Derech HaMelech

Midwest:

Going into a movie theater to watch a movie about penguins would be the same thing as going into a non-kosher restaurant and buying a soda:

The people seeing you walking into the non-kosher restaurant/movie theater don’t know what your going to be doing in there- they just know there’s a lot of stuff there that they shouldn’t expect a ben Torah to eat/see.

Listen Chavereim, Torah does not forbid you from watching a screenplay. Torah forbids you from acting like a buffoon.

The Yalkut in Shemos 1 says (among other reasons) that the problem the Egyptians had with us is that we filled their theaters and circuses. This is the first step in assimilation and it was only shevet Levi who did not go to these things, that were saved from the years of servitude.

There is no illicit problem going to a movie unless say it is say Adult Rated.

Actually there can still be problems of isurei histaklus and ri’iyah. And lets be honest. Its more than just likely.

Personally I felt that cinema was a good way for children to learn about the world when used in an intelligent fashion.

Is this as opposed to the Torah which you are saying would not have been an optimal way to teach children about the world despite Ben Bag Bag who says that everything is in it?

Can you imagine not being able to see say Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark or Schindlers List?

Very easily. And from what I’ve heard, at least Schindler’s List was not entirely appropriate for a Jew to be watching.

I am a modern orthodox jew and I will not kow tow to a philosophy which states that this “secular” is antithecial to Israel. It is not and it in fact educates us as well. I will beat this to death as long as I exist.

I don’t think anyone is telling you to kowtow to anyone. But your opinion might not be entirely based on halacha. In which case, you may want to ask yourself is Hashem is asking of you to kowtow to his Law.

what you do and see will either improve or corrupt you and then you can take your Torah Skills to the test and figure out what you are made of and what you want to be in life.

It sounds as though you are suggesting that people test themselves in what they can handle secularly speaking. Are you sure that it is OK to test yourself in this way?

That is more intense and stronger than avoiding a theatre where the cinema plays for the rest of your lives.

What exactly is the problem with avoiding a theater for the rest of our lives? Would you not avoid a non-kosher restaurant your whole life or would you say that its better to go into the non-kosher restaurant and order a drink rather than avoid it?

I urge you to research the halachos of histaklus and r’iyah before writing such strongly worded statements about what the Torah allows or forbids.

I assumed that we were talking about someone who the only way to discern that he is Jewish is through his yarmulke.

Obviously going into the theater with a beard, peyos and langa rekel, but with a baseball cap on, isn’t going to really accomplish much.

I think in the time of Rav Moshe the movies weren’t as bad as they are today and it was a lot more acceptable (although not entirely) to go to see a movie.

Nowadays though, the Chilul Hashem of walking into a movie theater probably outweighs the halacha of wearing a yarmulke.

That’s what I would say.

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Oohh. I missed that. I’m sorry. In that case I don’t know. I’m pretty sure they sell it in the frum chain-stores, like Rami Levi. That would suggest that it has some sort of hechser on it. But I can’t say for certain.

How does it make it okay just because they sell it in Israel???

How does what make what okay? Your question was if it came from Germany and I said it looks like it does. I don’t know what the hechser is because I never bought it. I just know that they sell it all over the place.

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It would be incredible if someone could make a transcription of this.

I don’t know what an unblech is. I’m also not your Rov, so it might be prudent to speak to your Rov before making such a decision.

Is your belief founded on solid evidence or is this emunah peshutah.

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Like everything else in parenting, I don’t think that there is a one size fits all kids here. you need to know your kids and you need to know your neighborhood.

This is what I told my mother.

I don’t think that voting for Obama is one of the three simanim of a shota. Maybe it should have been, but I don’t think it is.

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Maybe a kohein gadol on yom kippur is different because he’s coming out of the kodesh kedoshim? It could be that there’s a difference between putting your back to the outside of the heichal and coming out of the heichal backwards.

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The requirements of the Torah can be found in Parshas Ki Seitzei (Devarim 21:10-14). The gemara in kiddushin 21b-22a explains a bit more as well.

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I don’t think pba is 80, however I am pretty sure pba is a mod (I have a slight proof).

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At my wedding I asked for a female video-lady for the women’s section.

She brought along a guy to help her with the equipment.

You just can’t win all the battles.

Where is that wascilly wabbit anyway?

I don’t think deiye was answering the question. He was bringing how Rashi explains the shaila of ???? ??????, which was:

Why did Rav Yaakov say he has to ‘pay chetzi nezek” instead of just saying that he’s ‘chayav’.

It doesn’t speak about the hava amina of the gemarah that Rav Yaakov should have to pay chetzi nezek at all.

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Can you give ?”? for your two kashyas?

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I’m sorry for derailing the thread. That shtickel gemarah always sits in my pocket and since I had a reason to take it out I thought I may as well ask.

I will rerail the thread from where it left off.

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