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DaMosheParticipant
moeisrael: Why must you put up these ridiculous comparisons, which can only lead to lashon hara? Yair Lapid doesn’t care if chareidim want to sit and learn – he just doesn’t want to have to pay for it. Balak wanted to get rid of the Jews. He tried to get them to sin in order to do so – kind of what you’re doing here by starting a conversation that can only lead to lashon hara and sinas chinam.
DaMosheParticipantbatseven: So it’s ok to plaster their names all over the front of the yeshiva buildings and honor them at dinners for their donations, but it’s not ok to post the names here?
DaMosheParticipantThe Lowinger family has helped build many yeshivos. Mesivta Chaim Shlomo (part of Darchei Torah) in Far Rockaway was built by a Lowinger. I believe Torah Temimah has a Lowinger’s name on the building.
There’s also a well known yeshiva in Brooklyn which has a very wealthy benefactor, but unfortunately, he wasn’t always honest about paying employees – mainly one, who went to Beis Din over it. The benefactor (who is employed by the yeshiva) refused to respond to the hazmanah (along with the Rosh Yeshiva).
DaMosheParticipantYes, I believe R’ Elchonon’s yartzeit was yesterday. Just another reason why I quoted him on Shabbos.
I left out something else I said:
“There’s a story with the Ponovizher Rav. He was in Rome, and went to see the Arch of Titus. He looked at the arch, and shook his fist at it. He yelled, ‘Titus! Here I am! Where are you, Titus? Your Roman empire is gone! But I am here. The Jewish nation is growing, and thriving! We are learning Torah! You tried to destroy us, yet here I am – and you are gone!’
On the yartzeit of my family, I say, ‘Hitler! Where are you? Your 3rd Reich is gone! You may have killed my family, but I’m still here, sharing divrei Torah! Jews are thriving all over the world, and not only that, there’s even a Jewish state again! You tried to destroy us, but here we are – and you are gone!”
DaMosheParticipantNow let’s get back to the RCA and Chacham Ovadia.
popa, do you still shudder about the RCA, having decided to be dan l’kaf zchus that the letter referred to those who assaulted the Rav at the wedding, and not Chacham Ovadia?
Mods, do you still think it was a chutzpa, or did you come around to that way of thinking as well?
And what about the member of the Moetzes who can’t win in Beis Din because he’s a lo tzais dina?
DaMosheParticipantHere’s another one:
Somewhere there’s a garden
Where the sun shines every day
It’s not too far
From where we are
DaMosheParticipantIt’s from Or Chodosh – My Yaytzer Horah Says
DaMosheParticipantHaKatan: Thank you for backing me up on that interpretation!
Why can’t others be melamed zchus and assume that’s what it meant? Are you so eager to bash a mostly Modern Orthodox organization? Mods, why do you allow it?
DaMosheParticipantDaasYochid, that’s RABBI Tendler to you! R’ Moshe obviously disagreed with you, as he wrote very highly of his son-in-law. Either way, it’s not for you to decide who’s a legitimate Rav and who’s not. I don’t think very highly of Satmar (in case some people here haven’t noticed), does that give me the right to start insulting the warring Rebbes or R’ Yoel?
DaMosheParticipantI’m not a huge fan of the current Jewish music. I like the old school stuff a lot more.
DaMosheParticipantI’m going to give DaasYochid one more chance, because he should definitely know the song. It’s from a singer I’ve quoted from before.
DaMosheParticipantbump!
So kkls45, what song is it from?
DaMosheParticipantSam2: I think that EVERY Rav has an obligation to say something if he feels it is halachically necessary, no matter how big or small he may be. A Rav also has a responsibility to know when he needs to ask another Rav for a second opinion.
As I said before, I think the letter was ambiguously worded, and I think everyone is reading it in a way it wasn’t intended. I wonder if a chareidi Rabbi wrote such a letter, would they be jumping to attack him, or would they try and find a limud zchus, such as reading the letter the way I did?
DaMosheParticipantFirst of all, the letter was never meant to be public. It was leaked by someone. Second, I understood the letter a bit differently.
I thought this part:
“Is this Torah and these are its scholars? Woe is to he who learned Torah, woe is to his father who taught him Torah, woe is to his rebbe who taught him Torah. See how crooked are his actions and how ugly are his ways.”
referred to the people who assaulted Rav Stav at the wedding. Yes, woe to the teacher, because when a Rebbe hears that his talmud, who he tried to guide in the proper derech, did such a thing, he should be mourning these actions! Yes, they trembled to hear the words of Chacham Ovadia shlita. But the 2nd half was about the people who went completely against halachah and assaulted a great Rav. Chacham Ovadia never would have approved such an action! Woe to the Rebbe who hears of his talmidim doing such a thing!
DaMosheParticipantkkls45: I don’t know that one, where is it from?
I also have one out there which nobody got yet:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
DaMosheParticipantYesterday was the yartzeit again. My grandmother gave me an awesome responsibility. A few years ago, I helped her submit the names of her family to Yad Vashem, for their database of names. My grandmother is not a young person anymore, and she realized that she’s starting to get a bit forgetful. She asked me to ensure that her family is not forgotten.
I spoke on Shabbos in my shul between Mincha and Maariv about the yartzeit. In last week’s Pirkei Avos (the 5th perek), the Mishna says that there were 10 generations between Noach and Avraham to show us how patient Hashem is. The generations angered him, until Avraham came, and received the schar for all of them.
I thought of a pshat in that which I hadn’t seen anywhere else. On Rosh Hashana, we know that everyone is judged – even the souls of those who already passed away. Why? Because they left an impact on this world. If someone got others to do mitzvos, and they continue doing them after he’s gone, he can still receive a reward for every mitzva they do. On the flip side, if someone drives someone away from Torah, even after he’s gone, he can be punished for every aveirah his “student” does.
One of the main things in Judaism is our mesorah. It gets passed from parent to child, teacher to student. Noach was a tzaddik, and through the 10 generations after him, the mesorah should have been passed down. When a parent teaches his child, the parent can receive a reward for the mitzvos the child does. However, between Noach and Avraham, the people left the proper path, and ignored the mesorah. Avraham started it again. Therefore, he got the schar for all the generations – he gets schar for each generation after him, and doesn’t have to share it with those before him.
My grandmother told me that her father was not a learned man. World War 1 forced him out of cheder. Yet, it didn’t affect his Judaism. He didn’t learn the Torah and halachos – he lived them! He knew all the halachos because his parents had taught them to him by the way they lived. My grandmother said she had never heard of the Shulchan Aruch until she came to the US, after the war. Her parents were a living Shulchan Aruch! This passing of the mesorah is why we have endured through all the ages, through all the sorrows, and keep our faith strong.
As R’ Elchanan Wasserman hy”d said to his students, “We are to be a korbon for the Jewish nation. With fire the Beis Hamikdash was destroyed, and with fire it will be rebuilt. From our ashes, the Beis Hamikdash will be built again!” May the merit of my great-grandparents and great-aunts & uncles, along with all the others who died al kiddush Hashem, cause Mashiach to come speedily, in our days.
Hashem yinakem damam.
DaMosheParticipantYou’re probably better off getting the basic model as opposed to one of the fancy electronic ones – many Rabbonim hold you can use them on Shabbos!
DaMosheParticipanttzaddiq: According to Wikipedia, his mother was Scots-Irish, with some French Norman. It also says this:
According to a third cousin of Presley’s, one of Gladys’s great-grandmothers was Jewish. There is no evidence that Presley or his mother shared this belief in a Jewish heritage. Syndicated columnist Nate Bloom has challenged the cousin’s account, which he calls a “tall tale”.
DaMosheParticipantI don’t know about that one, but Pizza Crave in Teaneck makes a great white sauce for their Garlic Knot Slice. I think I know how to replicate it:
Mayonnaise
sugar
vinegar
water
garlic
DaMosheParticipantThere have been plenty of Jewish athletes:
Sandy Koufax
Hank Greenberg
Ike Davis (mother is Jewish, father is not)
Shawn Green
Kevin Youkilis
DaMosheParticipantIt depends if I have a plain slice or one with toppings. If it’s plain, then yes, I fold it. If there are toppings, I find that folding it makes the toppings fall off, so I keep it straight.
DaMosheParticipantLook into Darchei Torah in Far Rockaway. Rabbi Bender is second to none!
DaMosheParticipantDaasYochid, I’m surprised you’re not getting “Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3″… the singer is one you’d definitely know.
DaMosheParticipantFeif Un posted his email address in another thread. Seek and you shall find!
DaMosheParticipantMods, I have a message for you from Feif Un (he said it to me, so it might not be word-for-word):
“So they didn’t post my thread? That’s why I wasn’t sure about coming back. Things haven’t changed. If it was about a Modern Orthodox Rav, they’d have no problem posting it, but God forbid you should say something about a chassidic group even when they insult the biggest chareidi Rabbonim.”
If Feif Un had posted it himself, would you have posted it?
I emailed feif about it.
Also, I would not have allowed that up about any MO rav.
Also, what is the point here? Feif wants us to post things like that about MO rabbonim and also about chassidim? I would hope he would not want us to post conclusory accusations like that about anyone.
DaMosheParticipantFeif Un is a friend and co-worker of mine. He was one of the original posters here on the CR, from when it first opened. He left about 7 months ago because he was fed up with the attacks against Modern Orthodoxy. The thread that drove him away was found to be from another alt of Joseph’s, who had claimed he’d drive Feif Un crazy until he left. For the most part, Feif Un was a pretty well-liked poster here. When he announced he was leaving, a mod wrote this:
“Good bye; we’ll miss you. We appreciate the diversity of ideas you bring.”
I always tell him he should come back and stand up for what’s right. He’s a better writer than I am, so he’d do a much better job representing Modern Orthodoxy than me.
DaMosheParticipantToi: Wrong!
kkls45: Is it from a women’s singing group? It doesn’t sound familiar, and before I start looking into it, I want to be sure it’s a song I’d be listening to.
DaMosheParticipantStill nobody got “Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
Shopping613, first of all, which song exactly is it that you want? As I said, you can email Feif Un. We work together, and he can forward it to me. He posted an anonymous email address of his once on the CR. Search and you shall find!
DaMosheParticipantkkls45: Ride the Waves from the NY Boys Choir
DaMosheParticipantHe’s a guy who used to post here. He left because he was sick of the bias against Modern Orthodox Jews. You can read the thread that drove him to leave here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/shocking-study-of-modern-orthodox-otd-rate
He used to post quite a bit in this thread (although it was mostly me feeding him songs). We also work together.
I looked at that thread, and I see the OP in it was Joseph. I know that Joseph has contacted Feif Un outside of the CR before, and told him he was going to drive him so crazy he’d leave. I don’t think Feif Un would want Joseph to have that satisfaction, so I’ll ask him again to return when I see him tomorrow.
DaMosheParticipantwritersoul: Yes, you broke with TRADITION with those words. IF I WERE A RICH MAN, I’d buy this site and ban you for that! But MIRACLE OF MIRACLES, I’m not, so you’re safe. I have to go now – it’s almost sunrise. Did I say sunrise? I meant sunset. SUNRISE, SUNSET, almost the same thing. It’s almost time for my SABBATH PRAYER. So have a good Shabbos, and don’ forget to make a L’chaim – TO LIFE!
DaMosheParticipantFeif Un once posted a story about his brother, who wanted to sit and learn, and asked R’ Chaim Segal zt”l (from Chaim Berlin) if he could stop attending secular studies (this was in 11th grade). R’ Segal refused to allow it.
My younger brother also attended Chaim Berlin, although R’ Segal was no longer alive. He also asked about stopping secular studies, and R’ Braunstein refused to allow him to drop out. He told him that he needed a high school diploma.
DaMosheParticipantHave someone take a magic marker (although not a red one, as everyone knows red is not tznius) and color over the parts that are objectionable.
DaMosheParticipantI don’t have that song on mp3, I’ll have to convert it. You can email Feif Un, and he’ll get you in touch with me.
DaMosheParticipantWhen it comes to this subject, I think girls are full of themselves. You think guys can’t control themselves around you? Guess what – not all of you are that great! When people are dating, one of the things you look for is a physical attraction. Not every girl is attractive to every guy!
Have I ever seen an attractive girl and had an improper thought cross my mind? Yes. Do I act on these thoughts? No! Guess what? Despite all the people telling you boys can’t control themselves, I CONTROL MYSELF!!!
But as far as you saying that guys only think about one thing – you’re wrong! As I said, I don’t think every single girl is attractive. Don’t flatter yourself by thinking that I’d have the thoughts if I saw you. Most of the time, I probably wouldn’t. It’s pure ego on a girl’s part to think every guy wants her.
DaMosheParticipantI had the Amudai Shaish album when I was a kid. It’s a bit of a laugh. Some of the songs are kind of silly, with funny words and weird voices singing (I think Shema B’ni had someone with a Tuki voice singing).
DaMosheParticipantSo this is still out there:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
DaMosheParticipantIt’s from the Amudai Shaish Boys Choir. In the late 80s (I think maybe 88?) they put out a double album which didn’t have any title to it – it just said Amudai Shaish Boys Choir on the front. The song is titled Our Gedolim.
DaMosheParticipantHow about this one:
“Watch Johnny Carson, and then there’s a movie till 3”
The one I posted 2 days ago is still out there. I posted 2 lines from it:
“And for the few who are still here, we must cherish every dear”
“But now they’re gone, and left are just a few, to guide us as a Jew”
I also said it’s from a coir, and came out in the late 80s.
DaMosheParticipantwritersoul: I thought I recognized that (my Yiddish isn’t very good!), so I double checked – and I was right!
Un vos iz besser fun dem cholent un dem fish?
Alleh Yidden! Zayt tzufriden! from Or Chodosh
DaMosheParticipantmitzvahgirl613: 8th Day, Harmony
DaMosheParticipantDaasYochid: Here are some more lyrics from the song:
“But now they’re gone, and left are just a few, to guide us as a Jew”
Whoever wrote the words to the song had horrible grammar…
DaMosheParticipanthaifagirl: Because most “Jewish” music these days is garbage, and can’t compare in quality to non-Jewish music. Most Jewish singers try to cope the style of non-Jewish music, but don’t do a very good job of it.
DaMosheParticipantThanks, I got the song.
Did you figure out the other one I posted earlier?
DaMosheParticipantI have the one from Megama at home (I recently got ahold of it, but haven’t had the chance to listen to it yet). Do you have an earlier version? If you do, can you email it to Feif Un? He’ll pass it on to me.
DaMosheParticipantThe chorus goes like this:
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
Double, double, triple pay, won’t make me work on Saturday
Ain’t gonna work on Saturday
It’s Shabbos Kodesh
DaMosheParticipantDid you mean “Double, double, triple pay, won’t make me work on Saturday”, from Megama, later from Uncle Moishy?
DaMosheParticipantShopping613, the main rule in this game is to get the lyrics right!
DaMosheParticipantOk… another choir. The song came out in the late 80s.
DaMosheParticipantCorrect, DaasYochid! Here’s another tough one:
And for the few who are still here, we must cherish every dear
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