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I agree with g_a_w?
Moshiach is coming ever so much closer.
I agree with you by a talmid chacham who can’t be mevater on kavod haTorah. But everyone else can be mevater on their kavod which to me indicates that it is their right to do with it as they see fit.
I’m not saying that it isn’t also good for the honorer’s middos. But that the main part seems to be the right of the honoree.
I lost.
Well you have two choices. You can either ask bpt or your LOR. Personally, I suggest bpt since I know him better so I can vouch for his good intentions.
But what if he can’t afford glasses?
What if he never learned to think about others or his situation prevents him from being able to?
Thinking about others does not come naturally to some people and without someone to help them, they may never realize it. But everyone notices when their vision dims.
And you can post if you have got the answer just don’t give it away for others kapish?
No, mi dispiace. Non parlo Italiano.
does this mean you didn’t like my little drasha?
“… and a card saying “I made a donation to Yeshiva World News and then ate this ?????? ???? on your behalf”…”
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‘????? ??? ??? ?’ ?????? ????: ???? ????? ???? ?? ???
So from these two gemarahs it seems that doing chesed and being attractive are part of the Jewish female genetics.
my take on this is like mytake
“mushkebabel”
It took me at least a full 30 seconds to figure out what this word was.
Anyway, I think you are describing a tipush not a rasha. I always wondered this question myself though:
Someone who lacks insight into people or who chooses to abstains from using it-
Is he considered a meizid on not using his head but a shogeg for not doing the right thing since l’mayseh he didn’t know?
Or because he may have figured it out had he sat and thought about it he’s a meizid for his actions as well?
When I was working on my kriyah I got a set of Yalkut Me’am Loez and this little green Hebrew-English dictionary and went through the whole set on chumash.
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Thinking about something all the time is never a good thing,unless it’s a good thing.
Wow tomim. I knew that there was an inyan to drink it but you are the first person I’ve ever heard to do it. I didn’t even know you can get it. There is a jewlery store in geulah (owned by a Jew of course) that gives away free uncut rubies (although you need to buy the chain to put it on).
^That is what I wrote first
Then I noticed your second post and I realized that maybe my leg got pulled so far I’m going to need to buy a plane ticket to get it back.
Tell me it ain’t so.
Let’s say Reuven knew all the computer programming languages: basic, c++, XML, whatever they all are- this guy knows them.
Now you show him a certain computer game and Reuven explains to you how the programming works.
Is it more mestaber that Reuven deconstructed the program and came up with some rules that seem to fit into the Logic of the programming?
Or is it more likely that since Reuven knows the programming he probably called on his profound computer knowledge to explain how the programs works and if you too would be a computer programmer the Loops, Ifs, Else, etc.’s that Reuven is describing would make more sense to you too?
There are a number of times that Chaza”l demonstrate their ability to create. On the Gemarah in Sanhedrin 67b “Rav Chaninah and Rav Oshiya, every erev Shabbos they toiled in hilchos Yetzira and created a three year old calf…” Rashi there says “…through combining the letters of Hashem that the world was created with…”
In other Rashi is explaining that they knew the programming language.
But the mishnah in Chagigah 11b says not to be doresh maaseh bereishis and maaseh merkavah in front of two and one people respectively ie. they have to hide the sod. So when they wanted to teach a certain inyan in nistar let’s say they hid it in the common yediya of their times that the earth was flat and the sun hid above the rakiya. And I don’t think that this is sheker because it must be that on some ruchniyusdig madreigah something like this occurs.
But when it was noygeah l’mayseh for instance by avodah zara (41a) they clearly spelled out that the earth was round and therefore a depiction of a person holding a globe is avodah zara. Although I am confident that there too is also deeper inyanim.
Tehilim 51:4
“Wash me a lot from my avonos and from my chataim purify me”
The Tomer Dvorah teaches us how to be closer to Hashem by acting like Him. Can you imagine even what would happen if Hashem wouldn’t clean us from the tons of aveiros we do everyday.
So too you, must gather your strength and wash your house from its dirt and purify it from its filth every day.
Lo al yedei malach, vlo al yedei shaliach. elah eclipse b’atzmah.
But that Mashal is not a good one here at all. Any individual is not growing up in a vacuum, where the concept of G-d is alien and he needs to come to this brand new thought. The idea is already here and it is up to people to use whatever tools are at his disposal to conclude whether it is emes or not.
I acutally didn’t know that simpletoremember had an article on the DH altogether although after you mentioned it I found a couple. The professor that I was talking about is not mentioned there though. His book is considered a standard text on the critique of this. But let’s leave off it.
I am not saying that the gemarah is not also halachic, but there is definitely sod in every sugyah. And it is clear that this is what the Ben Ish Chai was saying. But really, think about it. They knew how to use the building blocks of the world that Hashem used to create the world itself -to create life (sanhedrin 67b) and you think they didn’t know that how the life they were creating worked?
Not being able to fathom anything about Hashem is not a stirah to anything I’ve said. About the atzmiyus of Hashem there is nothing we can say. It is only about what He created that we can talk about.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that from the Rambam’s works it is clear that he didn’t learn kabbalah since that is exaclty what I quoted to you earlier: That the Rambam said after he had already learned kabbalah that if he wouldn’t be so old already and his works would not have already gone out into the world he would have been chozer on many things he wrote.
I don’t know why you call the letter a forgery. The Shomrei Emunim HaKadmon didn’t think it was. The Abarbanel that he quoted didn’t. The Ramban and Mohara”m Alshker are also quoted. I don’t understand why you think it was a forgery.
So this thread is to discuss everything but the OP’s question?
If you catch your kid taking a nosh that he knows he’s not supposed to have but hold off punishing him until later, do you think your child will think he’s off the hook, or will he be obsessing about how drastic his punishment might be?
I’m an introvert, so I would rather recognize that this man was also created for me. If I wouldn’t deserve it, this man would not have been a shliach for my embarrassment and either I have something to learn here, or I should pay the man for his “Get out of Gehenom Free” card that he gave me.
Like whoever said it: daygeh for my ruchniyos and yenem’s gashmiyus
So anyone who knows the answer shouldn’t respond and anyone who doesn’t know the answer can’t respond!
I don’t think that the Rambam was talking about this type of paradox. Also it is widely known that the Rambam didn’t learn kabballah until after he wrote his sefarim (cf. Shomrei Emunim haKadmon, see below) and so he may not have been aware of the “tzimtzum” until then. I don’t claim to understand it myself, but I think it is logical to say that a contraction to Infinite is itself a paradox.
But even without that we can already see that we are a paradox to Hashem to begin with. How do you explain ‘??? ??? ???? ???? without minimizing Hashem? How can there be an existence let alone a finite one in tandem with the Infinite without taking away from its infinity?
This is a quote from the Shomrei Emunim HaKadmon. He was a Rishon. In ????? ?”? there he quotes the Abarbanel’s ???? ???? ?”? (among others):
??? ??? ????? ????”? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ??????. “???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ??????? ????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ???”. ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??”?
yitayning:
I don’t have a Moreh Nevuchim at home and it is very late. But according to the rest of your wuote in its original context at sacred-texts, it seems to me that he is saying that the amount of time it would take a person to go through all the various branches of Logic, Math, Phsyics and Metaphysics would not leave a person time to finish finding the truth, that there is a G-d. Not that it couldn’t be done just that it would take too long. But had there been time we would be able to “make assertions about Him”.
Just because I automatically reject the DH doesn’t mean I’m factually wrong. But to paraphrase a certain goy “You have to assume that the sources worked towards consistency while the R did the exact opposite”.
The gemarah in Chulin is also not a good proof, The line that I …’ed out above from the Ben Ish Chai was
????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ???? ??????
It’s widely known that Chaza”l hid sod in pshat. It is very easy to say that what they were talking about was not only what we see but also what we don’t see, but they saw.
Then Hallejuya…. such a peron would NEVER make a statement along the lines of
Obviously, I’m going to say that such a tzaddik wouldn’t make such a statement unless he thought he could. In which case he would. If he did say it, then he thought he could. If he thought he could and he is a tzaddik, then he could.
Allow me to quote the Ben Ish Chai on that gemarah in Pesachim that was quoted earlier. After giving his explanation of the gemarah there on 94b, he adds:
???? ????’ ???? ??? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ??????? ???…??? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?? ??????
If you would say the nature of the world changed, I could understand that. I think I saw in the Yalkut MeAm Loez that there were a number of times that the teva changed. But especially with regards to the sun where it is clear that chaza”l knew the earth was round, I mean there’s a Mishnah, Zohar, Talmud Bavli, Yerushalmi and Midrash all saying that the world is round, it’s hard for me to hear that they ‘didn’t know’. The gemarah is Torah she’ba’al peh- how can it be wrong?
I do not think that I have all the answers. But I do think that all the answers are out there and available to those who search. hofach bah v’hofach bah. The chisaron is in my yidiyah not in chaza”l’s Torah.
You are making this into a philosophical question g_a_w: do I have all of life’s answers? We are talking on a practical level. No, I can’t explain the deepest kabbalistic secrets and while Shlomo HaMelech could, maybe he couldn’t explain even deeper secrets than that. But I am sure he could explain everything else based on the Torah.
“Have some cake, You made it.”
It’s not a posuk its from a gemarah in Eiruvin 19a. It actually goes:
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In fact the gemarah goes on to say that this line is only applies to goyim and not to klal Yisroel because we do -do teshuvah.
This gemara a few lines down is the source for the famous line that even the rishaim of klal yisroel are full of mitzvos like a pomegranate.
AZ:
I think there is a difference between davening for something and being gozer something. I also think a tzaddik would know if he has the koach to be gozer something.
I will try to find the source, but I have heard that if someone has emunah in a tzaddik’s words then even if the tzaddik was not on a madreigah to be po’el nissim the person will still get it from the zchus of his emunah.
I’d imagine the Besh”t’s every bracha came true. Am I wrong?
I don’t think what I am saying is avodah zarah bcause one of the characteristics of a tzaddik is that he is misbatel to HKB”H, his da’as is da’as Torah. So anything he desires is what Hashem wants.
aries:
There is also an inyan of a Ruby which brings good luck
I have seen brought down in a number of places such as Rabbeinu Bechaye and Yalkut Me’am Loez that rubies are mesugal for pregancy ie. to get pregnant and to not have a miscarriage. But I haven’t seen anything about luck. Can you bring your source?
always here:
I think that not saying tehillim at night is only when the midas hadin is sholet. So for instance you can say it after chatzos all week long. Maybe on Purim there is no midas Hadin also, so you’d be able to say it all night long as well.
SJSinNYC:
I don’t really understand where your hashkafa is coming from. It is certainly not what I have been taught and some of it doesn’t make any sense to me. So I will have to leave it at that.
JRafael:
The Bais Halevi at the end of Bo says that it is impossible to prove Yiddishkeit to a person who has lost his emuna.
He explains there that all the debates that took place with chaza”l were to disprove anything that disproves Judaism. But to positively prove Judaism is impossible.
I understand this to mean that there is nothing that disproves Judaism but there is also no empirical evidence to prove it.
Although I don’t understand how a person can remain frum believing as you do, I nevertheless respect your opinion and your commitment to Judaism despite what you perceive as proof to the contrary.
Your statements though seem to suggest that it your beliefs regarding seeming unanswerable discrepancies are fact rather than your opinion. With that I must strongly disagree.
Someone who was frum and became frei is a rasha
I would say that someone who was frum and became frei is called a porek ol.
If someone kept all the mitzvos because he grew up being told that he needs to do mitzvos because they are good for his heart. Then he has a heart attack. You wouldn’t call him a rasha for not keeping the mitzvos anymore, he was just misled to begin with. This is not really any different.
Oh, P4M, I see you like to eat light.
I think people drink OJ because its not a complex sugar so it gives you a boost right away while you digest your starches and carbs. That’s my guess as a non-professional
AZ:
Your point is understood but I disagree.
ONLY the Kol Yachol has the power to be Maftiach “ANYONE” who does something.
Except that this is exactly what tzaddik gozer means. Yehoshuah even countered Hashem’s gezeirah that the sun should move in its path by stopping nature itself.
Tzaddik Gozer is not capable of guranteing with such a broad stroke
What defines a broad stroke and what is thin?
and no person of the stature of Tzaddik Gozer would be silly enought to make such a statement
This is not a fact but an opinion based on the idea that a tzaddik can’t make such a gezeirah. If they can, you’re wrong.
I think everyone knows that there is NO tzadik whose EVERY bracha came true.
I don’t.
ONLY the Ribbone Shel Olam, S’ehu Kol Yachol is capable of that.
Or ‘only the RBS”O can be the source of a tzaddik’s bracha’.
To think otherwise, is makeing a deity out of a human
See above. Also there is ’emunas chachamim’.
and may possibly border on transgressing one of the 13 ikarim of the Ramabam
Which one?
I think the question is whether or not you think that Hashem grants tzaddikim control over nature. If a tzaddik wanted, one erev Shabbos, to make a three year old cow to eat for Shabbos, could he? That is going against nature- a nes niglah. Why can’t he cause people to find their zivugim which is only a nes nistar?
Wolf:
I’m pretty sure that no one has ever satisfactorily resolved the paradox of omniscience and free will.
Explain satisfactorily.
For one thing, the creation of a paradox should still be within means of an omnipotent being, do you not agree?
The Sifsei Chaim (I forgot who he based it on) explains that we can’t really ask that question to begin with. Hashem’s knowledge is not a separate part of Hashem but it is Hashem Himself. I have heard that prior to creating the world Hashem constricted His infiniteness (this itself is a paradox). I understand this to mean that He created “Paradox to Himself”. Which is us.
AZ:
I can’t vouch for the statement since I never heard him say it and I don’t know where the Hamodia got it from. But I think it’s possible that he said. Many Rebbes made havtachos b’geder tzaddik gozer v’elokim mekayem. So he doesn’t need to be a kol yachol or a navi.
a pidyon
For those who don’t know. R’ Doniel Frisch ztz”l was the mechaber of the Matok Midvash peirush on the Zohar that is mekubel by all of klal yisroel.
I met him in Rav Gamliel Rabinowitz’s (one of the roshei yeshivah of Shaarei Shomayim of Rav Shlomo Zalman) house. He told me Rav Frisch was his rebbe and they were learning together.
He was niftar about 5 years ago or so and he was definitely one of the semi-hiddin tzaddikim of the past few decades.
fasting…thursday…taanis ester…hmmm.
It’s not ringing any bells for me, sorry.
I’m not sure where you’re coming from.
charliehall:
How can a mere mortal such as me even think for a second that I could prove God’s existence.
If the sun went backwards one day, would you not be able to point at it and say ‘see’. I am not arguing for Hashem’s existence through Hashem Himself, but through His interaction with the world.
it is important to note that our sages for the most part (Elisha ben Avuha a notable exception) didn’t let the fact that they had unresolved Questions to cause them to stop observing Shabat and Kashrut!
Can you give examples of ‘sages that had unresolved questions’?
Also, how do you explain that Acher entered pardes, heard a bas kol and didn’t believe in Hashem?
I totally disagree with everything you’ve said. What is your belief based on? If I told you that there was a big invisible pink dragon in the sky would you believe me? I hope not. So what is different?
I will agree that there is not one event or idea that provides empirical evidence, that is available to the masses. But when you look at all the anomalies in Judaism as a whole, the results are definitely conclusive.
g_a_w:
Sola Fide?!
Well he’s not getting saved from eternal gehenom over here.
I’ll be honest, I don’t really understand it so well. It’s brought a number of times from different places if I remember correctly. I looked it up for a second and found one maymar that is brought from the magid mimezeritch explaining how someone who has bitachon in Hashem attatches himself to the midah of chesed and so he gets only chesed. Someone who always has yiras ha’onesh attatches himself to midas hadin and so he gets shefa from there.
What happens to all his aveiros? I have no idea. There has to be some poreias choyv somewhere, I would think. But I can’t argue with the magid and whoever else he brings.
g_a_w:
One that takes place in a theatrical discussion. I don’t want say exactly and cause a problem to people who won’t be able to think of an answer and end up with questions.
SJSinNYC:
You said it yourself. It just needs to be a “seemingly” legitimate alternative. A person has to actively search and find the answers, not expect a giluy one morning while walking down the street. But if you search, you will find. This is true of all mitzvos she’blev. If it were not possible to come to emunah through logic then you’ve thrown out all the critical thinkers in klal yisroel.
I accept your opinion as valid but I strongly disagree with you from my own knowledge and experience. I accept that maybe I am just being naive. But I don’t think so.
Avram in MD:
I never realized it but those first two are so true.
MDG
I don’t disagree with you per se, but there is a little red sefer called Mitzvos HaBitachon. It is more or less a likut from all over the place.
In it he brings how a person who has bitachon will be protected from din based on the pasuk in Tehillim 32:10.
I’m not saying that a person doesn’t need to do at least some type of zecher l’hishtadlus.
SJSinNYC:
The speech is fairly logical and straightforward. In order to disprove it, you would have to introduce some pretty shaky hypotheses including the DH.
I am more familiar with these things than you give me credit for. I’ve found an answer to an ancient Greek dilemma that can’t be answered with the theologies of other religions. And this only makes sense because Judaism is true.
The fact that all the monei mitzvos count emunah as one of them, means that every Jew is able to reach emunah.
Devarim 30:11
???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ???? ??????? ????? ??????? ????
Obviously their nisayon is in emunah whereas mine is not and that itself makes it more difficult for me to understand them. But all nisyonos are able to be overcome. This is no exception.