flatbusher

I would think that any song that has Jewish-related theme is a Jewish song. In the past, Jewish music was often characterized by being composed in a minor key, but obviously that has changed with all the ripped-off goyishe styles that Jewish musicians have adopted.

zahavasdad: I have heard similar stories, and they are indeed all sad. Years ago I befriended a guy who had become frum but he didn’t like learning, and someone told him “ain am ha’retz chasid,” and he just gave up the whole thing.

Try cutting down gradually, instead of going cold turkey. So instead of cutting it completely, reduce the amount of time you spend on this. It worked for me.

Wasn’t Adam Ha-rishon the first Yekka, when the pasuk says “A’yekkah:”

I just have first hand experience from at least half dozen person observations, as well as discussions with friends of mine who can attest to the same. I guess you don’t think marriage requires maturity.

Lower standard of living? Have you any idea what basic necessities cost?

Lior: I’m saying what the boys are looking for. Have you had children in shidduchim? usually the mother is involved, and the first thing most seem to ask is dress size, then they want a picture, then they ask if the family is willing to support. If the ls are davka looking for a long-term learner, I don’t think income potential is an issue

Unfortunately, often when boys are looking for a shidduch, middos are not the No. 1. It comes after looks, dress size, money, etc.

I’ve heard strange things like bochurim in Lakewood told not to date anyone who has a college degree or who is going to college. I guess the girls’ future is supposed to be running playgroups for every conceivable age group, or to have their husbands go from shul to shul with their hands out. Not everyone is cut out to be a successful businessman, and the reality is that you need money for basic necessities, which include food, clothing and tuition. Of course, we have to have bitachon that Hashem will provide them, but we see that those who actually do make an effort and get trained in something and a job not only are able to provide for their families, but give tzedakah. So I am not sure what the original letter in this thread aims to do. It sounds like those who sit around doing nothing and believe thatthey will get the same parnassa as if they actually worked. We see it doesn’t work that way.

The original question is weird. why would someone not one to gain muscle? It takes a lot of effort to look musclebound unless one is genetically gifted but increased muscle in generally good for your health

I was thinking of that as well, not necessarily how they got that way, but the fact that the Torah mentions it. I think there are people who naturally endowed with great strength, so I don’t think you can bring the Torah as proof. More than the exercising issue, however, is the poor diet, which often is heavy with fat. That combined with lack of exercise could be lethal

If you are in a legal job, boring or not, I imagine it pays fairly well, and if it doesn’t, then maybe you should look elsewhere. I am not sure why you feel the need at this point to spend a year in Israel to learn, but you can also learn here, keep your job and still enhance your knowledge even if it isn’t full time. If you are really that interested in learning, a 9-5 job gives you plenty of evening time to study. To me, it doesn’t sound it’s worth upending your life, journeying into uncertainty that could easily distract you from your purpose for going. But may I ask, why is this your deam at this point in your life?

Lakewood today is not what it used to be. For people who want to learn there, if they depend on their wives for support, there are no real jobs there and many just start playgroups/babysitting services. One day, people will wake up and realize that Lakewood is just not a feasible option. Reasonable housing won’t make much difference if husbands continue to learn and not work, though it may keep more younger people. Brooklyn itself may not be played; people just may have to pioneer less expensive neighborhoods.

The fact that there are very few frum bodybuilders seems to suggest that people work out primarily for health and if that happens to make them look better, so what, and I would think most people would say that’s a good thing