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wow, it’ certainly food for thought.
mod, isn’t that essentially what can happen to kids if we lay it on too thick? i wonder, b/c when i was a kid, an adult told me one tisha b’av that if i really daven hard enough and i’m nice to the other kids, mashciach will come on tisha b’av. i guess he didn’t mean that year, cuz i’m still waiting…
myfriend said exactly what i meant, just better. thank you my friend… 😉
i believe that’s a different story. that touching is only to show in a concrete manner that they are now for each other and no one else. in a picture however, that is not necessary anymore and may be improper as well.
that wasn’t what i was talking about when i mentioned poses however. but i don’t want to go into it. all i say is that i didn’t mean regular picture type contact.
squeak – lol! you almost had me there for a second, before i went on to the part where you explained yourself…
btw, totally unrelated, but how do you guys put subtitles under your username? i can’t figure it out!
no they actually invented it yerushalayim. around the same time that they took the word gullible out of the dictionary…
*who are you talking about*
whoops – before i edited my comment, i had said “my teacher said….” and then i forgot about that, so that’s who i was talking about.
but i don’t think it’s a separate issue. i meant it could be what he meant, that it’s a problem to have the picture up on the wall.
(and i also meant chukas hagoyim, not minhag hagoyim. it was very late. 🙂
happiness…
but seriously,
YERUSHALAYIM (the place to live…)
and i have to agree with speaktruth!
i did learn that it’s minhag hagoyim to have the wedding pictures out on the wall.
i wonder if she really meant that if there’s a pose that shouldn’t be seen by anyone, that’s the problem.
i don’t think i should go farther than this.
i don’t think that’s medically possible.
when i was in seminary in e”y, they took us to the daughters of different gedolim from the past generation, and one of them told us that her father used to do crosswords from the newspaper in places where we can’t read other material.i guess it just depends which newspaper you’re talking about.
also, gedolim probably don’t read these books because that’s bittul Torah, which is a totally different issue than yiras shamayim.
my parents got married at 17/23, legally. so i imagine it was probably legal, what wolf did. there are many minor kallahs, especially in the aforementioned ‘ultra-frum’ group…
just to set one thing straight – it’s not only the chaddishe velt, it’s also the ‘ultra-yeshivish,’ especially in eretz yisrael. i’m not chassidish but in my circles, three is the norm.
there are many cases of divorce that are completely justified, such as clinical abuse.
however, there are such cases, even of clinical abuse, where the couple dealt with it together with a therapist, and are still happily married, and the children are fully relieved that the intended divorce did not happen. i was there, i witnessed the entire thing; the kids, although ablsolutely terrified when the parents fought physically, *begged* their mother to please not allow a divorce.
divorce should be a dirty word in the jewish home, but only as long as it’s theoretical. meaning, the education should be that marriage is forever, etc, etc. but when there is a case of divorce in the community, the community has to be supportive of all the victims, and not vindicitive in any way.
then who are you to speak for them? (emoticon613’s roomate)
thank you mosherose! i’ll have to second that.
hereorthere – besides what shraga said, they are some people who just can’t sit and read midrashim. i personally have problem with the lashon hakodesh, and the english translations i’ve found with the exeption of a few aren’t that great unfortunately – if a/o knows of any good ones, tell me!
sjs – what did she write?
dr. pepper – lol!!
the coming revolution by zamir cohen is not a novel, it’s a science book, but it’s amazing! first of all you CANNOT tell it’s translated. second, it brings in meforshim that prove that we already knew what science is telling us today, while reminding the reader that torah came first and science doesn’t prove it; it proves science. it’s a reallllly good book!
sender=alexander=alex
he’s good.
more later iy”H
dr pepper – samson’s lion is aleph shin for the secular reader and it’s under the pseudonym alex wolf – get it? it’s great actually, that book, just a little less…sheltered. like the theological discussions are expanded upon and there’s some stronger language in there.
meir uri gottesman’s books are amazing!!!
nachman seltzer’s books are pretty good, good plot, good writing style, a little fantastic (as in fantasy) in my opinion.
ananowriter – THE POMEGRANATE PENDANT IS THE BEST!! i’d forgotten about it, but it’s sooo realistic, true to the people and to the times, and the writing style is stunning!
still thinking…
it’s not quite deja vu [two words ;)], although i get that too. it’s a sensation (some might call it an aura i think) that something specific will happen and then it does.
simple example: i was in camp and we went to the laundromat to do our laundry. as i was coming down from the bus, i had this ‘vision’ that the place is going to flood – and about halfway thru our trip, one of the machines started to back up, sending water all over the floor of the laudromat, pretty deep water!! it was sorta creepy.
it sounds unreal, like i’m making it up. i think that’s because of the wording, but i honestly have no idea how to describe it accurately.
they are, and he’s amazing!!!! not stam! i also get very nervous from a lot of frum writing which made it very hard to stop reading non jewish books – but alef shin, ten lost, and every man a slave are fantastic!!
also, sun inside rain – by m. (no first name) bassarah is amazing! one of my favorite books.
heir to the throne by rothstein is terrific also.
i know this sounds quite like nonsense, but in my circles, where it’s common for someone to get engaged after only three or four meetings, until very recently (more recently than in other circles), there was a much lower percentage of divorces/broken engagements. i think that the increase is actually due to increasingly immature people and the influence leaking into our insular commmunities.
actually, twice i’ve had dreams that people i knew died and they both died within a week of the dream. very scary.
i’m a dreamer.
but this is interesting – sometimes, i’ll be awake, and i’ll have a sensation that a specific odd something will happen, like, i see a picture of it in my brain, and then it happens. anyone know what that’s all about?
be’sha’a she’melech ha’mashiach ba (x2)
oy yoy yoy yoy
oimed al gag, gag beis hamikdash –
mashmia le’yisrael v’oimer:
anovim, anovim,
higiyah zman, higiyah zman geulaschem,
v’im ein atem ma’aminim, (x2)
re’u be’oiri sh’zoirayah.
postsemgirl, i think it’s amar leib bar hey hey, not lay.
anyone actually know the words to ahallel, amallel?
this is the first time i ever knew the words to that song!!!!! i’m so excited!!!!!!
One fine Shabbos morning, one bee says to the other, “i’m really hungry.”
to which the other replied, “Schwartz down the block is having a kiddush, go check it out.” so the first bee flies off down the block.
Half hour later, he comes back licking his lips. “Thanks buddy, that was a really great idea.”
the other bee looks at him funny and asks, “Yo, what’s on your head – a kippa??”
the first bee retorts –
“i didn’t want anyone mistaking me for a WASP.”
what about israel?
i don’t understand what’s going on here…