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Would this bother you if it was a Supreme Court Justice who supports the slaughter of unborn babies or the type of relationship that the Torah refers to as an abomination?
We have a president who spent his career with one goal in mind- to enrich himself to the extreme detriment to the country yet you’re still going to vote for him over the person who enriched the country at his own personal expense. (I know, January 6th blah, blah blah…)
In the past I brought up to you my concern with nominating a judge to the highest court based on her gender (even though she couldn’t define what a woman is) even though many of her earlier rulings were overturned (something that can’t be done with a Supreme Court ruling). Back in March of 22 you said that we can have a separate discussion (See Page 2 of the “So you voted for Biden” thread).
Now that you’re bringing up the Supreme Court- let’s discuss this:
Why are you ok with nominating a judge based on her skin color and being a woman, despite her not being able to define what a woman is- especially someone who already showed that she’s not an expert in the law?
Look back at history- in 1979 the Iranians took over the US Embassy and held 50+ hostages for over a year. Carter couldn’t do a thing, he was too weak. What happed on the day President Reagan became president? How long was it until the hostages were released once a strong president was in office?
History repeats itself over and over again and everyone sees that except for those who purposely don’t want to.
The despots can smell a weak US President from halfway around the world. Why do you think none of this went on when President Trump was in office?
Who are you going to vote for? The weak president who allowed all this to go in under his watch or the strong president who had the despots all over the world shaking in fear?
If Democrats can’t be fooled how did 81,000,000 vote for Biden?
@ ☕️coffee addict
It was supposed to be a play on words referencing a post from @ jackk where he stated “The only dead party is the republican who had no platform at their convention.”
(Check out the “Future Speaker of the House AOC?” thread.)
I enjoy throwing hypocricy back at libs, leftits, laszlos…
That’s because they don’t break the law (or show up as emotional support for those that do).
But to answer the OP-
I didn’t notice what you’re referring to but if I had to guess it’s because Republicans have a platform to stand on and Democrats have nothing to go on except to say that they’re not Republicans.
You seemed pretty bitter right from the start when Elon Musk announced that he was buying Twitter.
Like it or not- Twitter employees used unfair practices to sway an election (by suppressing negative, albeit absolutely true, stories about the Bidens). I understand your disappointment that they won’t have that weapon in their arsenal this time around.
Twitter gave President Trump a permanent ban while allowing despots from around the world to continue their hateful and threatening rhetoric.
I highly doubt Mr. Musk purchased Twitter with the intent of making money off of it. He most probably purchased it with the intent of removing a cyber bully- at an enormous cost to himself- and making the world a better place.
I read somewhere that while he was president, Mr. Trump made the country more prosperous at a great personal expense while as president Biden made himself more prosperous at a great expense to the country.
We need more selfless people like President Trump and Mr. Musk to be involved in running this country than Biden and Obama.
While on the topic of Mr. Musk- you had previously claimed that he paid no taxes in 2022 but according to CNN (hardly a Conservative mouthpiece) he paid $11,000,000,000 in taxes. I asked for your source in the past but you ignored the post. Can you either provide the source or come clean about making it up/ lying?
Would Bragg have gone after Biden with the same vigor that he went after President Trump?
The Americans that feel the same way are mostly in one of the following categories:
1. Those that are fully capable of being makers but would rather be takers,
2. People who support the slaughter of unborn babies,
3. Graduates who took out student loans to get a degree in gender studies (or the likes) and now feel that the taxpayers should be responsible,
4. Shoplifters, carjackers, murderers, terrorists…
5. Perverts who want an excuse to be in the girls locker room,
6. Those who so naive that they believe everything in the liberal media without thinking for themselves.
I’ve asked you and other leftists / libs / laszlos on here to name a single thing that is better for a hardworking American who takes responsibility for himself and wants his family to be safe but I never got a single valid response. (Although I could name lots of things that are worse off.)
The entitlements that the Democrats give out pale in comparison to the suffering that the hostages and their families are going through. It’s way past the time to vote out the person who enabled the war to begin and vote in the person who didn’t have any wars start under his watch.
I’m not going to waste too much time on my day off to fully respond to some ridiculous post that you copied and pasted from somewhere else since leftists, libs, laszlos and the like tend to ignore it when they feel cornered- but how can you give so much credit to an old senile pervert who can’t even find his way off a stage after reading everything off of a teleprompter (including the directions)?
The reason why the stock market is going up now is because investors realize that Biden has such a low chance of being re-elected that they’re jump staring their investments- I find it hilarious that you’re giving Biden the credit!
It’s sickening that you give him credit for the “tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of armaments” while ignoring that it was his stupidity that enabled the war to begin in the first place yet you don’t give President Trump and credit for having no wars start under his watch.
I asked you this in another thread but as a leftist / lib / laszlo you ignored it. I’m going to ask it again though.
Would you rather have the thousand + innocent lives that were taken אל קדוש השם or the “tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of armaments”?
There were some serious statistical abnormalities in the 2020 elections that the citizens of the US deserved to have investigated and explained. As the president of The United States at the time I expected President Trump to stand up for the country and get some answers.
It’s time that you set your personal agenda aside and think about the 100+ Jewish hostages as well as the thousands of Yidden who are putting themselves in danger to protect ארץ ישראל. You’re transgressing לא תעמוד על דם ריעך by voting for Biden.
Take out a history book and look what happened in the Middle East back in 1979. The US had by far the worst and weakest president ever in the White House (albeit he got bumped into third place by now) and what did he do during the Iranian Revolution? There were 50+ US hostages held for over 440 days. Carters indifference (or inability to do anything) is the reason why close to 50 years later Iran is still one of the biggest threats to world peace.
What happened the very day that President Reagan was sworn in and there was a tough leader in the White House that the terrorists were afraid of?
When Iran threatened Israel and Biden got up and said the longest word / sentence / paragraph he could remember without the help of a teleprompter (four letters plus an apostrophe)- what happened? The world laughed at him and Iran fired over 300 weapons towards Israel.
Do you think that Hamas doesn’t notice Bidens weakness and animosity towards Israel? Notice how they keep upping the ante for a prisoner exchange every time he stabs Israel in the back.
Do you think they’d have the same brazenness if the same president who brought Iran to the brink of collapse and left other despots shaking was back in the White House?
It’s time to “get over it” and vote for President Trump, the best and strongest president the country has ever had as well as the president who’s done the most for Yidden.
I’m not telling you to “get over it” as an excuse to vote for the only person who can even begin to undo all the damage done by Biden and Obama- there’s no need to excuse that. I’m telling you that because using “Jan 6th” as an excuse for everything in life isn’t going to get you anywhere.
You can accuse me of being in a cult (I am a proud Orthodox Jew) to get out of responding. But keep in mind that one day (hopefully many, many years from now) you’re going to be standing in front of the מלך מלכי המלכים (the leader of my cult) and you’re going to have to answer so difficult questions. You won’t be able to ignore the questions, השם will know when you’re lying and “because of Jan 6th” will not be an acceptable answer to a single question.
@ ☕️coffee addict
Of course you need to be דן לכף זכות in the first two cases, I was referring to a situation where, let’s say, you informed the person that he shouldn’t be driving on Shabbos and he answered that he knows it’s Shabbos but he only keeps Shabbos in it house. Would you eat in his house?
Similarly, if you explained to someone who’s supposedly שומר שבת that he shouldn’t be eating in McDonalds and he answers that he’s only chewing but not swallowing- would you still call him Frum?
Finally, in the last case I’m referring to someone who knows what the party represents and that they are diametrically opposed to השם and the תורה but justifies voting Democrat because he’s socially liberal but fiscally conservative- do you think such a person should be called to the תורה in a Frum Shul?
Thanks for cracking me up again.
You only find it terribly offensive because it’s true. (Which is why I laughed out loud instead of being offended when you accused me of being part of a cult 😂.)
I try to read all your posts as they bring a smile to my face and I can’t say for certain that you didn’t say anything supportive of the Pro – Palestinian protesters although I can say that I didn’t come across any.
But, you and the Pro – Palestinian protestors ferociously defend a political party that is extremely anti-Semitic.
What have Biden and the Democrats delivered since he took office? Sky high inflation? Sky high gas prices? Some wars where there was relative peace under President Trump? How many illegal immigrants? (Do I need to keep on going?)
Just curious- did you step out for Shevii this past שבת?
@ 5TResident
There’s lots to discuss over here and this forum might not be the best place, but there is something I’m going to point out.
Two of my grandparents are Auschwitz survivors and lost lots of relatives there (B”H they spared me from hearing the horrors of what went on there until I got older).
While we’ll never know what Hashem’s plans were back then we can look back now. From those that went to E”Y (or the US) ten years earlier, barely any of them are still religious. B”H my grandparents have dozens upon dozens of descendants- all Frum.
As a side point- every so often I take a look back ten years at my personal life and think of some of the nisyanos I had back then (which I couldn’t fathom how it was for the best) and fast forward ten years and it all worked out for the best.
I’m not sure what you’re stuck on. Just because someone dresses a certain way and calls themselves Frum- doesn’t mean that they’re Frum.
If you see a guy with a hat and jacket driving to shul on Shabbos- would you call him Frum? Would you eat in his house.
If you see a supposedly Shomer Shabbos guy in McDonalds eating a Happy Meal- would you call him Frum?
If you found out that a kollel yungerman is “married” to a male- would you let him learn with your kids?
If you found out that a supposedly Frum neighbor (with long payos and everything) identifies as a female and hangs out in girls locker rooms – would you let your kids into his house to play with his kids?
If you found out that someone in your shul votes Democrat- would you still let him have kibbudim?
So, just because someone dresses a certain way, acts a certain way and claims to be Frum- it doesn’t make them a שומר תורה ומצות.
I’m not sure why you’re surprised by the way they act.
@lakewhut
From the Democrats / Leftists / Liberals that I came across on this site I created a list of groups that they can fall into (although some may fall into more than one):
1. Those that were voting Democrat for 50+ years and are in denial that their beloved party fell off the deep end.
2. Those that are willing to throw Hashem and the Torah under the bus for a couple of extra $$$ so they don’t need to work.
3. Those that don’t think for themselves and
4. Those that are only claiming to be a Democrat / Leftist / Liberal and post ridiculous stuff to make the party look bad.
Calling Bidens Foreign Policy “very successful” is simply a lie (and extremely offensive to anyone who lost loved ones in the wars he allowed to happen). The only Americans that support it are those that hate America and / or are totally clueless. (I’ll let you decide which category you’re in.)
President Trumps Foreign Policy was a smashing success. The US was a feared country and there were no new wars while he was in office. The despots stayed peaceful and anxiously awaited for a Democratic president to restart their rabble rousing.
I can’t say that I knew what he was doing at the time he was cozying up with Putin or the despot from North Korea but in hindsight it was a brilliant move from unarguably the most successful president ever. His IQ is sky high and light years ahead of mine but if that’s what it takes to keep the world peaceful then so be it.
@CTLAWER
I noticed your carefully chosen words and purposely took the bait… to point out the following. This isn’t a court of law where you can get off on a technicality based upon clever wording. Your intent was to be offensive so as far as I’m concerned it wasn’t a false accusation. Even if you didn’t call me that per se- you implied it. Would you have used the same language to a judge while representing a client?
I don’t believe I ever wrote that you or anyone else in the Coffee Room “owes” me a response- if you want to reply you can reply if you don’t want to reply then you don’t have to, if you want to give dodgy responses- that’s within your rights as well. But if I can’t have a normal conversation then I’m not going to continue the conversation. I try to respond to as many posts directed to me as possible, I was merely trying to be courteous in explaining why I’m done having discussions with you.
Had you ignored my post back in September I would have been דן לכף זכות that you never saw it. But you did respond and dodged the questions I had.
Check out your final response to me in the “Biden or Trump” discussion. In an earlier post I mentioned that my healthcare expenses went up by more than 400% and you wrote that you don’t agree with me on the ACA (I don’t believe I wrote anything else about the ACA in that discussion). You admitted that you have no knowledge of costs under the ACA except in CT but you still haven’t answered the reason why you disagree with me.
In the same thread I asked for a single accomplishment Biden has done in his 50 years in politics and you mentioned the $35 cap on insulin. When I pressed you to mention something that benefits more than 1% of the population- all of the sudden you’re not here to defend the president.
Finally- I asked you a simple multiple choice question with four possible scenarios to get your train of thought but it didn’t jive with your agenda so you added a fifth scenario.
Anyway- wishing you a חג כשר ושמח as well.
In a typical liberal hypocrisy you tell me not stop the name calling but then call me a five year old. 😂
Anyway- I gave up discussing things with you back in September after you refused to give straight answers to a number of direct questions I posed to you. I have no interest in having those kinds of conversations so I’m not going to respond to the rest of your post.
But I agree that it’s beneath the dignity of a בן תורה to stoop to the level of a Liberal and will בלי נדר not use that adjective again.
Do you really think that any of these Loony Libs would ever vote Republican- even to vote against FDR in WWII and save precious Yidden?
If Hitler was running as a Democrat against President Trump they’d still vote Democrat. (And justify it with “Jan 6th”.)
I don’t know what goes on in the next world but a generation ago I would have agreed with you.
It’s kind of black and white nowadays. Even if politics aren’t directly discussed I can’t imagine that someone who purposely throws השם and the Torah under the bus for their own financial benefit won’t have to answer for it.
You blame it on President Trump since he was president at the time but you neglected to mention that it was released by Bidens friends (probably purposely to hurt his chances of getting re-elected).
Go back and take a look at how Obama/Biden handled H1N1 (Swine Flu), luckily the virus wasn’t as contagious or deadly as Covid but can you imagine how many more Americans would have died? (And you would have found a way to blame it on President Trump 😂.)
The way you Loony Libs state that there were too many failures to list a single one is hilarious. You still haven’t been able to list a single way that a hard working taxpayer like myself had it better under Biden than President Trump.
I was also cracking up when Harris said that if President Trump wins the election it could be the last election without providing any explanation. (Is he going to have his DOJ file dozens of ridiculous indictments against his political foes?)
I haven’t either spoken to Rav Miller Zt”l recently but if he was so against Democrats before Obama pushed them so far to the left I’m confident that he would continue advocating for voting against them. (How much more so after Biden led them off the deep end.)
Hopefully you’ll do תשובה before you reach 120 but if you ח״ו don’t how are you going to explain to השם how you ferociously defended a political party that encourages a relationship that the Torah calls an abomination? Are you going to say “Because of Jan 6th”?
How are you going to explain how you ferociously defended a political party that encourages the slaughter of innocent unborn children so that the mother can go get drunk with her friends and not have to find a babysitter? “Uh, השם- it was because of Jan 6th”?
You may fool some other Loony Libs but השם knows the real reason why you’re throwing Him and the Torah under the bus.
Please think carefully and do תשובה before it’s too late. Keep in mind that the more people here you corrupt the longer it’ll take to fix the damage you created.
When President Trump was in office this never happened. Putin was afraid of him and didn’t try to test his limits.
The despot from North Korea tested President Trump and I was terrified when he didn’t back down, luckily President Trump knew what he was doing and didn’t back down until ultimately Kim Jon Un did.
Ask anyone who ר״ל lost a relative since October 7th if they’d rather have the money, support and “much, much more” from Biden or their loved ones and I guarantee you that you won’t find a single person who would rather have what Biden have them.
Our enemies can sense a weak president from thousands of miles away. Look what happened under Carter (the worst president for decades until Obama), Iran became a worldwide threat that hasn’t subsided. For over a year the Iranians refused to release the hostages taken from the US Embassy. How long did it take President Reagan to get them released after taking office?
Now that Biden is in office (and Carter got pushed down to third place in rank of worst presidents) the Iranians sensed again that the US has a weak president and started testing their limits. They see that Biden didn’t cut off their money flow and isn’t punishing them for what they did- do you honestly think that they learned their lesson?
Don’t think for a second that Biden cares at all about Jews- he only cares about getting re-elected. If he felt that he had a better chance of getting re-elected by not doing anything- he wouldn’t have done anything.
Now imagine if Israel would have gone on a full offensive and blew up some oil refineries in Iran- the cost of gas would have gone up even higher than it already went up under his term and the chances of him losing to President Trump would have gone up even higher than they already are.
Thanks- now I need to figure out how to apply it.
Yes, absolutely tirelessly.
President Trump is a workaholic and absolute genius whose IQ is light years ahead of mine. I can’t answer for everything thing that he does but his success proves it.
He knows what he’s doing and what it takes to get it done. Why does it bother you if he golfs, tweets or watches TV between successes?
I explained this to you in a post back in late March.
The best way to manage a company is to line up future income with future expenses and not keep too much cash on hand. The better this can be done, the less cash needed to be kept on hand. Given the genius level IQ of President Trump (and the brilliant people he surrounds himself with) the in and out cash flows were probably very well aligned.
If President Trump had all the future assets and liabilities lined up and then was forced to sell a huge piece of real estate (really fast and at a huge loss) he’d lose out on the future income to pay the future liabilities.
If the AG and judge weren’t so blatantly biased against him they may have just allowed him to post the title to one of his buildings (worth considerably more than the bond) but they were trying to do irreversible damage to him and his company and insisted on cash.
Do you know when else his enormous wealth dropped significantly?
The four years that he worked tirelessly for every single citizen to make the world a better place.
By contrast- how much did Bidens wealth grow by while in the White House (while many millions of people are struggling to keep a roof over their head and put food on their table)?
Where did that money come from?
To claim that the price of gas was low due to the pandemic without mentioning that it had already dropped significantly before the pandemic and only dropped slightly once the pandemic started is simply a lie. Similarly, to not mention that the price of gas shot up significantly after Biden signed the executive order, is a lie as well.
I try not to waste my time with posters who lie, dodge questions, give vague responses or don’t respond at all (although I do make an exception for one poster since he cracks me up).
If you want to discuss aid to Israel and Ukraine as well as IVF you can go ahead and fix the post about gas prices and post the details you purposely left out from the other topics.
You crack me up 😂!
You’re the one who asked for evidence in order to believe that someone currently sitting in jail for shoplifting can’t continue shoplifting while in jail and you accuse me of being in a cult.
Well, I guess that’s one way to end a discussion where you helplessly blocked yourself into a corner.
I’m not sure where you copied and pasted that list from but can you point to a single one that helps out the millions of hard working families (that don’t own a business) that make too much to be eligible for handouts but not enough to be unaffected by the skyrocketing prices of just about everything?
Inflation Reduction Act? You’ve gotta be kidding me! How much was a gallon of gas when President Trump was in office? How much more is the typical weekly grocery shopping for a family now than when President Trump was in office? And then you mention that not a single Republican voted for it? Why should they have- did prices for anything go back down to the Pre-biden days? How much has the deficit gone down since then?
Support for Ukraine and Israel??? It would be laughable if there weren’t thousands of innocent people that lost their lives. None of this went on when President Trump was in office. You’re going to give him credit for sending arms to fight a war that he shouldn’t have allowed to start in the first place (and leave out that he’s still allowing huge amounts of money to flow to Iran)?
What have Republicans done in the last year?
For starters they showed the world (at least the ones not tuned in the Fake News all day long) that despite the Democrats complaining about hard working people not paying their “fair share”- the president’s son doesn’t have to and they’re not going to do anything about it. They showed the world that Biden sold out the country while he and his family raked in tens of millions of Dollars in multiple accounts without any legitimate business source (and they probably didn’t pay their “fair share” for that either). They showed the world that they can scream gun control all day long but when the president’s crack head son lies on his gun application and the gun ends up in the garbage- they’re not going to do anything about it.
But why only the last year when they barely had enough power to do anything- go back to the first three years of President Trump’s presidency (before bidens friends released the virus). Record low gas prices, DJIA hitting new milestones on a daily basis, record low unemployment, 401(k) accounts making unimaginable gains…
Oh- and thanks for telling me that he was trying to say “possibilities”, in a million years I never would have guessed it.
You can say that the slurring of an old and senile pervert is entertaining- that’s fine with me. What you neglected to address is that his actions (unlike President Trumps actions) are detrimental to those who want to work and live a peaceful life.
Can you name a single thing Biden did that benefited hard working Americans?
It seems like the first part of your post got cut off. It also seems like you copied and pasted the information from PolitiFact. Can you direct me to a place that has the entire video? I’ve been wondering for years what he was trying to say.
Search on YouTube for “America is a nation that can be defined in a single word….” and then tell me honestly if you feel safe with that guy having the nuclear codes.
I don’t take President Trumps rants and raves seriously- but I do find them entertaining. What I do take seriously are his actions which made the world a better place for every single person who wanted peace and was willing to work for a living.
Is the world a better place under Biden for those that want peace and work hard for a living? If so, please explain how.
I’m not surprised that he can’t come up with the money and here’s why.
According to Hillary Clinton in a debate with Donald Trump back in 2016 she claimed that he started his business with a $14,000,000 loan from his late father. He didn’t become a multi-billionaire (at a time when there were very few billionaires on the planet) by putting the money into as savings account and earning interest- he used his genius level IQ and real estate brilliance to hire the best people, build the best buildings and re-invest the profits into new ventures.
A healthy company looking to grow will have teams that predict future income, project future expenses and another team that lines up investments so that the future income and future expenses line up while coming up with methods to mitigate unfavorable outcomes. The closer these companies can come to aligning the cash flows, the less cash they need to keep on hand. Selling off those investments much earlier than anticipated usually results in massive losses.
Given the efficiency at how his company runs I’d be very shocked if he had that much cash just sitting around. In a typical environment, if a huge company run by a well known and proven leader needed that much cash other companies would be running to lend money for a bond but here, they’re afraid of the attorney general going after them as well.
I don’t plan on donating to his legal fees though, for two reasons:
1. This may sound selfish on my part but I think that if his buildings do get seized, he’d have a better chance and getting reelected, undoing some of the damage that Biden and Obama have done to the country and bringing peace back to the world while saving countless lives. (Hopefully some of the loony Libs will realize that Democrats are the threat to democracy and vote them out.)
2. When I bought my previous house in NY, I paid between $30,000 and $50,000 more than it was worth- I don’t want to do anything that will make her come after me next.
Please join me and all other Frum Yidden who love Hashem, the Torah and basic human morals more than the few Dollars the Democrats give you not to work and vote for President Donald Trump in November.
There were four posters who contacted me through the decrypted message, two I was able to validate (Squeak being one of them) and two refused to validate themselves (by posting a message I asked them to post in the screen name they claimed to be). I assumed that one (or possibly both) of the supposed screen names is (are) yours.
Squeak is pretty confident that you didn’t decrypt the messages. Letting me know the product of those three numbers would have proven me correct.
Contacting me at an email address you’ve contacted me at in the past proves nothing as I know that you have it already. I don’t plan to challenge you to a game of chess and I’m going to assume that Squeak doesn’t either. If it makes you happy I can ask him directly.
As far as the mess I created- don’t fret, I’m going to climb back under my rock. I may swing by a couple of times over the next few days to respond to any follow up questions but that’ll probably be it.
I can’t answer that. I just gave him a heads up that you’re going to be waiting for him and he said that he’s not going to be here. (And resigning from what- the Coffee Room or the game of chess?)
He’s also suspicious about you having the email address from the coded post. To prove that you cracked the code would you be able to provide the product of the first digit of the public key used to encrypt the message, the first digit of the private key used to decrypt the message and the number corresponding to the first letter of the email address in the message.
Given that I’ve retired from the Coffee Room again I will not be taking his place.
(I came back to let @ujm know not to waste his night waiting around for Squeak but I have no intention of hanging around.)
I gave Squeak a heads up that you’re going to be looking forward to continuing your game of chess but he said that he wasn’t planning on participating.
Sorry
55 years ago, the Democrats were a totally different party. The worked to get man on the moon, nowadays they worked to get man into the ladies locker-room (not sure whose line that is but it sums up how far off the deep end they fell). President Kennedy famously said “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. If he was president nowadays, he’d be considered a Republican.
To me it’s no surprise that you want to abolish the Electoral College. When I first learned of it, I also thought it was unfair- until I learned why it was established. There have been a handful of times that the Republicans won the Electoral College but lost the popular vote. I don’t believe it ever happened in the other direction.
The Founding Fathers were brilliant in how they set up the Constitution. Without the Electoral College, candidates would only have to campaign in the largest cities and can ignore entire states like Wyoming. (Take the three largest cities in the US- New York, Los Angeles and Chicago- is the cumulative population larger than the amount that President Biden won the popular vote by?)
By having a vote in Wyoming carry a disproportionate amount of weight- candidates are forced to campaign in small states as well and not neglect them.
I’m still waiting for you to name a single, positive accomplishment from President Biden- one that helped a good number of hard working US Citizens, not one that benefited less than half of one percent of the country.
@CTLAWYER-
I’m not sure why you still don’t believe that after the ACA was enacted we were paying 400% of what we were previously paying. Seriously- where did you think the huge amounts of money would come from, if not the hard-working middle class?
I agree though, there have been many threads about the ACA and I did take this thread off topic- I was leading you up to this so that I can point out the following (about self-employment vs. working for a corporation) and ask a question that I’ve asked before (not necessarily to you) but haven’t gotten a response.
It’s your choice to be self-employed- you seem like a smart person with skills that many corporations could use. You chose to be self-employed because you probably make more money that way. Many corporations (even pre-ACA) had generous health insurance plans with no lifetime limits or preexisting conditions exclusions. Health insurance for those who paid for it themselves was very expensive and didn’t cover as much as corporate plans did (except possibly paying for the most expensive of plans).
So, here’s (a slightly different version of) my hypothetical question again. Let’s say you have two families, let’s call them A and B. The A family lives in a small size house and has a small amount of savings. Mr. A works in an entry level position for a corporation and has a generous health insurance coverage. The B family lives in a large house and has a respectable amount of savings. Mr. B is self-employed, brings in a nice income and has health insurance but it has a limit of $1,000,000.
Unfortunately, the B family has unexpected health expenses and it exceeds the cap. Should the government:
a. Expect Mr. B to get a job with a large corporation that has no preexisting conditions exclusions and no lifetime cap,
b. Expect the B Family to use their savings towards their expenses,
c. Expect the B Family to sell their house for a smaller one and put that money towards their expenses or
d. Raise the premiums and deductibles for the A Family which will wipe out their savings, make them unable to pay their mortgage and force Mr. A to sell the house, move the family out of the only neighborhood they ever lived in and find a new job?
I still fail to see where you explained why you thought the Democratic nominee will win but whatever.
Just because you saved lots of money under the ACA (or whatever you want to call it) doesn’t mean that no one paid for it and that it didn’t have catastrophic consequences for millions of hard working US Citizens, my family included.
We went from paying about $200 a month in premiums and a negligible $250 deductible to paying $400+ per month for a $7,500 deductible. Our annual health insurance expenses went from $200 x 12 + $250 = $2,650 to $400 x 12 + $7,500 = $12,300.
Do you still not agree that health insurance expenses jumped by 400% for some hard working families?
@Sam Klein
This is a very important issue that needs to be discussed.
May I respectfully ask that you start a new thread as to not hijack the OP’s thread (unless the OP feels that it ran its course).
OP’s post specifically asks “Who is going to win and why?”.
The “why” IS in the OP’s post and you left that out- that’s exactly what was mentioning in the first sentence of my last paragraph.
The rest of the last paragraph is a separate issue that I’ve noticed with Libs- they refer to President Trump’s time as president as a disaster but don’t bother to explain why and mention President Biden as the best person for the position given his 50 years in politics but fail to mention a single accomplishment.
I’m not familiar with the insulin cap that you mentioned and who’s ultimately going to pay for it (is it by any chance hard working citizens whose health insurance costs already jumped by more than 400% under President Obama?) but it helps less than 1% of the US population. While it may mean the world to those people it’s far from something to rave about given the damage that he’s done to the planet.
I barely ever agree with CTLAWYER but this is one of those rare times.
The OP asked who’s going to win and why. The intent was to laugh about how wrong everyone was so CTLAWYER replied with something that’ll hopefully be wrong so everyone can laugh at him.
The OP also asked why. Given that Libs can never list a single positive thing (for law abiding and tax paying citizens) President Biden has done as President (or in the 50 or so years he’s been in politics), CTLAWYER left out that part in his response.
@huju-
In short someone is in pain that she’s being judged harshly for something that she didn’t cause or ask for. While she feels that it made her into a better potential spouse she’s not being given the chance to prove it.
@ 4980112t
The shidduch process is really a filtering process if you think about it- you date someone to see if they’re for you or if you need to filter them out. While rejection (especially for something that you had no control over and made the best out of) is painful and frustrating- it does help you filter out those who you wouldn’t want to be related to anyway.
You seem to have taken a challenging situation and made yourself a better person (and potential wife) out of it. May הקב”ה help you find a husband (and mother-in-law) who appreciates your fine qualities.
הצלחה רבה and גמר חתימה טובה.
@FollowMesorah
I agree with CTLAWYER about 1% of the time (possibly even less) but this is one of those times.
If you can’t crack $250,000 then don’t live as if you are. It’s definitely possible for the average couple to make savvy financial decisions and live with much less.
When you purchase an insurance policy you’re paying the insurance company to expose themselves to the risk being insured instead of being exposed yourself.
If your policy requires you to add children regardless of whether they’re home most of the time or not and you decide not to then it’s stealing since you’re exposing them to a risk that you’re not paying for.
(If the kid NEVER drives then it still may be violating your agreement with them but a Rov might say that it’s not stealing. Similarly- if you’re willing to take the risk and cover all damages on your own, without filing a claim, then a Rov might say that it’s not stealing.)
You’re best off call them and being upfront with the living arrangements.
The company we use allows us to have children specifically excluded from the policy while they are away from home.
If the company expects them to be added and you don’t then they won’t cover an accident. If you somehow hide who the driver was and file a claim then you’re stealing.
Why are you so sure that we’re not in the same old age home? Maybe I almost missed the last food cart so I decided to make a joke about the wagon?
(Continuing the trip down memory lane- in the riddle about the monkeys (December of ‘08) he wrote that it was in a magazine in the ‘50’s, he didn’t write that he read it then (he also didn’t write that he didn’t).)