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August 16, 2013 5:29 am at 5:29 am in reply to: How far must one listen to Gedolim (re: elections)? #971048DovidZSchwartzMember
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there are 1 million registered Democrats who are Latino. That’s approximately 30% of the Democratic electorate. Erick Salgado is building momentum in the Latino communities by old fashioned speaking, meeting and word of mouth, and not by money and political connections.
A united Jewish vote behind Erick Salgado will send a clear message to whomever wins that they have to take our people seriously. Giving ourselves away to the apparent winner is one reason why the current administration feels empowered to openly display contempt for our values by publicly mocking bris milah and interfering in our daily lives in other areas.
If you ask how can the Rabbis call this a mitzvah, youre stuck in the old world mentality of seeing political matters as dealing with a feudal duke or czar. The power of voting places the well being of the state in the hands of the citizens. For religious Jewish neighborhoods to throw support behind candidates who publicly declare that our values are hateful or barbaric creates a real issue of Chilul Hashem. This is halachic question.
The psak halacha supporting Erick Salgado can clarify the question about whether its considered an acceptable approach to make deals with politicians who espouse public policies that are antithetical to the Torah in order to secure whatever “benefits” they might promise us once elected.
August 15, 2013 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm in reply to: How far must one listen to Gedolim (re: elections)? #971041DovidZSchwartzMemberI don’t go into these chat rooms at all but the title of this thread grabbed me from the front page of Yeshiva World.
The kefira that’s dressed up as some kind of street-smarts on this thread is as transparent as it is nauseating. You losers who love to poke holes in people’s emunas chachomim were saying the same garbage by Weprin and Fidler. I don’t know who you’re trying to impress, but nobody reading these lines should be misled for a second to think that its normative Orthodox thinking to slander the Rabbonim and the askanim who support Erick Salgado.
Most likely these guys are plants and stooges for the off-color candidates who are going to be hamstrung at the polls when the Orthodox community comes together lkvod Shem Shomayim, bezras Hashem, to prove that we place our faith in our Torah, our chachamim and Avinu Malkeinu alone.
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