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flowers: That is not the case at all, with the OP here.
DoswinMemberold man: The haskala/reform also initially claimed to work within the framework of halacha. The issues you mentioned about the Chasidim vis-a-vis halacha, predate Chasidus and do in fact have valid sources.
November 10, 2011 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #847861DoswinMemberDaasYochid: “in fact, the vast majority od boys do get married.”
So do the vast majority of girls get married.
And don’t be so dismissal of aris2756’s suggestion of a contract (obligating payment upon by the wedding date) rather than making an upfront payment to NASI. NASI can collect contracts from parents instead of collecting $13,000 upfront from parents. Once NASI has the contract — without taking a dime — it can place those girls on this list. This would be much much better than demanding an upfront, multi-thousand dollars deposit.
November 8, 2011 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #847811DoswinMemberDear Moderator: I typed a rather leghnthy reply (approx. 4 hours ago) to multiple questions above, in this thread. It seems to have disappeared into a black hole. I don’t think there was anything remotely objectionable. Perhaps it was deleted in error? If there was s/t slightly off, perhaps you can edit the minor and post it?
Much thanks.
November 8, 2011 1:14 am at 1:14 am in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #847801DoswinMemberIt was quite common for families in Europe to have 10 surviving children that reached adulthood and got married. To speculate that we have a higher growth rate in the 21st century than there was in the early 20th century and earlier seems speculative. I would posit the opposite, especially considering their was little or no ‘family planning’ back then. So, again, I still don’t see what relevant demographics exist today could account for an age gap issue that was not present for hundreds of years prior.
As far as pogroms, I don’t see any reason to speculate that the antisemites targeted men over women. Same with health problems. Again, from personal family history (on both sides) as well as a general knowledge of Jewish history, having 10 married siblings was not uncommon in the least.
November 7, 2011 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm in reply to: If you've read "NASI Project Responds", have you changed your mind? #847794DoswinMemberIn Europe 10+ children was quite common. So there was certainly at least as much, if not more, population growth. And as others pointed out, there was an age gap there too, as it wasn’t uncommon for notably older bochurim (or even widowers) to marry considerably younger brides. So the question still remains, what’s new in the 21st century that makes this a new problem? The suggestion that the problem was simply ignored (or oblivious) for hundreds of years, and simply allowed to fester, doesn’t shtim.
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