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June 26, 2013 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm in reply to: Meet Cindy�R. Shafran on the Israel draft situation #962287derbtzinMember
A) R. Shafran is not making a case for Chareidim. He is making a case for community support of the poor from all religions, races, creeds, colors and genders. Let’s not misrepresent his intents.
B) A mother has every natural right to be a stay-at-home mother. Blazes, we should support moms staying at home and being with their children providing a loving, nurturing, wholesome upbringing. We certainly should not reduce benefits to the poor to discourage stay at home moms! Staying at home is the most natural thing for a mom to do for her kids.
C) I agree with you that “single motherhood” is an unnatural and undesirable situation that should not be encouraged and should not have even been used as an example by R. Shafran.
D) The Charadim are not “poor by choice”. And it is most unfortunate that you perpetuate that libel by even referencing that idea. Since you are speaking of the situation in Israel, it must be stated that they are given the unpalatable options of either joining an army they are theologically opposed to or being barred from legally working. They will not surrender their religious principles against joining the military there. The solution is to allow them to work before age 26.
derbtzinMemberthe issue of Askanim
Askanim are a very good thing. Folks that don’t like what the Rabbonim and Gedolim say blame it on the “askanim” since they are embarrassed to admit they are against the rabbonim/gedolim.
Askanim manipulate people to serve their own ideals. They are even able to manipulate Rabbonim these days.
Baloney. You just don’t like what the rabbonim tell you and need and excuse to disregard it. The askanim are a convenient target.
How many times does a psak come out, only for us to hear a few days later that the Rav was told incomplete information from some askan?
It happens excruciatingly rarely.
It happened a few years ago with the concert fiasco. R’ Shmuel Kaminetsky said after the fact that it was a mistake, and the letter was signed due to pressure from an askan.
That is incorrect. The signatories never retracted and they stood by their original ban and statement. And Rav Shmuel never said what you misquote him with.
whose parents were askanim
Please define who you see as these mightly scary behind-the-scenes conspiracy causing “askanim”. Who are they, what are they, how does one become one and how do you know who is one of these scary monsters?
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