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Once again cherybim gets caught red-faced.
torahis1:
Maybe after you stop bashing Chareidim for one thing after another you can have a voice. As every long time reader here knows, once your screen name appears an attack upon Torah Judaism is sure to follow.
THAT is sinas chinam and an utter chillul hashem.
If someone lies and speaks loshon hora about klal yisroel, its obligatory to call them out.
Mariner:
I was just browsing through your comments on this subject, and others, and you come across clumsily as a klutz. Unless, in the unlikely event, you actually have something intelligent to say please spare us the drivel.
mariner:
Can you repeat all that in English for the rest of us? Most of us here aren’t familiar with Ebonics.
Farf Un: No, just don’t make lies about people based on false stories in the zionist media about the Vaad Hatznius (even if it was republished in so-called Orthodox sites). And then don’t go demanding that everyone get on their knees and plead for your forgiveness for calling you what you are, prior to you getting on your fours and begging those tzadikim and groups of people you slandered and falsely maligned with your loshon hora and rechilus for their mechila.
I know of a heter factory that can find all sorts of heterim for all that need.
Shatnez? No problem!
Pritzus? Bon voyage!
Feif Un: YOU are a thug who runs around knocking people. Halevi you should have 1/100th the zchusim of the Vaad Hatznius!
torahis1: You like-minded reformers surely agree with you, but have no influence on the Torah community.
iilini07: Guess what? WE THE PEOPLE faithfull, happily, and confidently give the “the power and control” to our leaders. You may not like it, but we the people live it.
cherry, i’ve noticed you engage in very questionable behavior. i would be very wary of your presence.
anon for this, I already did. Your assumption is bad. See my 2nd post of this page.
notorah (aka lesschumras): I don’t. Calling out a rasha doesn’t make one the representative of Klal Yisroel, but merely its servant.
willi, Don’t take it too far. I C’V wouldn’t call them reshayim. But its important to call out those that post ideas that are in contradiction with the Torah, despite their coaching their ugly words in Judaism.
Thinking – This is why there is a special thread in the Coffee Room regarding the pro-freikeit commentors. No one should think they represent Klal Yisroel. We must call them out.
Thanks for the maar hamokom.
dontjustfollow,
Your humble opinion (“IMHO”) is just that and nothing more. The Rabbonim, who are far wiser than you, have constantly and consistently bemoaned the appalling lack of tzinius and taken steps to correct it.
P.S. The Rabbonim are [gasp] men.
P.P.S. Tzinius is a halacha from the Torah and thus a “universal issue.” Halachically we are OBLIGATED to advise someone if they are violating ANY halacha if there is even a small possibility they will correct it. This obligation includes a man seeing a woman violating a halacha like tzinius. The only time one is exempt is if they are absolutely certain the tzinius violator will refuse to shape up and follow halacha.
And DONTJUSTFOLLOW – I highly recommend you start “reaching higher” by “looking within”, not outside at people who may or may not be eating pork or violating Shabbos. THAT, ma’am, is THEIR issue.
YOUR issue is, controlling YOUR eyes, mind & heart – as you encounter people doing things in a way that may cause you to sin – jewish or non-jewish.
Get it? KASHRUS & SHMIRAS SHABBOS – (in the sense that you’ve been going on and on and on about) is OTHER’S issue. NOT SINNING thoughts-wise, doing-wise or otherwise – THAT IS WHAT YOU need to concern yourself with (surrounding this issue.)
If YOUR PEOPLE don’t eat kosher or keep Shabbos – spouse, children – then you may have some power to influence them.
But to think of taking this topic to a public forum – which isn’t anymore your domain (opportunity to influence) – is ANTI-KOSHER & ANTI-SHABBOS.
I find it disgusting actually. And I suspect other decent men and women on this forum feel similarly.
GO GROW YOURSELF. Don’t be so busy “helping others grow in Shmiras Shabbos”.
somebody,
Your “insecurities” by dressing to impress, aside from doing an aveira yourself, causes men who see you to do an aveira. So you are doubly chayiv.
I am always very impressed with how most Chasidim maintain tznius so beautifully. They are impeccably dressed, so tastefully, yet with such tznius.