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Not all Sephardim. Only (a) specific group(s) which had a problem with fake conversions for marriage and felt the need to make a takanah.
Of course, the Torah didn’t state what happens if the first husband dies simply because it would be very difficult for him to remarry her after he dies. 🙂
It would also be difficult for him to marry his ex-wife after she died. That was my point when I wrote maybe that’s only before they died.
if it wasn’t a problem till now
Who says it wasn’t a problem until now; maybe we just didn’t know?
Shmuel, you must spend more time in Starbucks than popa if you’re so worked up about this! 🙂
Did you reboot (shut down and restart)? If you did, and that didn’t help, you might want to try system restore. Also try a virus scan (although I hope it’s not that).
popa,
You must work for the cRc.
http://www.crcweb.org/starbucks_list.php
Chicago Rabbinical Council
Guide to Starbucks Beverages
February 2011
Starbucks shops serve many kosher and non-kosher items, with the most
serious non-kosher item being hot meat sandwiches. The standard daily
clean up at Starbucks includes a hot wash of all utensils and some
parts of that washing are done without soap. This clean up process
significantly challenges the kosher status of the otherwise kosher
products and each product must be judged by a competent halachic
authority. The cRc will be printing a detailed review and analysis of
this topic in the upcoming edition of The Journal of Halacha and
Contemporary Society, and that article will subsequently be available
on the cRc website.
The good news is that there are many Starbucks locations that do not
serve hot meat sandwiches. These are generally the Starbucks kiosks
that can be found in airports, department stores, supermarkets, etc.,
and at these locations the cRc is comfortable recommending any drink
made from kosher ingredients (even though some others use ingredients
that may not be kosher).
This list is accurate at this time for stores in the United States,
and does not address toppings and other items added to beverages.
Since the information on this list is subject to change, this list
should not be used after June 30, 2011.
Note: I just tried this link and it does not work, but it worked earlier. Strange. This link from Google is also broken.
1. This festival involves Avodah Zarah
2. It took place on Shabbos
3. It took place in Minnesota
4. He is called Mr. Hall
5. Our beloved Charlie hasn’t commented because he’s not as stupid as I am to even address this silly post.
Wow, cs, it must have taken you a half hour to write that post!
2. i thought the halacha is that a woman can never remarry her first husband once she marries someone else. therefore, how can she remarry #1 when moshiach comes?
Good point, but maybe that’s only before they died.
Frankly, I find the fact that I’m being taken to task for simply asking for the name of a sefer before accepting it as authoritative to be very unsettling.
I agree. Health, you may very well be right, but you should find the source. If you remember it, it’s fine for you, but difficult to convince someone else that way.
It’s popa, not you (unless the mods removed the posts where you did it).
I’m trying to have an intelligent conversation. Is this new to you?
In the coffee room? Unfortunately, too rare.
That guy’s not a doctor and not from the Bronx.
I’m not sure either.
MOMof4, that’s called a live-in. Go for it!
Are you sponsoring? I’ll take one also! 🙂
By the way, it’s actually called a shifcha c’naanis.
Charlie says he doesn’t shave. (I have other rayos)
i used to also comment under the name stamagoy. I know thats shocking and treacherous but get over it.
If you used it in the same thread to back up your own opinion, then rather than say “get over it”, say “I’m sorry”. Then most of us can get over it.
If you used it in separate threads (or even in the same thread but on a different topic), then I don’t have a problem with it.
hmmm…
Basically YOU pay what SHE asks or you find someone else.
In my experience, they don’t ask, so you have to know what the going rate is and offer it on your own.
(or even someone else entirely)
That would be nasty.
I think consuming that much coffee is pogem one’s brain.
By the way, with or without the hooves?
Did I write that? What am I talking about?
No, that must have been mod 80.
There is a big difference between the generation growing up now and my generation when we were younger.
Unfortunately, you’re right. I tried to be dan l’caf z’chus that her rant was not directly aimed at anyone, but rather venting her frustration. But this last jab changed my mind. And her claiming that she was kidding seems like backtracking. I know I should again be dan l’caf z’chus, but how far can credibility be stretched?
Imaofthree,
Royal, boiled in foil pan in the oven.
The Goq,
57; gematria ????. (And Heinz varieties)
popa bar abba.
I agree.
I also think that what shlishi said is right, that unfortunately some people who seem to excel at bain adam l’makom neglect bain adam l’chaveiro, and this gives fodder to those who do the reverse to expand it to an entire group. It’s a kind of defense mechanism.
Regarding treating all human beings with respect, I know of a certain rosh hayeshiva, a gadol, who complimented the janitor, while not in his presence. One of his talmidim asked why it’s not lo s’chaneim, to which he responded that one must always speak positively, to train ourselves to be positive. Otherwise a negative attitude will come out at the wrong time.
Rezdy,
I tried defending you on the other thread, but this is just not nice.
Please tell me that I misunderstood you.
You think all goyim worship stars?
You forgot constellations.
But to post a blog about how “u can’t see how anyone can eat at starbucks is wrong.
Why is he any less entitled to express his opinion than you? He’s not physically picking anyone up and bodily removing them from Starbucks (at least I don’t think so; walking in would be maris ayin 😉 )
rabbiofberlin,
thank you-daas yochid- this is exactly what i meant ! You are always “on the money’ in all issues that you are discussing.
I’ll take that as a big compliment, especially since we have not always shared the same opinion; thank you.
By the way- on a personal level, I have never seen any “treif’ sandwiches in a starbucks. Maybe chicago is different. In any case, there would be a million “tsedoddim lehetter” not least the fact that the vast majority of utensils are washed with soap (I can’t even imagine not using soap)that gives it the “nossen taam lifgam”.
I have no idea personally; I don’t frequent Starbucks myself. The cRc does point out that the issue is not in all Starbucks locations. It would be surprising if they don’t use soap, but you never know, maybe the commercial dishwashers are different, or some of the utensils would get ruined by soap (these are total conjecture). I personally have no idea, but I have no reason to think that the cRc is fabricating this.
MDG,
I assume you mean ?????? from ??? ? and I understand why, but I don’t think anyone had an agenda on this.
There is also a clear ???? in ??”? ?’ ???? ?”?. The key words are:
??? ??????? ??????? ???? ?? ????????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ??????
This clearly implies that if it is not ??? ??? ????? one should be ?????.
DO YOU WANT TO EAT A PIG?
Yes, but the Torah doesn’t allow me.
THE HOOFS? THE SNOUT? THE TUSHES? THE ESOPHAGUS?
No
why dont you all wait to see what they have to say?
Because we’re bored now.
Actually, shlishi is right. There’s a concern of issur, so we should wait it out until the dust clears, and if it turns out it’s, fine, go back to using it.
They wouldn’t serve fake cheese- that would be maris ayin. They are shkutzim, but they’re not that bad.
Their rov might hold fake cheese is not maris ayin.
Aries,
I think most teenage girls (at least in my circles) are uncomfortable asking for money. It’s up to the children’s parents to either ask how much she takes (in which case she may still feel uncomfortable) or find out the going rate and do the proper thing.
popa,
That Bacon, Gouda Cheese & Egg Frittata on Artisan Roll looks really good.
Is that real cheese or fake?
deleting vs closing has nothing to do with the time it takes.
sometimes a thread was bad from the beginning—deleted
sometimes a thread has turned or is turning bad (remember you dont see all the deleted posts)—closed
I meant closing vs. deleting offending posts but leaving the thread open.
MDG,
If you read through my posts, you’ll find that I demonstrated that it’s obvious even in the teshuvos in Igros that R’ Moshe meant for the p’sak to be applied b’shaas had’chak.
I am familiar with R’ Forst, and I highly value his opinion (which might be a chutzpah for me to say, but in context of people who don’t know him, I hope it’s ok).
As I’ve demonstrated and pointed out, if R’ Dovid holds it’s l’chatchila, he’s not disagreeing with R’ Forst, he’s disagreeing with his father. His father clearly held that it’s not. (I use the term “l’chatchila” to mean when there is no “shaas had’chak”.)
BTW, I did hear from someone I know who was in R’ Dovid’s house and he was served only cholov yisroel. He didn’t know if there was also cholov stam in the house.
The end of an era’s arrived,
the coffee room will be deprived.
eclipse will be missing,
we’ll be reminiscing,
about all the threads she contrived.
The time is now opportune,
because she is leaving so soon,
to bid her adieu,
we’re crying, boo hoo,
the clock is about to strike noon!
Your absence will cut like a knife,
we wish you all good things in life.
May harmony and peace,
for you, just increase,
with only success, and no strife.
your wit and your wisdom we’ll miss.
How can we go on;
your laptop is gone!
We all hope that you’ll find real bliss.
We hope that we won’t be maligned,
if we ask one thing, please be kind.
Don’t be a quitter,
won’t you reconsider?
We’d be happy if you’ll change your mind.
DY – Your not sponsoring what? to become a mod?
True, but that’s not what I meant; I meant to pay for the extra time it would take for the already overloaded mods to increase their workload.
Anyone who has ever had coffee at starbucks knows that the coffee is always served in paper cups that are thrown away afterwards. Similarly, they do not use spoons btu plastic stirrers. I am at loss to understand the problem. The coffee machines surely are not washed “together’ with anything.
The cRc is apparently asserting that they do wash some of the coffee making equipment together with other utensils. Here’s the link to the OP.
Note that the terminology is vague; they’re not publicly saying that it’s not kosher, just that there is a serious kashrus concern, so ask a competent posek.
Then what is the point of the cRc? They are saying that people should not drink starbucks because they sell other items… What about 7eleven? The coffee there is kosher but they sell hot dogs and stuff and no one seems to mind… Does this mean that we should not buy anything from a store that sells things that are not kosher? Shouldn’t that be maaras eiyin also?
It seems that the cRc is concerned about a different kashrus issue than maris ayin, that the equipment used to make the coffee is problematic.
There are different opinions about the kashrus of the worms commonly found in fish today. It’s a difficult, somewhat complex issue. Some sable is farmed, which would generally not have worms in it, so you don’t necessarily know if that hechsher has a different opinion than the KCL or if it’s a different type of fish.
Aries,
I agree that Rezdy’s attitude comes across as chutzpah, but try to understand that she does not see any of the people she’s addressing, and is not used to treating a keyboard and screen as a human being.
Regarding another point you made about rates; your neighborhood probably has a much higher going rate than the typical rate in the neighborhoods of the other posters.
I hope you’re feeling ok.
The letter in chelek ches was written to a yeshiva, not for the general public.
It’s not written for a yeshiva, it’s written for a community.
As for a Rav who disagrees with R’ Forst, I already named one – R’ Dovid Feinstein.
You’re switching arguments here. You asserted that R’ Moshe did not intend for that teshuva to be printed, and your proof was that it was not in Igros. I asserted that the essential point was made in Igros as well, and that it is illogical to assume that R’ Moshe wished to “hide” his opinion that one should only rely on his heter b’shaas had’chak. I proved my view by pointing out that R’ Forst, who printed that teshuva, feels that R’ Moshe had no problem with it being publicized. Now you say that R’ Dovid disagrees with R’ Forst. Where is there any sort of evidence that R’ Dovid thinks that this particular teshuva is supposed to be a secret?
rabbiofberlin
and why do you assume that the maaris ayin aspect is less in starbucks than mcdonalds, if both serve treif hot meat sandwiches?
I hope the Rabbi doesn’t mind if I answer for him.
Mcdonalds’ primary business is to sell tarfus, so it’s an issue of maris ayin to go in even to buy a soda or coffee; one would naturally assume that the intent is to buy a hamburger. On the other hand, Starbucks’ main product is coffee, so despite the fact that one can also purchase tarfus, it’s not an issue of maris ayin (assuming the coffee is kosher, obviously).
It’s not appreciably different than walking into an Shoprite to buy kosher food, despite the fact that there is much non-kosher food sold as well.
Uze, Brach.
but Id rather number two
How would you know that if you haven’t met him yet? The grass is always greener…
wolfish
you can only complete the marriage paperwork AFTER the ceremony.
You can have a separate civil ceremony before.
BTW, what’s a wolfish, a canid that swims?
Eliminating UNNECESSARY stress
It also helps to eliminate necessary stress.
The other spouse doesn’t have to attend, of course, but it is only proper to invite them.
I agree. I’ll even take it a step further; when anyone receives an invitation, be grateful that they thought of you, and seriously consider whether or not your presence is really worth your time and their money.