flatbush27

sjs: many people, not just bochurim drink for other reasons besides the mitzva. if they are not mechalel sheim shamayim then whats the big deal.

oomis: with all due respect, you are not to decide whether a mitzva no longer applies. the mitzva of “chayav inish libisumei etc” definitely is still a mitzva even though you dont like it or feel the yeshiva guys next to you are not performing it correctly.

“The boys think they are very cool when they are drinking, and that is their motivation, not the fulfillment of a mitzvah.” please dont assume that. be dan lekav zchus as we are required to be. the ages 16 to 21 really isnt a big difference when it comes to drinking, except experience. the age 21 doesnt make sense anyway, when everything else is 18.

oomis: when i say drunk, i dont mean stinking drunk as you so kindly called it. i mean drunk. not plastered off your head, not wasted completely, not smashed out of your brains,and i cant think of any other synonyms right now. there is a difference between being drunk and being stinking drunk. you had many valid reasons as to not get stinking drunk but what comes out is that you think its ok to get ‘normal’ drunk as long as you give your car keys to someone else. please correct me if im wrong

dry red wine is the way to drink without getting sick or throwing up. anything else has sugar and thats what gets you sick and makes you puke.

josh31: if to you thats a ban then fine. but why would the Rabbonim ban drunkedness on Purim when its a mitzva? Rabbonim do not ban mitzvas

sjs: how are those 2 statements equateable? the internet causes spiritual harm every single day R”L to Yidden. I never heard a story of a drunk Yid killing someone when he was drunk on Purim. If you feel that people shouldnt get drunk on Purim there are many valid reasons as to why not. Killing people is not one of them

ames. im not sure why you think grown men act like 5 yr olds all yr round. maybe you should get out more or your just a feminist who enjoys putting men down for some odd reason.

sjs: you may be right that it would mutar in asia. i dont know. but i’m talking about frum Yidden in America where it is not the norm.

as for oomis point, even if a woman dresses up in a completely tzniusdiga manner it still draws attention to her which is why i feel women dressing up on Purim is not tzniusdig unless as someone pointed out, she only wears it in her own home with her family and not in the street . when you see a woman dressed up as cowboy it draws attention even if her cowboy costume covers everything its supposed to and is not loud etc

moish. when did i say they do? I dont think its such a big deal for a guy to have an occasional smoke

qwertyuiop: are you a full time learner?

jaymatt: i never said anywhere it is a mitzva to drink by night. i said its ok because the entire Purim you should be misamaech so i dont see a big deal in drinking by night

oomis: i never said drunks didnt cause major accidents etc. but for someone to say you shouldnt get drunk because you may kill someone is ridiculus.

josh31: i dont think any frum yid killed another person when he was drunk on Purim. if your reason you cant get drunk on purim is because you might kill someone thats ridiculus and preposterous.

“Basically you are saying that you think people should get drunk but only if they don’t get drunk… “

noitall: if i wanted to say that, i simply would have said that. please dont put words in my mouth. if you think when all yidden get drunk they act like goyim, unfortunately you are either naieve or just stereotyping frum yidden.

“Anyway, flatbush WHY do u think underage buchurim should drink?? Its ILLEGAL why make a chilul Hashem??? The ones who are underage are the ones who get in trouble….they should NOT be drinking and no one should encourage them to either”

blackcar: i never said they should. i said its ok. and when i said they have to act like yidden that means not making a chillul Hashem. if they will make a chillul Hashem obviously they cant drink.

teen: goyim are no proof. you dont see choshuve rebbeim walking anywhere in jeans

sjs: if you read by posts after the original “hypocrit” post, i said that i thought it was implied that the statement was hypocritical and not GAW as a person because i have no idea who she is. if that wasnt clear then now it should be.

GAW:i apologize to you if you thought it was meant as a personal attack. I should have worded it differently the first time. also, i think monsey lakewood and flatbush (and the entire brooklyn) are definitely IN TOWN and i think most people will agree to that except maybe by lakewood. although baltimore is definitelty OOT.