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Ok, you got the 2nd one. What about the first one?
Is Anyone going to try and answer the two I posted? I’ll give hints:
The first one is from a popular choir
You’ll have to reach out to get the 2nd one.
I don’t think anything about people based on what kind of kippah they wear.
My uncle happens to wear a black knitted kippah. He also wears a black hat when davening, and gives a daf yomi shiur every day. He’s finished Shas 3 times through Daf Yomi, and reviews it regularly. I’d say he’s a good Jew, and leave it at that.
just a member: Actually, Chassidus was the response to many Jews discontinuance of practicing Judaism.
Modern Orthodoxy was not a new movement. It just had a name given to it after years of being around. Were/are there people who didn’t/don’t follow halacha? Yes, just as there are among the chareidim, chassidim, sefardim, and every other group. There will always be people who don’t feel like doing what is right. Still, the basic beliefs of Modern Orthodoxy are closest to how Judaism was practiced for centuries.
Torah613Torah: I know plenty of people who think all Jews are either Satmar or not religious. Most of them live in either Kiryas Joel or Williamsburg.
As for differences between groups of Jews, I think that Modern Orthodox has the closest to the way Judaism has been practiced for thousands of years. Chassidus is a relatively new invention. The Besht felt that the common Jew needed a different way to serve Hashem, and so he created chassidus. It was not our mesorah to do things that way, the Besht just felt it was either that or lose all the common people.
The yeshivish mentality as it exists today is also a new derech. The Chazon Ish said after the Holocaust that people should be pushed to sit and learn in kollel, in order to try and replace the Rabbonim who were killed by the Nazis yemach sh’mom. He said this should be for 3 generations. Again, it was a new thing, not our mesorah, and was done because he felt the times needed it.
Modern Orthodoxy is called Modern because it deals with how halacha applies in the modern world – where the Shulchan Aruch and Mishna Brurah don’t tell us what to do, because the circumstances didn’t exist yet at those times. Jews going out to work and learning in the evenings, or going to a gemara (daf yomi?) shiur early in the morning, is how it was done for centuries.
“END THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW”
Agreed. Mods?
I’m davening that chareidim in EY stop lighting garbage cans on fire, stop throwing rocks at people, stop stealing money from the government, and stop calling secular Jews names like “Nazi”.
They brought this on themselves.
Yes yekke2 is correct! I have two others out there:
“Why oh why does this happen
In a world so advanced?”
“Tears for the wall, so wantonly crumbled
The house of Hashem still humbled”
I’m not sure on the first one if I have the lyrics exactly correct – it’s not entirely clear what the words are, and there was no lyrics sheet with the album. The 2nd line might be “The world’s so advanced”.
Shraga18: I have it, and can transfer it to mp3. If you email Feif Un (he mentions where you can find his email above), I can give it to him to email back to you.
It will have to wait a bit, as I hold of the 2nd half of sefirah, and try not to work with music now, as it often entails playing it.
DaasYochid, I looked through the thread, and you always used to get the tough ones… I’m disappointed in you! Here’s one more that you should know:
“Tears for the wall, so wantonly crumbled
The house of Hashem still humbled”
Did anyone confirm that this was a real letter? From what I’ve heard, it wasn’t on a school stationary, it was just a typed letter sent to people. Did anyone sign their name to it?
He didn’t ask.
Here’s some more lyrics:
“Why oh why does this happen
In a world so advanced?”
So does anyone know the song I quoted lyrics from?
“Wandering and searching, a girl lone and frightened
The echo of her footsteps, tales of days of yore”
You sent them to Feif Un 🙂
I actually have them already.
DaasYochid, he wasn’t the one naming the songs – I was 🙂 I fed him the answers.
Here’s a tougher one:
“Wandering and searching, a girl lone and frightened
The echo of her footsteps, tales of days of yore”
DaasYochid: Isn’t that from Megama, Sukkos in Jerusalem?
Yup, that’s me 🙂
Let’s resurrect this thread!
“There’s a feeling in the air when Neilah is near”
2smart4u: Welcome to the CR! I agree with most of what you said (at least if I understood it correctly). I’ve had this discussion with others before, and unfortunately, you will never win this argument. Our observations don’t matter – all you’ll hear back is, “But Da’as Torah said differently from you! Do you think you know better than da’as Torah?”
In this case, yes, I think I do know better. I’ve gone through all the temptations, slipped up for a while, and found my way back. I understand it much better than most Rabbonim. They never went through this, so they don’t know what goes through our heads.
Where’s the pizza? All yearbook meetings need pizza!
I don’t think it’s a copyright violation – first off, I don’t think there’s a copyright on it. Second, even if it does have a copyright on it, quoting the lyrics for the purpose of this thread should fall under fair use.
Copyright is automatic–you don’t need to affirmatively claim it or register it. Quoting something in its entirety is much less likely to be fair use, and I’m not expert enough to know how to apply fair use. So we’ll just stay away from copyrighted materials.
edited for copyright violation
Darchei Torah in Far Rockaway
Kiddush clubs usually refer to people who leave either by leining or by the Rabbi’s speech to drink. I honestly don’t know of any shuls who do this.
My shul has a kiddush every week, after davening. Sometimes there’s alcohol, sometimes there isn’t. Does this qualify as a kiddush club in your mind?
Even if I decided I didn’t want to be MO anymore (which I don’t see happening), I DEFINITELY would not want to be like Popa.
ShalomToYOu: Very often, the tuition charged is not enough to cover the costs of the yeshiva. They fund raise to keep the tuition from rising to levels that are really crazy.
DaasYochid: I don’t think he’s trying to turn them into tzaddikim. I think he needs to turn himself into one. His comment that children would starve was wrong. Their fate was not sealed. Hashem will take care of them.
DaasYochid: Yes, I do. But I am aware that Hashem got me my job. I am not wealthy – not by a long shot. When I got my tuition bill, I didn’t tell the school that my kids would starve. I said to my wife, “Hashem has always given us what we need, and He’ll give us the money to pay this as well!” 3 weeks later, I got promoted at work, and got a salary increase. Not enough to pay the full tuition, but enough for a decent chunk of it. Hashem gives us what we need. The kids won’t starve because of the government. If they’re meant to starve, all the money won’t help them.
So he feels the money comes from the government, and that Hashem isn’t capable of feeding these children without using the government? What an apikores!
I’ll do the Found in His/Her Locker page!
You only say the bracha on a king who has absolute power – such as the power to sentence someone to death on a whim. Since Obama does not have that power, you don’t say that bracha.
The proper bracha should be, “May God bless and keep Obama… far away from us!”
I think I’m going to try and get a shawarma tonight. It’s similar to how the korban Pesach was eaten, so it’s real Jewish food.
Mine is the Yarden Frozen Heights wine, made from frozen Gewurztraminer grapes.