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Thanks 🙂 Yes I have wished that many times too..
Best of luck to you!
Wow, that could’ve been written by me. My parents told me they don’t really approve of my choices and that I don’t have enough life experience to choose correctly. I don’t know how to tell them that this is my life and I will do what I want and nothing they say will change it. And if they big me about it, it’ll just be worse and probably alienate me even more.
Ohel will never treat you as if you are lazy. They are an amazing organization and will be able to help you in many aspects.
Good luck!
Wow- it’s really hard for someone to admit they need help. And even when they do, they’ve locked up the pain so deep that they’d rather not talk about it.
Welcome back 🙂
Try ohel.
Someone taught me this, and it helped me so much but it’s really hard to do! When a kid is misbehaving or really getting to you, just separate yourself from the situation for a few seconds. Realize they’re not out to get you and there’s a reason they’re acting like this. With that in mind, it is much easier to respond calmly.
Haven’t been to the CR in a couple of days, sorry if my responses are a bit late.
TAOM- The reason we overwhelm friends are age is because we pick the wrong people to talk to. Once you find people going through similar experiences, you will find that they can listen to anything. I found a couple of friends like that, all of whom were from different groups and very different personalities than me, but now we are such close friends. I’d suggest if you don’t have someone older to talk to, find someone close to your age who seems to be going thru something hard too.
OUTORAH- Your advice to embrace someone works if they can overcome their issues. It is never recommended to forgive an abuser and try to come close to them. Normal rules of getting rid of resentment don’t apply here.
Glasses! I was really jealous of everyone who had!
Going to work with my mother.
When my siblings let me play with their Lego as my birthday present.
My older sisters friends- they were big high school girls!
Just read about it Goq. I must say, I’m pretty confused what to think…
And what would someone who really isn’t tamei say? Exact same thing. So you really aren’t proving any point, Veltz.
Many? I wouldn’t be too sure about that..
Streetgeek- I’ve heard it from my dad and brother.
I know what she meant. I’m just saying that at first you need to keep Halacha. Collarbones, knees, elbows. Then you can worry about chumrahs and sensitivities. But sometimes people look at girls as if they’re not so tznius when in reality they are completely following Halacha.
It’ll be quite hard then for you to find a seminary for her. At least in my school, the majority of the girls have internet access.
People can completely follow Halacha and still not dress modestly. There’s nothing assur about that. I had a teacher who always said we need to stop making sensitivities into Halachos. For example, denim, 4 inches past the knee, etc
Yes but if I knew that people knew me here, I’d probably post fewer personal things
I missed all this because I didn’t check the cr in a couple of days. But I’m sorry art of moi that life is so tough! I’m here and I believe in you so much!
I wish there was some way we could really talk- like a private convo with all the teens experiencing emotional issues now… Just saying.
Light switch on top and bottom of the stairs so I never have to walk up in the dark.
This is actually quite funny!!
You obviously don’t understand addiction. If he has an addictive personality (and I’m not necessarily saying he does) then putting a filter won’t help. He’ll find something else. I say this from experience. At what point it was books. Then it was texting. And then it was internet. And unless you address the root problem, it’ll continue.
Well an addiction usually needs rehab/12 step programs/therapy. If they’re willing to do those and are motivated to change there’s a good chance they can get help.
I said she needs help because the typical cynical, chutzpadik child is reacting to stress they’re dealing with.
You’re almost right ikno.
But from the way you wrote that it seems like you’re doing nothing to address the actual problem. You’re threatening, sending to the principal… Why would that help? She’s clearly calling out for help. So get her help! Until you address the root problem you’ll still have problems with her behavior.
Thanks but I meant like where does she live 🙂
How can you be so sure ikno? My class has had teachers who made our lives hell. I can tell you crazy stories from that year.
So let me make sure I understand this. You have a student who is in pain and struggling with yiddishkeit. So you’re giving her speeches. Am I the only one confused as to how this makes sense?
What area?
That’s horrible! I didn’t realize it gives shocks!
Except its illegal. And there’s also Halacha to follow the law of the land.
+1 says me!
Well said writersoul!
You can find free wifi in lots of places. Stores, malls, coach buses, peoples houses…
True dat pba! But once you’re wasting your time you may as well do something you might gain from!
PBA everyone knows those are just time wasters.
Jep, oorah..
Then you weren’t otd, you just hung out with the wrong crowd.
Machon, Bais Yaakov, Machon Basya Rachel are half day. Ateres Naava may also be but not sure.
Israel is not for everyone!! If you don’t feel like it would be right for you, then by all means, stay home. There are half day and night seminaries if you’d like. Having a college degree would definitely help you for your job later one, but you don’t necessarily need to start college right away. As for schools to work in, many schools take assistants straight from high school. If you’d like to be a teacher there are some schools that might take you. The only name I know off-hand is Ahi Ezer but I’m sure there’s many more. Good luck!
Whoops, meant to say I wasn’t talking about him. Sorry!
I was talking about him. But this thread seemed to get hijacked along people in general who are otd. So I continued. And no one is really understanding the points I am trying to make so I’m done. Think what you want, I’m not going to argue anymore.
Well then a lot of people are considered mechalelei shabbos that aren’t. Like people who text on shabbos..
But anyway my point wasn’t how big an aveira it was. I was trying to show how people may do something wrong to keep their sanity.
Jewish source and gaw and everyone else- Well you’ve obviously never experienced depression or anxiety or any other mental illness. And yes sometimes you do have to desecrate shabbos to keep your sanity. Imagine if you’re anxiety was so high at night that you couldn’t walk in the dark. You wouldn’t know, but just try to imagine. It’s not hard then to understand why someone would turn on their flashlight app. Imagine if you couldn’t fall asleep because every noise you heard absolutely petrified you. And music was the only thing that stopped your thoughts from racing. Cuz when you’re left to think too much you end up so depressed and mad and hurt yourself to feel better. Not difficult to understand why someone would put on music on shabbos. I could keep going because I have many more examples. People who say religion is more important than mental health have never had issues with mental health. Because if they had, they would understand.
I will repeat, perhaps where you live it’s like that. But not where I live.
Maybe the frum world you’re in. Cuz where I live it’s not like that.
Jewish source- that’s just something everyone says to make people feel good. And it’s not true. People are put into situations they can’t handle. And not all of them do.
Rebdoniel- I don’t mean to minimize the pain you were caused by others, but what you don’t understand is the intense pain some people feel. Sometimes the hurt is just too bad. And it leads people to hate themselves and everything about the people who hurt them. So if those people are religious it causes then to resent religion. I was taught that there’s a Gemara that says someone who rules his home with an iron hand and the household lives in fear, the children will come to do the three cardinal sins.
Additionally, I think that sometimes if it is a choice between religion or emotional health than your health comes first. Someone who has never experienced this will never understand no matter what anyone says.
Rebdoniel- it is easy for you to say that because you chose this. Now imagine if you hadn’t. If you were born following Torah. And then all the people around you who supposedly keep Torah hurt you (in any way, you can fill in the blank) Now if that were the case, what would you think? That religion must be the best way of life? No, you’d want to be as far from religion as possible. Additionally, if someone hates the situation they are in (ie. their family situation) naturally they will be upset because there is little they can do to change it. That person may think well I wasn’t given a choice in how my life will be. Why does God get to choose how I should run my life. Which, if you think about it is the same as no taxation without representation. So yes, they know what they’re doing is wrong. But the injustice in their life is what leads them to throw away religion. If you can’t understand that, please just keep your mouth shut.
Sorry if this is kind of a mess, hope people understand my point.
Well that’s crazy! Can you really equate the two? I mean just think about it! A murderer and mechalel shabbos are the same???