes around deliberately running chalk on a blackboard). By the second or third time, you quickly find yourself doing your best “gooooten shabboss” followed by a request for directions to the kiddush.
December 30, 2021 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm in reply to: The world should take action on Israel’s treatment of charedim #2046810GadolhadorahParticipantRomain: Perhaps you meant that the U.N. should take action against a segment of the Chareidi tzibur that for years has disrupted and terrorized the majority of the Israeli population with their hafganot that block traffic for hours, physical and verbal attacks on women who don’t meet their standards of tzinius, vandalize public property for display of advertisements they dislike etc. I agree that action is necessary but the Israeli security forces have finally realized enough is enough and are now more forcefully responding to these misguided “Chareidim” and I don’t think it is necessary to involve the U.N.
GadolhadorahParticipant“….Given the perception of licenced and accredited clinical psychology as not being a “frum” profession”’
Whose perception?? I have several frum friends who are licensed CSWs and board-certified psychologists and psychiatrists. During the summer, you can find some minyanim on Cape Cod and MV where the majority of daveners are mental health professionals (service providers, not patients)
GadolhadorahParticipant$4000/month won’t cover the mortgage for a 2 or 3 BR condo in many cities. You would need to have both parents working just to cover housing, food and medical care, leaving little for school tuition (teachers have children too who need to go to school).
GadolhadorahParticipantAAQ: Absolutely fascinating story….who would have thunk they had Turdukin in “Gemorah Times” and some fool tried to pass off beans for the bird. Such a shandah.
GadolhadorahParticipantI agree with note above that this post is more likely posted out of ignorance than any stupid effort to troll. Every activity a yid engages in during the course of a day, whether in his/her professional life or personal life, carries with it some degree of moral and spiritual risk. We have rabbonim who have used their positions of authority to engage in abusive and predatory behavior. We have recent episodes of a highly respected frum rav placing cameras in a mikvah to photograph women he was assisting in conversion. We have had frum medical professionals engaged in sexual assault. Hopefully, the OP will reflect on the underlying contradiction of his question. Now, more than ever, we need MORE not fewer frum men and women entering the mental health field and offering greater access to mental health services.
December 29, 2021 10:45 am at 10:45 am in reply to: My Poasts/Comments are not getting Approved. #2046005GadolhadorahParticipantPerhaps if you “posted”, more of your “poasts” would go through. Also, you should be pushing the “submit” link in the lower right corner of the screen rather than the “delete” link in the upper right corner.
GadolhadorahParticipant“I found as a rule the people busy talking about food are very shallow people with no real interests in life……”
Actually, quite the opposite. I have a good friend who is a researcher at Sloan Kettering in NYC (who was at one time considered for a nobel prize for his work in molecular biology) is also an outstanding chef and is fascinated by the food chemistry of cooking. In between, he also finds time for a daf yomi going on 6 or 7 years now. I don’t consider him, nor many of our other frum friends who enjoy (and talk about) good food and many other subjects to be “shallow”. Nor are they obsessive to the point of searching for the perfect woodland mushroom or artisinal salt.GadolhadorahParticipantSeems like the biggest factor will be the degree to which the Rs can move beyond Trump (and the Trump waanabees) and find a principled conservative and whether the Ds can avoid a contest as to who among them is the most “woke’ and promises to give away the most “free stuff”.
Sadly, I’m not optimistic that either is a likely outcomeGadolhadorahParticipantAD….very interesting and compelling argument. I would suspect the same inyan would apply to any “secular” (with a lower-case “s”) activity/hobby engaged in by a yid which moves beyond the level of a diversion for physical/mental health needs and becomes a quasi-obsession.
GadolhadorahParticipantIts really a strech to claim that if one kvels about the food that the Ebeshter has provided to us and for which we thank him each time we take a bite, he is elevating his love of farina, kishka or mapu tofu over his love of hashem and violates the issur of lo sasuru, and the mitzvas asei of veahavta es Hashem….
Ahavas tofu and ahavas hashem are NOT mutually exclusive!!GadolhadorahParticipantMy frame of reference is probably more limited but I recently heard many of the same observations from speakers at the Chabad annual asifah for their shalichim and the Agudah convention several weeks ago. I do believe there is a shortage of qualified teachers, Covid accelerated an existing trend towards retirement among some of the better albeit older teachers and we are not paying enough attention to chinuch training for the new newly recruited replacements (nor are we paying sufficient salaries but I suspect that will always be an issue)
GadolhadorahParticipant“A Yid shouldn’t be a foodie…”
Azoy, ….too much time spent dissing bnos yisroel and not enough time checking out the early versions of the Michelin ratings in Eretz Cannan. When Yitzchak avinu (aka the Founding Foodie) wanted a simple roast goat with a good cabernet) and Yaakov learned of his desire, he immediately worked with Executive Chef Rivkah Imanu and provided his father with a four-star repast, (although the reviewer noted a few goat hairs on the plate that might have fallen off the server’s uniform).
Throughout our history and mesorah, FOOD has been part of the centrality of yiddeshkeit.
B’taavon!!GadolhadorahParticipantMany of the really outstanding “educators” (versus teachers) in our yeshivos and beis yaakovs were older and considering retirement even before Covid. After 2 years of dealing with Covid (often w/o the resources and support provided in more affluent schools) they are leaving in record numbers and generally replaced by younger, less experienced teachers. The system is over-extended and the quality of instruction will suffer. Too many yeshivos, too much duplication of physical facilities and excess administrative overhead, too little focus on training and instructional skills. As someone noted above, entry level teachers are viewed almost as an afterthought as a fungible commodity rather than being the core focus of our yiddeshe mosdos.
GadolhadorahParticipantAAQ: The “studies” I referenced were undertaken by private sector entities such as Ford Motor Company (as the basis for its decision to phase out all gasoline vehicle production) and PG&E, SoCal Edison, AEP and several others of the largest electric utilities in the U.S. who have planned billions of dollars in new capacity additions around the anticipated trends in electric vehicle charging and home storage. Yes, governments do “studies” too as the basis for policy development but not rational business person commits serious dollars based on government studies or market forecasts.
GadolhadorahParticipantJohn Delaney, former MD Congressman would be a great choice for the Dems, but for the “electability” factor. If I recall correctly, he started his campaign for 2020 before any of the other Dems, spent a lot of his money, visited EVERY county in Iowa and still couldn’t gain any traction (less than 1 percent of the primary vote) before dropping out. On substance, he was among the best with good ideas, and a private sector track record.
GadolhadorahParticipant“….chinuch for girls, elementary, high school, and seminary will be conducted by single girls recently graduated from the seminaries. You won’t find experienced teachers willing to work for wages that contribute nothing to their tafkid to raise their families..”
Perhaps their husbands will realize that THEIR task is to support their families so they can afford to send their kids to good schools with qualified teachers.
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GadolhadorahParticipantMost studies of electric vehicle market penetration assume that recharging will occur primarily during off-peak periods when most utilities will have considerable excess capacity. The modeling generally supports that assumption and indicates there will be sufficient generation to meet that charging load. There are even studies showing that in a subset of emergency situation (unforeseen offpeak power outages) technology exis
ts that would allow utilities to draw upon power stored in tens of thousands of electric vehicles at homes and commercial garages to maintain essential services or provide “black-start” capability to local generation.GadolhadorahParticipantAAQ: Obviously there is no objective source of data on convictions under the securities and banking laws, tax code, foreign corrupt practices act, and old fashioned fraud and contract law violations. When I scanned the annual SEC enforcement reports, I didn’t recognize many of the names whose FEC contributions skewed heavily Democratic. My point, as I think you surmised, was a bit sarcastic in terms of the stupidity of painting a poltiical party, racial or religious group etc. with a broad brush and saying that they ALL are X, Y or Z (or maybe all 3)
GadolhadorahParticipantSyag: Agreed, totally off-topic, but I’ll stipulate to not being out on the streets with a PETA hoodie burning down our local vegetarian restaurant (that has a good Chassideshe hashgacha).
GadolhadorahParticipantAnd most Republicans are ganovim and engage in immoral acts…
Studies by various public interest groups show that tax compliance among Republicans is much lower than Dems and that over 80 percent of IRS ordered tax refunds for violations of the code come from Republicans (as imputed from FEC reports) . Tax cheating is ganavah from the entire tzibur since others have to pay higher taxes to make up for the shortfall in anticipated government revenues. Likewise, a disproportionate percentage of those convicted of corporate bribery and violations of the FCPA are also self-identified Republicans (as per FEC reports and their own social media postings on behalf of candidates). The amount of ganavah by R’s pales in comparison to the nickel and dime stuff done by attributed to D’s and their misguided political leadership.
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