☕ DaasYochid ☕

The guy who eats treif does not have to go to everyone in town and say he’s sorry.

Yes, and I related a possibility as to why that is true.

I think you are right that bein adam l’chaveiro is also bein adam l’makom to a larger degree than the reverse. You seem to agree with my opinion that it’s also true the other way around, but to a lesser extent.

If I’m not mistaken, we’re saying the same thing, but in different words.

Ctrl Alt Del,

I don’t know if you’re still checking for responses, but yes, I’m “uncomfortable with the drinking going on”, and I wasn’t trying to hide it. But your arguments were wrong. My argument is that some people don’t know their limits. But some do, and it’s not for you to decide.

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I have never understood why this “mitzvah” inspires so many to be mekayem it so diligently.

Then you don’t understand human nature.

I have no doubt in my mind that if someone would piously recite tehillim for a choleh instead of drinking himself to oblivion , that ad meah v’esrim, hashem would not hold it against him.

That’s only because you think it’s not a mitzvah. If it’s a mitzvah, then hashem will hold it against you if you don’t do it, even if you are doing another mitzvah.

Its a foolish pursuit. And illegal for anyone under 21 (at least in NY/NJ) to be mekayaim. Its also illegal for anyone to give alcohol to someone who is under 21.

In communist Russia, it was illegal to be mekayayaim the mitzvah of Bris Milah.

Our shuls Rav makes that perfectly clear right after maariv purim night.

There is no mitzvah to get drunk at night.

I am a mandatory reporter and I have, and will continue in the future to report distribution of alcohol to those under 21. Even on purim.

Do you know what the din of a moser is?

Lest anyone think that I am advocating young bochurim getting dangerously drunk, I am not. I am merely pointing out the weakness of these arguments.

Miztvos bein adam l’Makom are ONLY bein adam l’Makom.

Kol Yisroel Areivim Zeh Lozeh. If I am m’challel Shabbos, it negatively affects all Jews; we are part of one entity.

I would say that bein adam l’chaveiro is also bein adam l’makom and bein adam l’makom is also bein adam l’chaveiro. The difference is in a direct sense. The reason we can do teshuva on bein adam l’makom without askind mechila first from every Jew, I suppose, is because to the extent that the teshuva is effective, it removes the harm done to everyone else. It would also otherwise be impossible to do teshuvah on bein adam l’makom.

i may have been born at night…but not last night, of course i rebooted!??!duhhh

Oh, I thought you were an accountant. 🙂

Did you try Aries’ advice? If you need help with it, which OS do you have?

Daas Yochid, if they are “shy” ask them what they normally get paid and they will answer you.

The response is sometimes “I don’t know, whatever”.

Of course, the Torah didn’t state what happens if the first husband dies simply because it would be very difficult for him to remarry her after he dies. 🙂

It would also be difficult for him to marry his ex-wife after she died. That was my point when I wrote maybe that’s only before they died.

Did you reboot (shut down and restart)? If you did, and that didn’t help, you might want to try system restore. Also try a virus scan (although I hope it’s not that).

http://www.crcweb.org/starbucks_list.php

Chicago Rabbinical Council

Guide to Starbucks Beverages

February 2011

Starbucks shops serve many kosher and non-kosher items, with the most

serious non-kosher item being hot meat sandwiches. The standard daily

clean up at Starbucks includes a hot wash of all utensils and some

parts of that washing are done without soap. This clean up process

significantly challenges the kosher status of the otherwise kosher

products and each product must be judged by a competent halachic

authority. The cRc will be printing a detailed review and analysis of

this topic in the upcoming edition of The Journal of Halacha and

Contemporary Society, and that article will subsequently be available

on the cRc website.

The good news is that there are many Starbucks locations that do not

serve hot meat sandwiches. These are generally the Starbucks kiosks

that can be found in airports, department stores, supermarkets, etc.,

and at these locations the cRc is comfortable recommending any drink

made from kosher ingredients (even though some others use ingredients

that may not be kosher).

This list is accurate at this time for stores in the United States,

and does not address toppings and other items added to beverages.

Since the information on this list is subject to change, this list

should not be used after June 30, 2011.

Note: I just tried this link and it does not work, but it worked earlier. Strange. This link from Google is also broken.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=Chicago+Rabbinical+Council+Guide+to+Starbucks+Beverages+February+2011&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS413US413&ie=UTF-8

Wow, cs, it must have taken you a half hour to write that post!

Frankly, I find the fact that I’m being taken to task for simply asking for the name of a sefer before accepting it as authoritative to be very unsettling.

I agree. Health, you may very well be right, but you should find the source. If you remember it, it’s fine for you, but difficult to convince someone else that way.

I’m trying to have an intelligent conversation. Is this new to you?

In the coffee room? Unfortunately, too rare.

I’m not sure either.

Charlie says he doesn’t shave. (I have other rayos)

Basically YOU pay what SHE asks or you find someone else.

In my experience, they don’t ask, so you have to know what the going rate is and offer it on your own.

I think consuming that much coffee is pogem one’s brain.

By the way, with or without the hooves?

There is a big difference between the generation growing up now and my generation when we were younger.

Unfortunately, you’re right. I tried to be dan l’caf z’chus that her rant was not directly aimed at anyone, but rather venting her frustration. But this last jab changed my mind. And her claiming that she was kidding seems like backtracking. I know I should again be dan l’caf z’chus, but how far can credibility be stretched?

popa bar abba.

I agree.

I also think that what shlishi said is right, that unfortunately some people who seem to excel at bain adam l’makom neglect bain adam l’chaveiro, and this gives fodder to those who do the reverse to expand it to an entire group. It’s a kind of defense mechanism.

Regarding treating all human beings with respect, I know of a certain rosh hayeshiva, a gadol, who complimented the janitor, while not in his presence. One of his talmidim asked why it’s not lo s’chaneim, to which he responded that one must always speak positively, to train ourselves to be positive. Otherwise a negative attitude will come out at the wrong time.

You think all goyim worship stars?

You forgot constellations.

rabbiofberlin,

thank you-daas yochid- this is exactly what i meant ! You are always “on the money’ in all issues that you are discussing.

I’ll take that as a big compliment, especially since we have not always shared the same opinion; thank you.

By the way- on a personal level, I have never seen any “treif’ sandwiches in a starbucks. Maybe chicago is different. In any case, there would be a million “tsedoddim lehetter” not least the fact that the vast majority of utensils are washed with soap (I can’t even imagine not using soap)that gives it the “nossen taam lifgam”.

I have no idea personally; I don’t frequent Starbucks myself. The cRc does point out that the issue is not in all Starbucks locations. It would be surprising if they don’t use soap, but you never know, maybe the commercial dishwashers are different, or some of the utensils would get ruined by soap (these are total conjecture). I personally have no idea, but I have no reason to think that the cRc is fabricating this.

DO YOU WANT TO EAT A PIG?

Yes, but the Torah doesn’t allow me.

THE HOOFS? THE SNOUT? THE TUSHES? THE ESOPHAGUS?

No

They wouldn’t serve fake cheese- that would be maris ayin. They are shkutzim, but they’re not that bad.

Their rov might hold fake cheese is not maris ayin.

popa,

That Bacon, Gouda Cheese & Egg Frittata on Artisan Roll looks really good.

Is that real cheese or fake?

MDG,

If you read through my posts, you’ll find that I demonstrated that it’s obvious even in the teshuvos in Igros that R’ Moshe meant for the p’sak to be applied b’shaas had’chak.

I am familiar with R’ Forst, and I highly value his opinion (which might be a chutzpah for me to say, but in context of people who don’t know him, I hope it’s ok).