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I was also disappointed that there were charges, but if it is something I want, like anything else, I pay for it. A similar issue is about people who daven in shuls and do not contribute in anyway. In Brooklyn, at least, I would imagine there is a majority of people who regularly daven in more than one place, and they should show their hakoras ha-tov, at the very least, by contributing in some meaningful way. No one will keep you out, but one should feel the obligation. As for the shiurim, since all these sponsors appear to be non-profits, think of it as tzedakah, though you are getting something in return.
flatbusherParticipantyou think 20 year old guys are mature enough to be married? I think it is better for young people to be unattached to explore what they want to do with their lives without the considerations of a wife, family and making a living. WHy do you believe they need to be married that young?
flatbusherParticipantThe original post is very troubling to me. Based on what can someone determine that one who davens longer is being ostentatious and that his tefilos will not be answered? The poster said a”mesora” but doesn’t there have to be a makor for it. There are places in the davening where an individual can personalize. He can add the names of sick people in Refaeinu, there are tefilos in Shema Koleinu asking forgiveness for chet, and daven for parnasa, and before stepping back one can add his own bakashos. This will all make for a longer shemoneh esrai. So one is ostentatious to implore Hashem? What is the point of davening if not to have personal communion with Hashem?
flatbusherParticipantIf everyone felt it was wrong, someone would have taken so action about just as do in other issues. So maybe not everyone sees it as wrong. I started the thread to raise the issue, no different from what other threads do.
flatbusherParticipantT613: I don’t know how you know that. So many thoughtless people? Hard to imagine. Still it does not excuse them from ever returning them. If this happens to the extent that so many seforim are left out, so how much learning is really going on?
flatbusherParticipantThe rebbeim are in charge of their students and are responsible not only to teach them Torah but to reinforce what their parents should e teaching them about derech eretz, respect for seforim and the bais medrish and all other matters related to their duties as a teacher. The parents are not present in school to see their kids’ behavior, but indeed if the parents are in shul with their kids they should instruct them to return seforim, but they may be just as guilty as the kids.
flatbusherParticipantleaving a sefer out? How about dozens of seforim out? Why are you defending their behavior?
flatbusherParticipantMaybe tolerated is a better word, but then it’s just semantics. In any case, if the hanhalah of a yeshiva did not tolerate it, it would not be happening as it would fall into the category of other behavior that would not be tolerated in a yeshiva.
flatbusherParticipantI agree, the meshualachim have no regard for our tefilos. If davening is our personal communion with Hashem, how dare someone barge in and distract? I immerse myself in my siddur and except for those who stick their hands under eyes, I pretty much am not aware of their presence. But when they do that, what mitzvah are they performing?
flatbusherParticipantSo far waiting for a reasonable explanation why some people go by their middle names.
flatbusherParticipantWhen I buy a dozen eggs, I am not about to investigate where it came from. How many people really are going to do this except for the PETA nuts?
flatbusherParticipantit is rude. was there not enough food? protein doesn’t fill you up, carbs do. Of course, large quantities of either will do the trick. But what kind of guest talks like that?
flatbusherParticipantNot sure if you are asking for health reasons or for some minhag that requires two proteins at a meal. Cold cuts may be from meat but with all the additives plus the seasoning it probably would not be considered a good source of protein. Shabbos morning protein would include gefilte fish, eggs/liver and some people serve cold chicken or turkey breast. I don’t know if I would consider cholent to be a good source of protein unless it’s all beans, but mostly it’s made with barley and potatoes as well.
flatbusherParticipantWith cleaning ladies so common in frum homes, people may never learn how to do a good cleaning job. I respect the work they do when they do a thorough job.
flatbusherParticipantYes, they said tachanun.
Avinu Malkeinu has alternative language for taanis tzibbur that isnot during asseres yemai teshuva.
flatbusherParticipantTheProf: I know a number of people who go by their middle names, and it was only after knowing them for awhile did I even learn they had a first name. So, if Jews don’t really have second names, then everyone should be called by all their names, but we see that isn’t thecase
flatbusherParticipantWell, I have been in several shuls here in Flatbush over the years where they didn’t, including this morning. And I didn’t say all shuls, I just said nusach sfard/chassidishe, because the ashkenaz always say Avinu Malkeinu.
July 5, 2015 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm in reply to: If you could only do one fun thing this summer….. #1090757flatbusherParticipantRide all the new rollercoasters on the East Coast.
flatbusherParticipantCuriosity said: “P.S. You seem to believe that learning Torah is done by Yidden because HaShem ordered to, even though we hate it. We like learning.It’s fun. Why do you think people look for heterim to learn during the times it is prohibited, or debate whether one can learn in shul during davening. Try it some time.”
I don’t know how true this is. I wouldn’t say we hate but many a boys do not like to learn, either because they find it too difficult to master or they are just not interested. So I think it is safe to say you can speak for yourself, but I don’t know how many would agree with your premise that learning is fun. It’s a chiyuv and you need to do it, fun or not.
July 1, 2015 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm in reply to: Non religious argument against same sex marriage #1089837flatbusherParticipantOther religions also oppose homosexuality, and the U.S. is based on Judeo-Chistian law, so the discussion of a secular reason to oppose it is really not relevant since this country has a religion basis and most people follow that. A secular argument would be that it goes against the nature of the species, whose continuity depends on sexual activity between a male and female, for without that, the species would die out. But other than that, there probably is no good reason to oppose. And as it is, even with the religious basis of the law, it doesn’t seem to make a difference anyway.
flatbusherParticipantCherrybim–Try Knesses Bais Avigdor. Rabbi Kahn gives an inspiring drashah but he is away for the summer
flatbusherParticipantWe can only speculate, but girls seem to have a distaste for going on a date via public transportation or car service.
flatbusherParticipantThe important take-away from this decision is that even the majority preserved the rights of people who oppose same-sex marriage, so for those who fear this will silence objectors to this type of union will be forced to abandon their beliefs may be unfounded. Of course, that won’t stop people determined to make a federal case out of their perceived discrimination.
flatbusherParticipantThe subject of this thread reminds me of the Yiddish saying I heard when growing up:”De leinger de bord de groiser the ganif.” For those who don’t undertsand yiddish: “The longer the beard the bigger the thief” Anyone else recall that saying?
flatbusherParticipantI think you are missing the point that when dating people prefer it not be a public spectacle whom they are dating. I have heard more than one instance where girls will date from a different location just so neighbors don’t see their dates. Taking public transportation is just that…public. As for the car service, I would agree that it’s nerdy way to do, but don’t compare it to people who care about table settings.
flatbusherParticipantWolf: Apparently because men wearing wedding bands are associated with a more modern element.
mik5: How many known child molesters and wife abusers do you know? Somehow I don’t think they advertise their status and in any case, it probably would be lashon harah to announce it to others, so chances are no one would stop such a person, nor should they. Just because of their actions doesn’t mean they no longer have a chiyuv to daven with a minyan. Check out the prisons.
June 25, 2015 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm in reply to: look for lodging in flatbush for 1 week for family simcha #1088543flatbusherParticipantIf you are looking to stay with a family, this is really not the place to disclose names and other contact information. I suggest you contact someone in the U.S. whom you know to try to make the connection. There may be some public lodgings in Flatbush but I am not aware of them.
June 25, 2015 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm in reply to: A fellow Jew owes me money- what should I do? #1088971flatbusherParticipantI don’t know why you are making an issue. If you don’t need the money, and he said he would pay him back, so let him pay when he can. If you need the money now, tell him you need it now and hope he complies.
flatbusherParticipantI think it may be the girls who would have a negative opinion of a boy who doesn’t drive or doesn’t come by a car. Driving a car is like basic rite of adulthood, and maybe some girls don’t mind, but it seems many girls think it strange when a guy doesn’t drive or come by car. Also in car service as well as public transportation it’s difficult to have a private conversation.
flatbusherParticipantA dress code sign? Hard to imagine a shul would try to keep out anyone who wants to daven. I do remember, however, years ago when I was in a shul as a guest where the rav got up to announce shul policy, including that anyone wearing a ring was invited to daven elsewhere. Haven’t been back there much but I do drop in for mincha from time to time and I have seen people without hats or jackets and wearing shorts, too.
flatbusherParticipantWhere is your bitachon? If Hashem wants us to have eggs, we will have eggs. The flu has resulted in the death of 10% of the chicken population, which is in the tens of millions. Egg prices have skyrocketed but still a good deal given the nutritional value. A dozen eggs in an omelet could feed three or four people for about 50 cents to 75 cents a portion.
flatbusherParticipantChaim Berlin Alumni has a kiddush usually on schedule for SHabbos mervorchim, but for the Shabbos kiddush on a weekly basis, Ruttners on 15th off of J has one, as does Tomashov on I and E. 12-13. As for the quality of the davening, well, they sing, if that is what you mean. For the record, I have davened by both but never stay for the kiddush–My wife goes to the trouble to prepare and I do not want to spoil my appetite.
flatbusherParticipanthakohen: I might agree it started 15 years ago, but I don’t know whether I agree with the reason. I suspect it’s something more like a few people did it, and others followed figuring they were not alone and it must be OK. I am particularly surprised when I see chasidim daven like this, since their normal dress in the summer, seems to be hat and coats.
As for the beat-up fedora and stained jacket, I see an occasional person like this but really I rarely see that.
flatbusherParticipantHmm, is yeshivish style mean singing to any extent? When I have a davened in a yeshiva Friday night, I have not come away with the beauty of the singing. I am not chassidish but prefer to daven in a shtiebl where they sing with great hislavahos, which makes the davening special to me.
flatbusherParticipantBeen in enough places to see this. Not talking about yeshivos.
flatbusherParticipantBeen in enough places to see this. Not talking about yeshivos.
flatbusherParticipantwhat do you mean by chizuk?
flatbusherParticipantI hate to be cynical but it has cross my mind more than once that people invite a lot of guests to generate more gifts. There are a certain number of people who will send a gift even if they don’t people, and there are people who are generous enough to offset the cost of their meal. Then again there are people who don’t give gifts or small gifts.
flatbusherParticipantBeats me why anyone would go to the trouble to resurrect a year-old post. Having said that, however, I have read more than once that a person who is dieting can have a “free day” without negative impact on dieting goals. Everything in moderation, but you can eat what you want.
June 17, 2015 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm in reply to: Pics of Simchas where family specifically request not to share on social media. #1087276flatbusherParticipantWhose psak is that it is 100% pure genaivah? In this day and age, I think people have to have the expectation that pictures taken can end up anywhere, and I don’t know how you can control it other than relying on the integrity of the picture taker to honor your wishes. If people are properly dressed, what exactly the tznius issue involved?
flatbusherParticipantI was citing a specific case. Of course the size of the doesn’t matter. Young couples, and it appears their parents, have no hasaga on what it means to support themselves. I agree with you, and there is no detectable movement to see to it that young couples should be self-sufficient at all.
Daas Yachid: It is precisely thinking like yours that has led to oversized weddings. Anyone who gets insulted over this has some growing up to do, no matter the age. I am sure they will get over the hurt, and if not, and the next time the insulted one doesnt invited the insulter, gamzu l’tovah.
flatbusherParticipantFunny how this thread has transformed into the other thread I started, “Let’s end the wedding madness.” Getting back to the original thread, I recently discussed this issue with a man whose daughter, 19, is getting married to a similarly aged bochur. I asked him how they will support themselves given both come from large families. He started rattling off all the government programs that make it possible. I don’t know,but I think I would be embarrassed if my entire financial support was government handout.
flatbusherParticipantThat sounds like a great idea, especially the way halls seem to empty out after the main course has been consumed anyway. Maybe it will catch on.
flatbusherParticipantI think you should not project your own feelings on to others unless you know how they feel. Have you felt hurt because you were not invited to a sitdown? You can only speak for yourself unless some has told you he felt hurt. I don’t recall hearing anyone telling me directly or indirectly that they were offended for not being invited, and quite honestly, it seems rather petty in the greater scheme of things.
flatbusherParticipantYou;re assuming people’s feelings are hurt. Are you a mindreader? How often has someone expressed to you hurt for not being invited to a sitdown at a wedding?
flatbusherParticipantSo you mean because of the close friends they want, they have to invite everyone else? Seems silly if you think about it.
flatbusherParticipantSounds like a good idea. But who would dare to implement it. Still, I wonder if, aside from seeing someone else apparently invited to sitdown, people really care if they weren’t invited for the seudah.
flatbusherParticipantThere proably is no good way to measure it, but of people who do attend the sit down, how many would be truly offended if they weren’t invited to that part of the event, notwithstanding travel consideration that make attendance for just the chupah or just dancing not worth considering. Anyone on this list reading this offended if not invited for the sitdown?
flatbusherParticipantIf you don’t want it, just say no. You don’t need to give explanations for every decision you make as a parent
flatbusherParticipantJoseph: I am not speaking for myself, but every wedding I go to I hear people making comments to the effect that “I had to come” or observe people whose expressions to me look like boredom. I myself usually go only to chuppahs. I suspect weddings would be a lot smaller if people who attended were actually close to the baalei simchah.
a mamin–care to explain your comment?
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