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enlightenedjewMember
Guys, guys. This is like moths to a flame. The OP was sarcastic
enlightenedjewMemberWait a minute – YWN’s owners are in the clear, b/c they need YWN for… business. But wait, their business consists of leading people astray on the internet. But wait, by leading people astray on the internet, YWN makes money so it’s a business! But wait – what about when your business clashes with the idea that the internet is terrible? But wait – doesnt…
Whew, my head hurts. Cognitive dissonance is painful.
enlightenedjewMemberI have a filter. It’s behind my eyes and between my ears.
enlightenedjewMembertroll
enlightenedjewMemberThe question is so theoretical that it cannot be really answered.
enlightenedjewMemberJetblue acted reasonably, Mr. Handler did not. Case closed, at least for me. Airlines can be accommodating, but they cannot be expected to bend over backwards and juggle their seating assignments just because one guy wants to hold of a chumrah.
enlightenedjewMemberI find it bizarre that we’re less than 4 weeks away from this ‘massive’ gathering, yet not one iota of info was given to the public on how to buy tickets…?
enlightenedjewMemberzahavasdad-
“Gauge”
enlightenedjewMemberYes, if eaten in large portions
enlightenedjewMemberTouche
enlightenedjewMemberNo
enlightenedjewMemberI have a funny feeling this article is satirical…
enlightenedjewMemberIs there an Exodus taking place right now that I’m not aware of…?
enlightenedjewMemberFeif, I agree wholeheartedly. I will be attending the siyum, but this $250K completely wasted on a mechitza really rankles. And Agudah is dealing with, some could say, mamon tzibur, so the “it’s their event they can do as they please” argument loses some of it’s luster.
enlightenedjewMemberEss, mein kindt. Ess.
February 21, 2012 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm in reply to: Memoir called "Unorthodox" and its effect on us #868810enlightenedjewMemberGuys, gals…
Has anyone actually READ this book??
enlightenedjewMemberFrom “The Godfather”.
February 8, 2012 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm in reply to: Memoir called "Unorthodox" and its effect on us #868371enlightenedjewMembermsseeker-
“Feif, how about this:
I DO NOT WANT to be out on the streets at night.
I WANT to ride in the back of the bus.
When there are guests over, I WANT TO eat in the kitchen instead of at the table with my family.
I DO NOT WANT to drive.”
What about those that DON’T want any of this? Is their abrogating these communal norms accepted?
enlightenedjewMemberI don’t get it – how can you condemn a book without reading the work that you are condemning?? I personally find R’ Boteach’s “media showboating” a little nauseating. But I’ve found that, once you get past the screaming headline of a title, he has a lot of positive and VALID things to say. I have read all of his books until now and am in the middle of the one in question here, and I;ve found my observation above to be pretty consistent.
His argument in “Kosher Jesus” is nothing new, BTW.
enlightenedjewMemberskiaddict-
The “evidence” has long been debunked and the producers of that evidence unmasked as frauds.
February 1, 2012 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm in reply to: How much does it cost to support for a year? #853860enlightenedjewMemberToo much for any normal family to bear. Tell him to get a job.
February 1, 2012 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm in reply to: TEARING MY HAIR OUT: Mid-Winter Vacation – VENT HERE #848275enlightenedjewMemberPoor you. You have to take a week off and spend time with the kids.
I’m so tired of this bellyaching when it comes to mid winter, chanuka, etc.
Many of us are in the same boat; it all depends how you approach it.
Deal with it.
enlightenedjewMemberEvolutionary mechanisms (not necessarily Darwinian) are a plausible way of explaining variety in species
enlightenedjewMembercoffee addict-
Bob Kraft is not a goy…
enlightenedjewMemberGavra, I am suggesting, like bpt, that our system evolve. No, parents should not be excluded from the dating process per se. Shadchanim should not either, but should one wish to go outside the “traditional” process, that should be accepted.
I’m suggesting that dating be less a system and more a process, with the most affected parties encouraged to be firmly ensconced in the drivers’ seats.
enlightenedjewMemberGavra-
“If the “admission ticket” to the dating arena means you need to be employable, you can be sure the boys will figure out a way to get in the game.
Gedolim will ban it, Bais Yaakovs will refuse to implement. Sems will teach the exact opposite (they already do). You may as well ask the Yeshivish to become MO.”
This isn’t an MO vs Yeshivish issue – this is an issue of practicality. There should be no “admission ticket” – again, an admission ticket connotes something systemic and, these days, marriage and dating (courtship) need to be moving away from the old systemic method to a more organic one, with the players that REALLY matter (the two daters) mentally and emotionally engaged in the process. People looking to get married need to ultimately decide on their OWN what is important to them and what is not, what they want out of life and what they don’t, who they can live with and who they can’t.
enlightenedjewMemberAs a corollary to my previous post-
We as a community wring our hands with pained expressions at the slowly rising rate of divorce in the religious community.
Perhaps, IN PART, the trend is supported by a communal refusal to modify an anachronistic courtship model to better reflect modern life??
enlightenedjewMemberAZ-
“EJ- Nice Idea! And your suggested method of implementation is…….”
This is exactly the problem, IMHO – your response assumes that a solution to this “crisis”, really cultural in nature, can be achieved by taking out a hammer, wrench and nails, rolling up our collective sleeves, and setting to work, tongue poking from the corner of our mouths…
Courtship and marriage today needs to be natural and organic, because our lives are so much more complex than they were in the past, when “the parsha” was much more systemic in nature. The trials, tribulations, stresses and complexities of daily life are so different than they were two or three generations ago that the “old” model of courtship and marriage may not be as relevant today in the same way, at least outside of most circles.
What I think needs to happen is young people need to be educated, with minimal bias, in understanding what marriage means today and what it entails. They need to empowerment to make their own decisions, in courtship and in married life, without the heavy reliance on others or “vitur hada’as” that can be somewhat prevalent. Girls should be encouraged to get married when they feel they are ready to, not when an arbitrarily imposed schedule compels them. Young people should be encouraged to clearly understand as best they can the pros and cons of various lifestyle choices. They need the freedom to choose a lifestyle on their own based on that understanding, not just conform to a general roadmap that has been long before laid out before them.
enlightenedjewMemberbpt-
Exactly.
AZ, with all due respect, I don’t think you can mechanically engineer your way out of of what is essentially a culturally created “predicament”. To accomplish what you’re setting out to do, I think we’d really have to effect organic change within the community, via cultural memes and norms.
enlightenedjewMemberI don’t get the whole thing – if the “gap” is primarily caused by 18 year old girls jumping into the “parsha” before most boys do (age 20-22?), then why not simply allow or encourage girls to date later???
January 4, 2012 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm in reply to: "Where Are the Men"-Article in last week's Mishpacha #844446enlightenedjewMemberI’m not sure what point he’s trying to make. He says that there’s something missing in women’s education vis a vis tzenius. Then he says you can’t make someone do something by merely teaching them.
Then he says what’s missing is involving men in matters of tzenius by educating them… so that they can teach their daughters.
Sounds a bit circular…
November 23, 2011 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm in reply to: H-a-s-h-e-m H-e-l-p M-e F-i-n-d A S-h-i-d-d-u-c-h-!-! #888452enlightenedjewMembercleverjewishpun, sarcasm…
November 23, 2011 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm in reply to: H-a-s-h-e-m H-e-l-p M-e F-i-n-d A S-h-i-d-d-u-c-h-!-! #888448enlightenedjewMemberDonate to kupat hair. You’ll get a shidduch – guaranteed!
November 17, 2011 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm in reply to: Avenue J subway station defaced. Do you agree with my m.i.l. a"h? #827327enlightenedjewMemberShe is correct.
Tznius is not only about clothing…
enlightenedjewMemberNo.
November 8, 2011 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm in reply to: I can't believe what President Obama and Sarkozy said about Netanyahu!! #824879enlightenedjewMemberEveryone, my comments are aimed at those above who say “oh this is just par for the course for those Jew-hating leaders”. Just because someone is critical of Israeli policies or Israeli leaders doesn’t mean they are unjustified or wrong.
Of COURSE one would like to expect that world leaders maintain the utmost civility between each other, both on and off the record. But I concur with walter sobchsk that this is simply not the case…
enlightenedjewMemberNeed for Speed games are great
SimCity – also awesome, totally different genre though.
enlightenedjewMemberMtydhd, you are absolutely correct.
Girls should be quizzed after yom tov on how well their potato kugel, cholent, and chicken came out. And how well they cleaned and scrubbed and polished the floors, windows, bathrooms and silver.
Shaychus…
November 8, 2011 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm in reply to: I can't believe what President Obama and Sarkozy said about Netanyahu!! #824871enlightenedjewMemberUm, soliek, I think it’s exactly the opposite..
November 8, 2011 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm in reply to: I can't believe what President Obama and Sarkozy said about Netanyahu!! #824870enlightenedjewMemberUh, how do you know that these statements were not completely unjustified??
enlightenedjewMemberWii Sports
November 3, 2011 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #847704enlightenedjewMemberno
enlightenedjewMember“After reading about the project NASI program (which I personally think is deplorable)”
Deplorable is right. Beg, borrow, CHEAT OR STEAL?????
“…What would the 22-year-old young woman do?
Suppose he said that any 30-year-old-girl who donates 11,000, would be married by Chanuka. What would a 30-year-old, young woman do?
You know and I know that every SINGLE young woman would beg, borrow, cheat or steal but she would give Eliyhu Hanavi the money…
enlightenedjewMemberIt’s because of… same gender marriage.
Rockland County is Siberia, as far as I’m concerned
October 6, 2011 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm in reply to: Herman Cain's Comment to Wall Street Protestors #814989enlightenedjewMemberI can’t fully disagree with him, but part of the reason many of us aren’t “rich” is because we’re forking over an ever larger portion of our hard earned $$$ to the govt
October 3, 2011 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm in reply to: source for not buying stuff for a baby before its born needed #813849enlightenedjewMemberWe bought strollers and a car seat because they were on deep discount, some gender-neutral clothing.
Other than that, nothing else, really.
I did as a rav, and he said the general practice is to hold off, unless you find things that are on a great sale and you can save much $$$
enlightenedjewMemberUh, what about when finances require a mother to work?
enlightenedjewMemberMy parents frequently took my siblings and I to the Met museum of art – I had an appreciation for fine art drummed in since youth, and embraced it. I love going to that museum, my wife and I take our toddler there and he loves pointing at the paintings and talking about their contents – “blue birdie!” or “tree!” etc – (he loves the Monet, Renoir, and Breugel paintings especially, for some strange reason).
I believe that done properly, art (artistic forms of expression in general, not just painting) is one possible manifestation of how humans can be “tzelem Elokim” – an artist can almost literally create something from virtually nothing. Beethoven created his 5th from… a jumble of musical notes. Amazing. I don’t think HKBH gave Mozart, Beethoven, Michaelangelo, Donatello, et el these abilities for naught….
enlightenedjewMemberBet you will…
enlightenedjewMembertexting in and of itself isn’t ‘wrong’, an addiction to texting is…
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