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Except there are people that do actually believe that
flatbusherParticipantYou can continue this if you want. This is a favorite topic of mine. I don’ recall any official suggestion to revitalize long-dormant threads. To me it seems like the work of someone who has not much else to do. I for one don’t care to be sent back to an old link on the same topic though it appears to be a favorite pastime of some here.
flatbusherParticipantLil: yes, sorry, meant for ubi.
Ubi: If you don’t know what the Obama administration has been doing for past eight years, then I guess I am not surprised you voted for Hillary, and probably her gender weighed in as a factor. OBama has been pushing a far-left progressive agenda, and if you haven’t noticed, this PC garbage is infringing on First Amendment rights, he handed over control of the Internet to a body that is not supportive of free speech, he made a horrible deal with Iran, which continues to violate it with impunity, standing of the U.S abroad has sunk because of his apologies, 94.5 million people out of work, a deficit of more than $20 trillion, when he blasted Bush for being unpatriotic for a deficit half that. SHall I go on?
flatbusherParticipantLil: I hear what you say but if the government works the way it is supposed to with checks and balances, there isn’t much he can do on his own. Obama has set a precedent with his executive orders. But none of the reasons you cited for me don’t rise as a reason to vote for Hillary. She represented more of Obama: did you want more of that?
flatbusherParticipantlilmod: what possessed you to dig back to a three-year old post?
flatbusherParticipantPeople assur things they don’t know about or don’t understand, or based it on what others tell them, and how they color it. I cannot imagine any rav telling a person that this is assur, unless the question was framed in a way that could involve halachic issues, like lifting weights on SHabbos, or in a mixed environment for someone who is sensitive to that.
flatbusherParticipantlightbrite: You have to believe that the hand of Hashem was in Trump’s victory. He won against all odds and all predictions. I do question though based on what did you vote for Hillary? I wince when I read frum people voted for her and can conclude they probably do not know what she stands for or her corrupt background, or worse, don’t care.
flatbusherParticipantYour personal choice. BUt I would be hesitant to date someone like this because there may come a time when he decides to stop taking his meds. I have heard cases where this has happened and resulted in divorce because off meds life became horror for the other spouse.
flatbusherParticipantBenigumam–you like others are missing my point. Not everyone who learns is at the level of looking at commentaries or asking a rabbi. Torah is not off limits to the partly learned or unlearned so your observations may work for those on a higher level. So given that for centuries there have been Jews who are not particularly learned, what would prevent those people from “taking it literally” and then questioning it.
flatbusherParticipantI am getting the impression that no one here has a good answer why there metaphorical interpretations.
flatbusherParticipantI have voted in every election, major or otherwise, since I was old enough to vote. It seems to absurd to vote for names without knowing what they stand far and who show no interest in know me.
CT: I am not talking about SHabbos issues, but you need to represent all people and there can be issues where the issue is contrary to your belief. But I know there is no way of convincing a person bent on being a politician that he shouldn’t, espcially since you seem to enjoy pressing the flesh.
flatbusherParticipantLily: My point, again, is why would meforshim think other than literal meaning? What is wrong with the literal meaning that would inspire them to find a metaphorical one that in concept may be harder to grasp.
flatbusherParticipantI am just reporting my experience here in Brooklyn. Because of lack of campaigning, I know nothing about the candidates on the ballot, so I should just pull a lever for anyone as long as a I pull a lever? I am not alone in not researching candidates especially if no one brings to our attention who is running. So you are in politics? I for one think frum people should stay out of politics.
flatbusherParticipantI don’t know froggie whether you are intentionally misinterpreting what I am saying or I’m not making myself clear. Again, let me state, why would the TOrah use metaphors instead clearly stating what it meant, especially since there are enough individuals who may not get the metaphor. Can I state it any clearer without you concluding that somehow someone (me?) is questioning chazal? Your response sounds like a bullying technique, like you better believe everything you hear lest you be labeled a.. whatever..
November 8, 2016 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm in reply to: Pareve versions of dairy foods are not worth the calories. #1191052flatbusherParticipantYou know, I think most foods are not worth the calories, not just the pareve dairy.
flatbusherParticipantI live in NY and I looked at all the relevant candidates. I would like to vote but honestly, the selection of people…most I haven’t heard of. No one of any note is running against Schumer, and we lose no matter if it’s Trump or Clinton. I do agree that if we don’t vote, it will look as if we don’t care. But I don’t recall seeing or hearing about single candidate for any office coming to my neighborhood or evne surrounding ones. SO seems candidates don’t care.
flatbusherParticipantLilmod: The problem I have with your explanation is that it requires a higher level than normal intelligence to understand that concept. Let’s face it we’re not all on that level, speaking for myself, and I have hard time understanding why the Torah, which is intended for all Jews, would present things that could be misinterpreted because someone doesn’t understand or grasp the deeper meaning.
I am sorry to say, this is along the same vein regarding some people who excel in gemara and others who either struggle or just don’t get it despite their effort. Despite some general impression that Jews in general are smart, not all of us are. WHen the Torah talks about the beauty of the imahos, the natural interpretation is physical beauty. If the TOrah meant middos, then why not state that they had beautiful middos?
flatbusherParticipantWHat is difficult is accepting explanations that are contrived. My simple question is why was it necessary to present things in the gemara in a way in which one would have to say that it should not be taken literally. Why not just include passages that don’t raise issues like this? Your answer is not an answer. It’s what commentaries do to make sense which apparently they themselves could not accept literally.
flatbusherParticipantI grew up with applesauce and latkes. My wife didn’t. It’s a cultural thing, I guess.
flatbusherParticipantI think there are several places where the girsa is corrected because of some suspected transmission error.
You’re dancing around the issue. This particular gemara I did hear from a rebbi and this is how he explained it. I didn’t question further after he said not to take it literally, and I just wonder if someone would explain differently.
flatbusherParticipantBut people DO learn on their own. Are you saying, they shouldn’t lest they misinterpret. And yes, my question has to do with the facts related in the gemara. Check it out. If it was incorrectly transmitted from the oral, well, that is a problem,no?
flatbusherParticipantThe fact is people do learn on their own and without someone to explain things, they will either take it literally or refuse to believe it literally. My question is that given that reality, I imagine even back in the time of the gemara there were people who would learn certain passages in wonderment. I am the type that likes things put out simply and clearly and just don’t know what to make of some passages. For example in Sanhedrin 59 there is a maaseh of two tanaim confront by a pride of hungry lions and two slabs of meat fell from heaven. WHere did prides of lions run among humans in either Bavel or Eretz Yisroel?
November 3, 2016 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm in reply to: Pareve versions of dairy foods are not worth the calories. #1191018flatbusherParticipantIt’s a matter of taste. Tofutti ice cream yes, but cheese slices? feh.
flatbusherParticipantI suspect there are fakers but from anecdotal evidence, it seems more common on web sites devoted to personals. Certainly anonymity allows one to convey different personality traits, but also for those who are authentic, often they are misunderstood or misconstrued because the words themselves are devoid of emotion, which can make a difference. I have been accused more than once of things that are not me but because what I wrote was misunderstood
flatbusherParticipantI wonder how many people are aware of issues and say nothing and then the marriage ends up in a divorce shortly after the wedding. In an effort to be halachically correct, how many lives have been altered in a terrible way?
flatbusherParticipantQuite honestly, weddings are so loud I find it difficult to carry on a conversation anyway. So I don’t mind sitting there in silence. I think the OP is making too much of this at a wedding. I could see maybe in other settings it’s more fo a concern. Having said all that, I tend not to stay past chupah anyway.
One final word: Unsocial, you are assuming that no one else there has a similar issue? Maybe they are all waiting for someone to reach out first.
flatbusherParticipantJoseph said: Shadchanim should be redting appropriate shidduchim to Yidden who have emotional or mental health issues that wish to get married.
YOu mean shadchanim should set up people with such issues with others with like issues? SOunds like a recipe for disaster
flatbusherParticipantAvi–your comment is what is wrong in America today (among other things). Just because one person may have been offended by a the term non-Jew doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with the term. Is there any sane person who thinks being called a non-Jew is offensive, in a world of rising anti-Semitism?
October 31, 2016 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm in reply to: He broke up and I don't understand why? Guys, can you explain this behavior? #1189432flatbusherParticipantSO just breaking off without explanation doesn’t hurt the other one’s feelings?
Lil–if what you say is true, then this guy should not be dating at all. So the next person he gets close to getting engaged to, the same thing will happen?
Which leads to the question: Should people would problems or issues they cannot reveal even date and get married?
October 31, 2016 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm in reply to: He broke up and I don't understand why? Guys, can you explain this behavior? #1189429flatbusherParticipantlilmod: We really are doing no more than speculating but if he really liked her enough I think a mensch would level with her. If you expect to spend the rest of your life with someone, then you have to be open on issues big and small. With dating, it’s often easy to just keep on going if it feels good. We have no idea how hard it was to break up but he had to know he would be causing great pain, so I know you are being dan l’chaf zchus, but a sudden breakup with no explanation sounds pretty cruel to me.
October 31, 2016 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm in reply to: He broke up and I don't understand why? Guys, can you explain this behavior? #1189426flatbusherParticipantOnce upon a time when I was dropped by a girl, I also asked for an explanation. The shadchan didn’t feel it would be helpful. Every case is different, of course, but is it possible that you missed red flags? How many couples have divorced shortly after the wedding when one spouse or the other reveals something that probably was hinted at during dating. Sometimes when we like people so much or want something so much, we overlook things that at the time we say is not a big deal. I am not suggesting you reflect over this. Best to move on. You are one step closer to your bashert.
October 31, 2016 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm in reply to: There Is No Eruv In Flatbush / Marine Park! #1188290flatbusherParticipantI believe the Vaad of Flatbush was responsible in the past. I never held by the eruv but am curious why this came up now.
October 31, 2016 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm in reply to: There Is No Eruv In Flatbush / Marine Park! #1188285flatbusherParticipantWhat is the source of this info on the eruv?
flatbusherParticipantMy first reaction when I saw the title of this thread was, how many people reading it know what the word pejorative means without looking it up.
Having said that, I don’t believe it is ever appropriate to use offensive words and I taught my children to have respect for everyone, regardless of what they hear. I don’t like them at all, even Goy, preferring non-Jew. One should also strive for lashon nekiah.
October 31, 2016 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm in reply to: He broke up and I don't understand why? Guys, can you explain this behavior? #1189423flatbusherParticipantI don’t know him or his rabbi but just being a rav does not necessarily imbue with special abilities or insights. I can tell you from experience that some people just need someone to decide things for them because they don’t want to be responsible for their decision. The rav apparently based his advice only on what the guy told him, which maybe accurate or skewed. As a person who got married older (mid 30s), I recalled once asking my rav advice whether to continue, and rather than decide for me, he guided me, and I made my own decision.
October 30, 2016 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm in reply to: He broke up and I don't understand why? Guys, can you explain this behavior? #1189408flatbusherParticipantI am so sorry to hear this. Everything is bashert so you must say gamzu l’tovah. I agree it is probably something with him. Maybe he has a fear of commitment, or some undisclosed medical issue. If he says he is confused, then take that as a red flag of what married life with him could be like. I do, however, wonder why he needs a rabbi to decide whether to continue dating. Maybe this guy is immature, and you would face a life of outsiders making decisions for him that would affect both you.
flatbusherParticipantInterestingly, Associated Press has in its style book that on second references members of the clergy are referred to as Mr. (or Ms. if that happens to be the case.)
flatbusherParticipantkup–you speak from experience?
flatbusherParticipantI don’t know if I agree that most Jewish music is copied, if you’re talking about the songs themselves. Back in the70s and 80s it seemed like ripping off of non-Jewish music was more common. Maybe because today’s goyish music is less musical it’s not copyworthy
flatbusherParticipantReally depends on the boy and what you’re looking for. You shouldn’t turn down a shidduch just based on where he goes to yeshiva unless it’s a place that is not in your sphere of interest (such as YU). My daughters have dated Chofetz Chaim boys and in general don’t fit into the mold as one might expect. Hatzlacha.
flatbusherParticipantI feel the same about people who leave early, but in some cases I know why they leave early. If you are already davening at the earliest possible time and need to travel to work some distance, I can understand that.
flatbusherParticipantI hear about communities siding with the husband and shunning the trapped wife. I wonder if someone reading these posts and is among them could shed light on why?
flatbusherParticipantYou mean what they call a VOrt today? I believe in previous generations the Vort was the tannaim. WHat they have a vort today is no more than an engagement party and if they called it as such maybe this practice will become less popular. The lchaim can serve as both, and people do combine them.
flatbusherParticipantI merely was looking at the psychological aspect. I make no judgments and am aware of different schedules and obligations at home. I think we all know the importance of davening, just trying to understand how people view it. Some of the harsh comments really don’t surprise me. And this has nothing to do with concern for assimilated Jews. Maybe we all should take davening more seriously. Gutte kvital
flatbusherParticipantWhat aveiros are you talking about?
flatbusherParticipantI never felt sad in my singlehood. I lived with the bitachon that Hashem is giving me what I need when I need it, and as shadchanim would say, each person you date brings you closer to your Bashert. Now you don’t want to hear about legitimacy about sadness, but understand that if you are sad, it is a negative feeling that do not attract people. One needs to find happiness in the current situation and not define one’s happiness based on getting married.
flatbusherParticipantShe sells to the public as retail. Call if she will ship out of town (Why do people use acronyms assuming everyone knows what they are?)
October 19, 2016 1:42 pm at 1:42 pm in reply to: Question to those who used to be older singles #1187348flatbusherParticipantSimply put, things just clicked. I didn’t analyze it the way you are trying to do. I was 35 when I got married, and when I met my wife, we just shared things in common, has easy conversation and she had a beautiful smile (and still does). I didn’t ever have a checklist but I did want someone who was interesting to talk to and shared similar hashkafa views as well as secular views on things like money, etc. In the end, follow your heart if basics in hashkafa are in sync
flatbusherParticipantCTlawyer–well I won’t argue with that experience, but in all my years and simchas, I saw the fake cake only that one time
flatbusherParticipantRegarding gemach cakes. I was at a vort where the gemach cake was just a prop–it wasn’t real, likely styrofoam with icing. Wish I had a video of the people trying to cut it!
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