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    2cents: ” if vaccines were the primary cause for autism, as you have stated many times, then siblings and genetics would play little to no factor. ”

    Does Genetics Cause Lung Cancer or Does Smoking Cause Lung Cancer? A: It is BOTH
    5% of Smokers develop Lung Cancer.
    Why don’t 100% of Smokers get Lung Cancer? GENETICS
    If people with a genetic weakness for Developing Lung Cancer DONT SMOKE will they get Lung Cancer?
    NO! They will Avoid Lung Cancer by NOT SMOKING

    Does Genetics Cause Autism or do Vaccines Cause Autism? A: It is BOTH
    2% of Vaccinated Children develop Autism.
    Why don’t 100% of Vaccinated Children develop Autism? GENETICS.
    But if Children with genetic weakness don’t get Vaccinated will they get Autism?
    NO! Autism is extremely rare in children who are 100% UNVACCINATED!

    And there IS a Vaxxed vs UnVaxxed Study that shows this!
    And before CDC QUADRUPLED the Vaccine Schedule, Autism was VERY RARE
    1:10,000 Non-verbal Autism compared to 1:150 Non-Verbal Autism after CDC INCREASED Vaccinations!

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    Health: ” Several comparison studies have been made of autism rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated children and found no difference. One such study was from Japan where the MMR vaccine was withdrawn from the country due to concerns about aseptic meningitis. In the study, at least 170 children were found to have developed autism even though they had not received the MMR vaccine.”

    1. The Japan study was not about autism in 100% unvaccinated children so stop lying and claiming
    that the Japan study was about unvaccinated children!

    2. Although the Fraudulent Researchers OMITTED in any summaries of the study that the MMR was REPLACED BY THREE SEPARATE Vaccines! The Fraudulent Researchers wanted people to think that when MMR was taken away, Autism Rate stayed the same to imply that MMR does not increase risk of Autism. But what was HIDDEN IN THE STUDY is that when the MMR was removed – it was REPLACED with THREE SEPARATE VACCINES for Measles, Mumps and Rubella. Here is a quote from the study:

    “The [MMR] program was terminated in April 1993. Subsequently, only MONOVELENT [single] vaccines were administered…measles and rubella vaccinations were each specified for children between 12 and 90 months…the mumps vaccination was voluntary..It was also stipulated that an interval of at least four weeks separate administration of vaccination.”

    Health, Are you going to admit you LIED for calling the Japan Study a comparison between
    vaccinated and unvaccinated children?
    It was a comparison between children who got the MMR and children who got THREE SEPARATE
    VACCINES for Measles, Mumps and Rubella! And the Autism was Rate was the same because it was
    a Vaccinated vs Vaccinated Study – Not a Vaccinated vs UnVaccinated study like you LIED!!!

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    Some Common Sense: “Personal stories are not logical fact based arguments. ”

    I am not relying solely on personal stories.

    1. There IS a Vaxxed vs UnVaxxed Study that shows that children who are 100% Unvaccinated have a much lower rate of Autism (and ADHD, Allergies and Learning Disabilities).

    2. Before CDC QUADRUPLED the Vaccine Schedule in 1990, Autism was very rare – around 1:10,000

    3. There are dozens of studies showing a link between vaccines and autism by real PhD Scientists.
    Google ebook 1200 studies vaccines and Dr. Millers Book 400 vaccine studies.

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    2Cents: “Not sure why you are going for the labels and not sure why you say that I made any claims.
    What I stated and presented just some of the many available data, that there it has been established that autism as other diseases are genetic, which explains why younger siblings of autistic children have a much greater chance of being diagnosed with autism than other children without older siblings that have been diagnosed. ”

    2Cents why are you LYING and DENYING that you said there are data supporting that siblings of children with Autism who are 100% unvaccinated get Autism?

    BELOW IS A QUOTE FROM YOUR OWN WORDS!!!

    Doomsday: β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”
    2Cents:”I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise, ”

    So 2Cents are you admitting there is NO “data” showing that siblings of autistic children who are 100% Unvaccinated have autism???
    NONE of the Studies you cited studied children who were 100% UNVACCINATED!!! NONE!

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    2cents: “Here is another of many, JAMA Nov 2017
    β€œAbstract
    Importance Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is known to be more prevalent among males than females in the general population.”

    Yes, boys are more susceptible to VACCINE INJURY then girls.
    You claimed there is much data about 100% UNVACCINATED Children having Autism.
    You have NOT supplied one study about 100% Unvaccinated children having Autism.

    2Cents – Are you going to admit you LIED when you said there is Data supporting that
    100% Unvaccinated Children get Autism at the same rate as Vaccinated Children???

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    Doomsday: β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”
    2Cents:”I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise, ”

    2Cents let me see your “many sources of data” demonstrating children who are 100% unvaccinated
    with Autism!
    Your twin study did not include children who were 100% unvaccinated!
    Your MMR-Sibling study did not include children who were 100% unvaccinated!

    So either produce a study showing children who were 100% unvaccinated with Autism
    OR ADMIT YOU LIED!

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    RebYid: “Doomsday, increasing autism rates are a natural result of better neonatal care because more babies survive.”

    Prematurity IS a risk factor for Autism – especially because CDC insists that Premature babies be vaccinated!
    But most autistic children were NOT premature – but healthy babies who had NO DELAYS until after
    they had a bad reaction to vaccines.
    Autism is Very Very Very RARE among 100% unvaccinated children.

    Nice try – but No – vaccines are the main cause of Autism.

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    2cents, in your twin study on autism – are any of the autistic children 100% Unvaccinated?

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    2Cents, I am still waiting for you to show me ONE study where siblings of autistic children who were
    100% Unvaccinated got Autism.
    You claimed that there were “many sources of data” stating this. NAME ONE!

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    2cents: “many different studies by different entities, the conclusion, the link [autism-vaccines] does not exist. ”

    2cents EVERY SINGLE STUDY you have cited claiming to prove no-link between vaccines and autism
    I have PROVEN were Fraudulent.
    You did not REFUTE any of the Fraud I clearly explained!
    How about you REFUTE the Proven Fraud of these studies – IF YOU CAN!

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    2cents; quoting from β€œNo effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study”
    β€œRESULTS:
    The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.”

    2 cents: “In the same time, vaccines were not given at all, in this same period of time there was an increase in autism.”

    WRONG! Read the WHOLE Study the MMR WAS REPLACED BY THREE SEPARATE VACCINES!
    The FRAUDULENT Researchers deliberately wrote a LIE:
    ” and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter”

    When what they meant was Not a single vaccine OF MMR was administered in 1993 or thereafter!
    Fraudulent Researchers ALWAYS use these lies – like calling children who did not receive ONE VACCINE “Unvaccinated” when they ARE VACCINATED!

    2cents – are you going to admit that the researchers LIED when they wrote that
    “not a single vaccination was administered”?

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    Doomsday: β€œSiblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!”

    2cents: “I have posted many sources of data that clearly demonstrate otherwise,

    Really? Name ONE source showing siblings of autistic children who are 100% vaccinated have autism.

    (and 100% unvaccinated does NOT mean got All Vaccines except MMR)

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    2cents:” Probably not ABA certified as they strongly believe that autism is a genetic disorder using studies that include twins that clearly demonstrate that there is a mostly a genetic factor)”

    Not an ABA therapist but I know many ABA therapists who believe that vaccines cause autism because that is what so many parents of their students told them. Some of these ABA therapists DELAYED vaccines for their own children because they take very seriously the reports of so many eye-witnesses to vaccine injury!

    Yes there is a GENETIC Component to autism – just like there is a genetic component to Lung Cancer!
    Only 5% of smokers get lung cancer (genetic component) but if they hadn’t smoked they would not have gotten lung cancer.
    Autism rate went from 1:10,000 (1970) to 1:50 (today) after CDC quadrupled the vaccine schedule. So this excessive vaccination – especially given to newborns and pregnant women – is causing those with genetic disposition to develop autism.

    Siblings of children with autism who are 100% UNVAXXED do NOT have autism!

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    2Cents: Dr. Zimmerman released a written statement after the piece that was put together.

    Again, why are you calling it a “piece that was put together” instead of the TRUTH:
    A SWORN AFFIDAVIT BY DR. ZIMMERMAN???

    2Cents: yet he also stated that vaccines should be given and is not the cause for autism.

    LIE! I read the statement by Dr. Zimmerman (it is on Snopes website) and he repeats that
    Vaccines CAN CAUSE AUTISM. STOP LYING, 2 Cents!

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    You can’t sue vaccine companies because in 1986, Pharmaceutical Companies threatened Congress that unless they get immunity from Lawsuits they will stop making vaccines.

    The fact that vaccine makers were Losing in Court for causing Vaccine Injuries should have made
    Congress be more cautious before just issuing a blanket immunity. But Congress gets MILLIONS from
    Pharmaceutical Company so Pharmaceutical Company got their Immunity.

    Right after getting immunity, Pharmaceutical gave MILLIONS to CDC (why is that legal????) and
    CDC QUADRUPLED the Vaccine Schedule! And Autism went from 1:10,000 to 1:50 and we have
    the Sickest Children in History.

    Not only does Pharmaceutical Co make Billions on Vaccines, they make TRILLIONS on selling
    Meds to all the SICK CHILDREN their Vaccines created!

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    2cents: “For the 1980-1994 birth cohorts, a marked, sustained increase in autism case numbers was noted, from 44 cases per 100 000 live births in the 1980 cohort to 208 cases per 100 000 live births in the 1994 cohort (a 373% relative increase), but changes in early childhood MMR immunization coverage over the same time period were much smaller”

    The study is called Time trends in autism and in MMR immunization coverage in California.
    The study claims that there since there was only a SMALL increase in MMR Vaccination rate but a
    LARGE increase in Autism Diagnosis – that this is “proof” that MMR doesn’t cause Autism!

    You ProVaxxers are the ones who say the definition of Autism keeps EXPANDING!
    That is why there INCREASE in Autism Diagnosis was Larger then the increase in MMR Vaccines!

    2Cents – EVERY Study that you cite claiming to prove there is NO link to between Vaccines & Autism
    has been SHOWN to be FALSE!
    When are you going to admit that ALL these studies are FRAUDULENT???

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    Folks, do you notice that 2cents omits that when the MMR was withdrawn it was replaced by
    THREE Separate vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella?
    2Cents is trying to make you think that JUST taking out MMR caused autism rate to increase when
    it was REPLACING MMR with Three SEPARATE Vaccines that caused Autism to Increase!

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    2cents:” Conclusions: The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD”

    LIE! All the study proves is that giving MMR as three SEPARATE vaccines causes just as much Autism as giving MMR as ONE Vaccine.

    If you want to prove that MMR causes vaccines do a study comparing children who received
    ONLY the MMR vs Children who received ZERO Vaccines!
    But of Course the Government would NEVER do that study – because it would prove that
    MMR and ALL Vaccines raise the risk of Autism (and ADHD, Seizures, Allergies, IBS, Diabetes, Cancer, SIDS, Learning DIsabilities, Asthma….)

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    2Cents: “β€œNo effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study”

    In the study there was NO drop in Autism rate after Japan dropped the MMR Vaccine.
    But what 2cents does not tell you is that Japanese children were still Vaccinated for Measles, Mumps and Rubella in THREE SEPARATE VACCINES.

    So all the study “proves” is that giving Measles, Mumps and Rubella as THREE Vaccines causes just as much Autism as giving MMR (One Vaccine).

    Hey 2Cents, why won’t the government do a study comparing the Autism rate of
    Vaxxed vs UnVaxxed???

    Because the Government KNOWS that the Autism Rate of 100% Unvaxxed is nearly ZERO!!!

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    And the Government would NEVER DARE compare the autism rate of
    Vaxxed Children vs 100% UnVaxxed Children.

    Because that would show 1:50 Autistic vs 1:10,000 Autistic (nearly Zero)!

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    2cents:” j. Dr. Zimmerman clarified that while he does believe that children should be vaccinated, children with mitochondrial dysfunction should be studied better.”

    So why do doctors COERCE parents to continue to vaccinate children who already had a SEVERE reaction to a previous vaccine?
    Why do doctors COERCE parents to vaccinate younger siblings of autistic children who are at increased risk of getting autism?

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    2Scents, you also left off that Dr. Zimmerman testified that he was Scheduled to testify in the
    Yates Hazlehurst Vaccine Injury Trial – but after he told DOJ Lawyers that Vaccines CAN cause Autism,
    DOJ Lawyers FIRED Dr. Zimmerman – but then USED Dr. Zimmerman to claim that Vaccines can NEVER cause autism when Dr. Zimmerman explicitly told DOJ Lawyers the exact OPPOSITE!

    You also left out that Dr. Zimmerman believes that YATES HAZLEHURST’s Autism
    WAS CAUSED BY VACCINES!!

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    2Cents, you left out that Dr. Zimmerman said TWICE in his sworn affidavit that
    “VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM”.

    Since you respect Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion, do you agree that Vaccines CAN cause Autism?

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    2cents: “despite the statements being released about him, [Dr. Zimmerman]”

    Why are calling a SWORN AFFIDAVIT BY Dr. Zimmerman, “statements released about him”?

    Folks, see how ProVaxxers Lie?

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    2cents: “a. Not sure why you recycle your old garbage, the Danish study actually supports the null hypothesis that MMR does not cause autism. ”

    There are a Few Danish Studies – ALL ARE FRAUDULENT!
    The one you are referring to is: A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism”
    The Study says “”…,neither autistic disorder nor other autistic-spectrum disorders were associated with MMR vaccination.” but the DATA in the study shows the OPPOSITE – Children who got MMR had a HIGHER RATE of Autism then children who did NOT get the MMR!!!

    The researchers also fraudulently moved some autistic children who GOT the MMR into the group of children who did NOT get the MMR – but even with that Fraud the number of children with Autism was HIGHER in the MMR Group!

    You can read details of the FRAUD. Google: VACLIB dot org and Danish MMR Study!

    Folks, the Fake News – which gets 70% of its AD REVENUE from Pharmaceutical Company – does not read the entire study. They only read the CONCLUSION which states MMR does not increase autism rate. If the FAKE NEWS read the entire study they would see that the DATA shows the OPPOSITE – MMR DOES INCREASE Rate of Autism!!!

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    2cebts: “d. Regardless of any changes in the rate of vaccinations, autism has increased. ”

    LIE! the rate of Autism INCREASING DIRECTLY CORRELATES to the increase in Vaccine Schedule.

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    2cents: “c. the NAM (formerly IOM) has accepted the evidence as conclusive and released a comprehensive report that there actually is evidence that there is no link between MMR and autism. (the NAM is an independent body comprised of doctors and scientists)”

    IOM – Institute of Medicine is NOT an INDEPENDENT body of doctors and scientists. IOM was CREATED BY CONGRESS in 1970! Although IOM LIES that it does not accept Federal Funding an investigation by Senator Coburns Office revealed that 55% of IOM’s Funding comes from FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

    The other funds for the “Holy” Institute of Medicine comes from the Vaccine Industry, and the
    Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation which is dedicated to injecting the entire world with vaccines.

    So IOM is a front group for Government/Vaccine Industry and is NOT an “independent body of doctors and scientists”!

    And IOM was caught LYING that it does not accept Federal Funding so why should anyone believe IOM when it says Vaccines don’t cause Autism???

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    2cents, MORE children die from MMR Vaccine per year then die from Measles per year.
    And that is besides the millions of children who are PERMANENTLY vaccine injured by Vaccines!

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    ProVax: “Please explain to me why does BCBS pay a whopping $400 bonus per vaccinated child theat meets the vaccine schedule the that impose on Doctors.?”

    The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more…Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child, so the average pediatrician gets paid
    $618,400 (over half a million dollars) for forcing parents to follow insane dangerous CDC vaccine schedule! And will fire any parent who wants to skip or even delay ONE vaccine!!!

    If 63% of parents are not 100% vaccinated per CDC schedule – the pediatrician loses the WHOLE bonus. So even if a child had a SEVERE Reaction to a vaccine, the Pediatrician will FORCE the parent to continue vaccinating (claiming “coincidence and not caused by vaccine) – and the Child ends up Fully Autistic. But the Doctor got his HALF MILLION DOLLAR BONUS and can’t be sued for vaccinating a child who had a bad reaction to a vaccine so Doctors doesn’t care!

    THINK ABOUT IT!!!

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    ProVax: “Please explain to me why does BCBS pay a whopping $400 bonus per vaccinated child theat meets the vaccine schedule the that impose on Doctors.?”

    The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more…Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child, so the average pediatrician gets paid
    $618,400 (over half a million dollars) for forcing parents to follow insane dangerous CDC vaccine schedule! And will fire any parent who wants to skip or even delay ONE vaccine!!!

    THINK ABOUT IT!!!

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    Doomsday: YOU, DAAS YOCHID ARE ANTI-VAX!

    DY: But wait, I think most kids should be vaccinated for MMR, Polio, DTaP, flu, and others, on schedule. I also dont believe there’s a link between vaccines and SIDS or autism. Am I still anti-vax?

    YES! anyone who doesn’t believe 100% in the HOLY CDC Schedule is an Anti-Vaxxer! Welcome to the club!

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    Well it seems to me that the ProVaxxers on this thread believe 100% in the CDC Vaccine Schedule.
    So that’s my definition of ProVax (and also the maistream Fake News Media’s definition).

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    PROVAX: “Doomsday I wanna commend you for the courage that you have to stand up for the truth. Hashem should bentch you with all BRUCHES SHEBETORAH!! ”

    Amen! Thank you!

    But WHY do you call yourself PROVAXX????

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    I don’t Know if Dr. Zimmerman is pro-vax or anti-vax.

    I DO know that Dr. Zimmerman SWORE he believes that Vaccines CAN cause Autism!
    So I find it hard to believe Dr. Zimmerman supports the current vaccine schedule and all the dangerous ingredients in vaccines.

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    DaasYochid, I hate to break the news to you, but if you define “Pro-Vax” as someone who believes
    vaccines are beneficial but believes in skipping/delaying some vaccines –
    YOU, DAAS YOCHID ARE ANTI-VAX!

    Congratulations for joining the Side of Truth!

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    ProVaxxers, In the 1960s when there were only FOUR vaccines (not 72 like today)
    were there massive epidemics, were people dying in droves from measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio,
    diptheria, etc in the 1960s?

    And if in the 1960s there were no mass epidemics and people were NOT dying – and autism was 1:10,000, and there was no disorders called SIDS or ADHD and 1:6 children were not learning disabled –
    Why can’t we go back to the 1960s Vaccine Schedule of FOUR Vaccines – given at age 5 or 6 when children started school?

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    DaasYochid: “I’ll define pro-vax for the purpose of this question as someone who recommends that children receive most of the vaccines (not necessarily all and not necessarily at the precise times recommended by the CDC)”

    According to the FAKE NEWS MEDIA anyone who questions the CDC schedule – even regarding skipping ONE Vaccine or just Delaying ONE Vaccine ‘ is an ANTI-VACCINE HERETIC.

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    DaasYochid – Is Dr. Bob Sears Pro Vaccine or Anti-Vaccine?

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    Daas Yochid. First define “pro-vaccine”.

    1. IF someone believes that in theory that vaccines can be beneficial,but the current CDC vaccine schedule is dangerous – is that person pro vaccine or anti vaccine?

    2. If someone believes in theory, that vaccines can be beneficial, but the ingredients in today’s
    vaccines such as aluminum, formaldehyde, squalene are dangerous – is that person pro vaccine
    or anti vaccine?

    3. f someone believes in theory, that vaccines can be beneficial, but believes we should go back
    to the vaccine schedule of 1980 – 1/4 of the vaccines of today – is that person pro vaccine or anti vaccine?

    4. If someone believes in theory, that vaccines can be beneficial, but believes we should do a
    vaxxed vs unvaxxed study – to be CERTAIN that the benefits outweigh the risks, is that person
    pro vaccine or anti vaccine?

    5. Or does “Pro Vaccine” mean a person who blindly believes everything from the CDC and supports the current schedule 72 Vaccines (in 1970 it was only 4 vaccines) and also supports the HUNDREDS MORE VACCINES that are coming to be FORCED against the will on everyone?

    I cannot answer your question until you define the definition of “Pro Vaccine”?

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    DaasYochid:

    1. Does Dr. Zimmerman believe that Vaccines Can Cause Autism?

    2. Does Dr. Zimmerman believe that Yates Hazlehurst’s Autism was caused by Vaccines?

    3. Did Dr. Zimmerman state that DOJ Lawyers MISREPRESENTED his views on Vaccines-Autism?

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    Proof that Vaxopedia is a LYING PRO-VAX Website:

    From VAXOPEDIA:
    β€œThe usual suspects are alleging fraud during the in the Vaccine Court Omnibus Proceedings….
    Kennedy and Hazlehurst claim to have evidence of β€œobstruction of justice and appallingly consequential fraud by two DOJ lawyers ”

    Vacopedia is implying that “the ususal suspects” are Lying about Fraud – saying they “claim to have evidence”. Kennedy and Hazlehurst HAVE IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD – a Sworn Affidavit by
    Dr. Zimmerman stating that DOJ Lawyers MISREPRESENTED his opinion – Dr. Zimmerman TOLD DOJ Lawyers that he believes VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM – and DOJ Lawyers LIED in Dr. Zimmerman’s Name that Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion is the exact opposite.

    Dr. Zimmerman further states that he believes that Yates Hazlehurst’s Autism WAS CAUSED BY VACCINES – but DOJ Lawyers LIED that Dr. Zimmerman believes the Opposite!

    And VAXOPEDIA IS LYING TO COVER UP GOVERNMENT FRAUD!!!

    More Vaxopedia LIES:

    “Most folks remember that the Vaccine Court Omnibus Autism Proceedings were a series of cases that were used to test theories that vaccines could contribute to or cause autism.
    The conclusion?

    Vaccines are not associated with autism.”

    VAXOPEDIA KNOWS that the “conclusion” that “vaccines are not associated with autism” was based upon DOJ LAwyers LYING IN COURT that Dr. Zimmerman believes that Vaccines are not associated with autism” when Dr. Zimmerman said in a sworn statement that”
    Dr. Zimmerman believes: VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM!!!

    See how PRO VAX WEBSITE LIES AND MISLEADS to try to hide the TRUTH that Vaccines CAN cause autism!!! And Health is so dumb that Health believes Vaxopedia LIes – or Health is lying and
    pretending to believe Vaxopedia lies. You decide!

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    Health, your post CONFIRMED that there was FRAUD by Government Lawyers in the Yates Hazlehurst case – that they LIED about Dr. Zimmerman’s views on Vaccines and Autism.

    So what is your point?
    That Government Lawyers LIE in Vaccine Court to Cover-Up that Vaccines cause autism?
    Because that’s what your post proves!

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    Ubiquitin: “The study was looking at MMR
    The study was looking at MMR”

    I KNOW that. But 2Cents LIED ” β€œHowever, the rate of ASD diagnoses have no dropped, nor are these families chances of their other children diagnosed with ASD less likely, despite withholding vaccines”.

    2Cents is implying that siblings of autistic childrem who were 100% Unvaccinated got Autism.
    That is a BIG FAT LIE! And I have told 2cents a Million times that the Siblings who got Autism WERE VACCINATED – Just not the MMR. But 2cents continues to LIE that the Siblings who got Autism
    were Unvaccinated. Note 2cents does not say the Siblings who got Autism didn’t get MMR.
    This is DELIBERATE LIE to cover up harm of vaccines!

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    Yserbius:β€œFraudulent CDC studies”: Only a small handful out of many many other studies. Not enough to even cast a shadow on the research. And in the worst offenders, the fraud was monetary and didn’t affect the actual data or research (the Danish Study).

    1. No – the STUDY was fraudulent. In the Danish study, the researchers LIED that autism rate went UP after thimerosal was removed. This “increase” was BEFORE thimerosal was removed they only counted autistic children in HOSPITALS. After Thimerosal was removed they counted Autistic Children living AT HOME. There are 10x more autistic children at home then in hospitals – that is how the Fake Researchers claimed autism went up.
    They also EXPANDED the definition of autism AFTER Thimerosal was removed to FRAUDULENTLY inflate the number of autism after Thimerosal was removed!

    2. In the Sibling-Autism Study, the researchers acknowledged “healthy user bias” – that children who are already showing signs of autism are more likely not to get MMR which skews the results.
    That is why it is UNSCIENTIFIC not to RANDOMIZE who gets MMR and who does not.
    The researchers also acknowledged that it was possible that some of the children listed as “No MMR” actually GOT the MMR, as it was based on insurance claims, and children could have been vaccinated at clinics and there would be no insurance record. So the whole study was INVALID.

    3. In the vaccine injury trial of Yates Hazlehurst, Government Lawyers LIED that Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion is that Vaccines NEVER cause Autism when Dr. Zimmerman TOLD the Government Lawyers that Vaccines CAN cause Autism! In Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion, Yates Hazlehurst’s autism WAS caused by vaccines, but Government Lawyers LIED that Dr. Zimmerman’s opinion is that vaccines NEVER cause autism. Another example of government LYING to cover up Vaccines Cause Autism!

    4. CDC conducted study in PHILIPPINES showing Vaccinated children score higher on tests. But in Philippines vaccinated children have better educated parents and better food and clean water then unvaxxed kids – THAT is why vaxxed kids score higher. And in Philippines, children get MUCH MUCH FEWER Vaccines then in USA so the whole study is FRAUDULENT!

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    Yserbius: “β€œAutism rates went to 1:50”: Shlugged up time and again. We simply got better at diagnosing autism instead of declaring everyone retarded or slow”

    The original definition of autism was NON VERBAL Autism which was 1:10,000 in 1970.
    Today 1:150 are NON-VERBAL Autistic.
    Per 1982 report Prevalence of Mental Retardation 1982 – “Children with I.Q. below 50…prevalence rate approximately 4 per thousand” Pg. 4.
    So whether you call it severe retardation or non verbal autism it was 1:250 in 1980 – and that was mostly DOWN SYNDROME. “idiopathic” (no known cause) retardation or autism was 1: 10,000.
    And now it is 1:150 NON VERBAL Autism – so autism/retardation rate has SKY ROCKETED and the
    FAKE NEWS and CDC Propaganda are LYING!

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    RebYid: “Comparing autism to cancer is despicable. ”

    I’m not comparing autism to cancer.
    I am comparing Tobacco Industry to Pharmaceutical Industry.

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    Yserbius: “β€œHundreds of studies” No there aren’t. ”

    Yes there are. There is an ebook with 1200 vaccine danger studies and another ebook with 400
    studies showing dangers of vaccine (written by MEDICAL doctor).
    And Scientists have DEBUNKED the CDC studies, NONE of the CDC studies were double blind
    studies and CDC even refuses to do a Retrospective Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Study – with No explanation.
    CDC can get away with that because Pharmaceutical is the biggest Donor/Briber of Congress!
    And 70% of all Media advertising is Pharmaceutical Industry, so they control the News, too.

    doomsday
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    Yserbius:β€œThousands of parents report autism after vaccination”: Already shlugged up dozens of times in this thread. Diagnosis and symptoms for autism happen around the same time that kids get their first shots. That’s why you need scientific double-blind studies. Which there were. And they showed zero correlation.”

    There was NEVER a double blind vaccine study. CDC claims that would be “unethical”.
    CDC even refuses to do a RETROSPECTIVE vaxxed vs unvaxxed study – with no explanation.
    And SCIENTISTS have pointed out the intentional fraud in CDC studies which I have SPECIFICALLY pointed out the fraud.

    What a coincidence that autism shows up right after shots. Just like 90% of SIDS occurs within a short time after shots. Just a “coincidence”. NOT!!!

    doomsday
    Participant

    Ubiquiton: “and unlike vaccines which have been shown in dozens and dozens of studies that they dont cause autism, ”

    There is a free e-book listing 1,200 studies that vaccines are harmful.
    STOP lying that there are no studies that vaccines are dangerous.
    Google: ebook 1200 studies vaccines the truth will prevail

    doomsday
    Participant

    There is another free ebook: miller’s review 400 vaccine studies that show vaccines are harmful.

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