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the bracha is made on ALL megillos if read from klaf. FOr this reason many have the minhag not to lein eicha from Klaf
I am aware that it is legal in certain states. The FDA only controls interstate commerce.
One can also say that the death tolls will rise sharply should it become more readily available and more widely distributed.
This conversation has gone off the point of this case quite quickly.
The issue is not that the FDA is saying what one can eat and what one cannot eat. The issue is what the FDA allows to be SOLD. The issue here is that there are people who are angry that the FDA is preventing the sale of milk straight from the cow “as is”. They argue that their “right” to such milk is being taken away from them.
The FDA’s response is that a) they pasteurize the milk for good reason, and, b) availability of a specific food is not a right.
Laws are also specific to each state, but no state outlaws the DRINKING of such milk. Vermont, IIRC, allows it to be drunk only by the owners of the cows.
Using an extreme to put this into perspective. One can eat meat well past its sell date. One can also choose to eat rat meat. But the sale of rat meat and meat past its expiration date is what is forbidden.
Please look at the history behind non-pasteurized milk, swill milk, and deaths resulting from tainted milk pre-pasteurization prior to taking an anti-FDA side to this argument. They are truly protecting the public here, despite the whole-milk hippies objections.
Oh Boy, I saw this debate years ago.
In short. The question here is whether milk must be pasteurized or not.
Prior to pasteurization, milk was not healthy. This lead to something called swill milk being served. It caused many deaths, especially amongst children. Laws followed, to improve the quality of the milk, and one of the laws was the need for pasteurization to maintain the health of the milk.
There are people now who believe that milk straight from the cow is healthier and better. and they want the laws forcing pasteurization to be changed.
Truth be told, IMHO the reward does not outweigh the risks. Kudos to the FDA on this one
Actually, Ben Torah, In the Lakewood election Levin went out and said “Don’t Vote” This is something that has NEVER been paskened by ANY gadol previously. That, coupled with the fact that it was said in the face of the Va’ad and R’ Shteinman paskening to vote (and whom to vote for) is the proof he went against da’as torah (as was the original question)
Health, How exactly did I prove I was wrong?
Since when do you look at the result as a proof?
A Gadol says something (actually here a number of them), people chose that they had more da’as torah then the gedolim. And since the majority chose they know more than R’ Shteinman (or that R’ Shteinman was misled) therefore that is a proof that it was true?
That is like saying that the miraglim were right cause the majority of people sided with them ofer Yehoshua and Calev.
By the way. Also a tough card to play when R’ Shteinman says “Listen to R’ Kotler and the Va’ad” What exactly are you going to say? Both R’ Shteinman AND the Va’AD don’t know what they are saying?
I don’t go to concerts and my wife has sheitels with hechsherim. The band fall she was given and did not know its origin she destroyed.
You can tell a lot about someone from when he chooses to play the “gedolim don’t know what they are saying card”
There is a “renouned” “Rabbi” who often tells his “talmidim” the following “If R’ Elyashiv tells you not to go to Phoenix, AZ to do kiruv, don’t listen! He does not know you. He does not know kiruv, and he does not know Phoenix, AZ).
Good to know Kiruv is in the hands of those who reject Da’as Torah!
please give me an example of being mevazeh a talmid chacham :
R’ Shteinman says one thing: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/?p=41515
Levin says he could not have said it, implying R’ Shteinman does not know what he is talking about (and thus could not have said what he actually said and wrote)
ditties …
…Sixteen
Dietary …
… Yielded
People read the NY Times and see him on CNN. They then look here to see if we support this individual or if we don’t.
There is legitimate toeles in our speaking negatively about this individual.
A Yid does not “shout from the roofops” to go after other yidden. Ends don’t justify the means. R’ Chaim Shmuelovitz on Parshas Pinchas teaches us that if Pinchos’ actions were not 100% l’shem shamayim and done properly, he would have been chayav misa, even though he would have still gotten the halacha correct.
The Agudah objects in a frum newspaper whose contents are not available online. He replies on public radio with a link for all frum, frei and gentile to listen to him.
His actions speak louder than his words. He should be ignored. I beseech YWN to stop posting “news” about him.
2. Hadlakas Nerois for Yom Kippur, When one sees a tree budding,bedikas chametz, and the bracha at the end of Nachem at mincha on tisha b’av
btw, the question needs to be written “only once a year and every year”
Heres another crazy one-someone asked a friend of mine what animal would you compare the girl to!!!
ALWAYS ANSWER KANGAROO!! JUST JUMPING HAPPY ALL THE TIME
AND IF THEY ASK ABOUT A VEGETABLE ALWAYS SAY EGGPLANT. WHEN THINGS GET HOT, THEY GET BETTER (WHO EATS RAW EGGPLANT ANYWAYS?)
It is more than that, In cases of the baby being yellow, it is OSSUR to do the bris. I have heard modern medicine does not rule a baby being yellow as unfit for bris, it is the gemarra and shulchan aruch which states that one does not do a bris when the baby is yellow.
This is why it is futile to ask the doctors what is sufficient “non-yellow” for which to do a bris.
mosherose,
That was the height of chutzpa. I’m surprised it even got approved by the mods.
Sorry, I missed it, you’re right
With pleasure Mr. Wolf
Wolf,
The problem with whiskey is that it is aged many years. Lets say a store is selling an 8 year old whiskey, the question is were all 8 Pesachs done properly. With many companies this is not an issue. However, some of these ARE Jewish companies (Segrams is a Jew IIRC) and thus one needs to ensure that the whiskey he/she is drinking was sold every pesach.
The question is NOT how long it has been in the possession of the store, or what they did with it this past pesach, the issue is the life of whiskey in the bottle.
Keep in mind due to aging the questions regarding alcohol are much different than the usual questions regarding a Waldbaums or a Pathmark
A shadchan should not offer information of that sort freely. If you choose to ask about weight you are entitled to an accurate answer, but you should have no claim against the shadchan if info about weight was not provided due to the fact that you yourself did not inquire.
>>So for example, if someone claims that the “dictionary defines” liberaliism a certain way, does that change the fact that no conservatives are antisemites and only liberals ever are?<<
The Fact?? Man are you blind. Goyim hate us equally despite what their political affiliation is.
Oh, and since I need to actually show you how ludicrous your claim is, how about an organization called the KKK. How about White Supremacists?
FYI, if you want to be taken seriously, here are 2 pointers so that can help.
1. Use real facts, it makes you look like a fool claiming things which are false (e.g. that Clinton had no Blacks in his cabinet), especially those which can be easily researched.
2. Use spell check
Hmmm, the definitions came from the place where most definitions come from, something called a dictionary.
But since I need to lay everything out for you, otherwise your revisionist history will claim it was never there.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberalism
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservatism
I also noticed you declined to answer the point about the Jim Crow Laws, or Governor Wallace who stood at the steps of the University of Alabama to prevent the segregation of the school.
When you have an intelligent point to make, I’ll address it, until then I’ll ignore your hot air.
To my endarkened fiend hereorthere who is neither here nor there:
1. If the civil war WAS about slavery, please explain to me why five border states who had legalized slavery (Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, and West Virginia) were aligned withe the Union.
2. >>Conservatives believe in freedom and liberals are always looking for ways to control people and force them to do the liberals bidding. <<
Were the Jim Crow laws Liberal or Conservative? Was governor Wallace of Alabama a Conservative or a Liberal?
3. Look up the term Liberal and Conservative, you might actually learn something.
Liberalism : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class)
Conservatism: a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)
hereorthere, that was one of the dumbest things ever on this site, and that takes skill.
You bashed without giving reason for your objection, and your other proofs are crooked beyond belief.
>>Not one single liberal law has EVER been reversed (except slavery and THAT took a civil war to accomplish) <<
What made slavery a “liberal” law?
Oh, and any educated person would tell you that the civil war was NOT about slavery.
Once again congratulations on your accomplishment.