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a “Like” button doesn’t just tally up how many people agree, but it also shows the names (usernames) of who agrees. And you could only hit it once.

If so, I agree that there is some value to it.

Like when I ruin your jokes, or like my (sincere) compliment?

*don’t like*

Here’s why:

Many of us here in the CR are familiar with each other’s worldviews, so who agrees is more important than how many agree (I’m assuming that a *like* button merely tallies).

I generally won’t post a simple “I agree” or “I disagree” unless I have something to add to the discussion. On most every issue discussed here, a poll is not very important to me; if I hold a certain opinion, telling me that 77% of the people in the CR who chose to vote disagree with me will not change my mind. A thoughtful comment might.

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As an aside, is their any veracity to a *like* button, or can one person hit it multiple times and skew the numbers?

You’re better off not talking to people about who you’re going out with.

s2021,

I hope you took my joke in good humor.

My favorites were always chess and Stratego (does that date me?).

My standards of modesty preclude my having this type of discussion in a public forum.

It has to be at the expense of something else… unless you’re positing two candidates that are otherwise completely equal.

I wouldn’t consider yichus more important than factors such as middos/yiras shamayim (to the contrary; those are certainly more important), but those are often unknown (beyond what’s readily observable), so for practical purposes, the two candidates might be considered completely equal.

If you were deciding between two schools for your child, you would decide based on which school seemed to have a better chance of enabling success for that child. You would consider who the teachers and administrative staff are, as well as the type of students they attract, and of course, the track record each school has with children similar to yours.

However, you would not be certain which school would actually be better; unknown factors, such as how well your child will interact with his/her teachers, principal, and classmates could play into it, but you have no choice other than to decide based on the known.

Even if you don’t consider yichus to be of great importance, at least grant it as a factor. In my above example, you might decide that the schools have equal merit, and the determining factor might end up being something as relatively unimportant as closer proximity or slightly lower tuition.

Oomis,

Aside from the lack of modesty (their standards, not mine) of a woman appearing in a photo, there’s a lack of modesty in a man seeing a photo of a woman (again, their standards, not mine).

Since I don’t personally see any photo of a woman being intrinsically immodest, I actually suspect that an editorial policy of not printing pictures of a woman is not due to the inherent immodesty, rather as a precaution that a mistake not be made and a picture be published should not have been.

If I ran a chareidi paper, I would not publish pictures of women, but not because of the inherent immodesty. I would be afraid that a sponsor would want to advertise with a picture of a woman, for example if a couple was being honored, and the picture would not fit my standards. If I refused to publish it, those donors could easily get insulted. If the policy is to not allow any pictures, then there would be no insult.

Wouldn’t someone want his children to have the z’chus avos of the tzaddikim who were ancestors of his spouse?

Has anyone mentioned z’chus avos?

good try but your defense is flawed.

That’s what happens when I work pro bono.

My defense would have worked if he had said something like “I ate a tuna fish”.

Most people I know don’t eat sweaters, even if they smell like fish.

How much should parents tell their children who are in shidduchim?

When and where the wedding is.

Ramateshkolian , I think I may agree with you and does anyone else have any information similar to what was said by Rav Berkowitz???

Let’s assume that R’ Berkowitz said that milk represents the Torah, so the rule which applies to other Yomim Tovim doesn’t apply to Shavuos. Now, if anyone goes according to the simple understanding, that Shavuos is the same as other Yomim Tovim, it’s “totally based on nothing”?

Anyone who doesn’t follow this little known opinion which deviates from simple understanding (although I’m not c”v belittling it or R’ Berkowitz) must definitely be motivated by sinister motives (trying to do the “frummer” thing, meaning ga’avah)?

Sorry, I most definitely disagree.

If, indeed, the kid willingly and knowingly broke a school rule as important as this, I think we can agree that some punishment is in order. Was there no punishment between “nothing” and “explusion” that could have been applied?

The Wolf

Excellent point, and the answer probably lies in the numerous factors which were not specified in the OP.

Also keep in mind, that with three weeks left to go in the school year (and in this case, until graduation), the students feel like they can get away with anything, so the response might be different than it would be if it had occurred in the middle of 11th grade.

You wont get it back, whats done is done.

I disagree. The highest level of teshuva completely cleanses, and any amount of teshuva cleanses to some degree; the more the teshuva, the more clean.

Time also heals to some extent, if there are no relapses.

OK, let’s play a little. What “severe negative influence” is there to the rest of the class for three weeks, for talking to a neighbor outside school?

I don’t agree with J/P.M. That there’s a direct negative influence, unless the boy talks to his classmates about it (which is possible, since he was in a public place and had no “busha”).

However, if such a public violation of a yeshiva’s standards is allowed to go unpunished, the standard becomes unenforceable.

And, let’s face it, it’s a black eye for the yeshiva (which is why the menahel should not make such a decision unilaterally, since he has “negiyus”).

Just to nitpick (and clarify), I can’t imagine you think that not paying tuition is going against the “Ribono Shel Olam’s rules”.

My post was unclear. I didn’t mean parents who break the rules of paying tuition; I didn’t even mean breaking any rules. I meant to refer to the parents’ motivation for paying tuition, sending to yeshiva, and following the Torah in general.

So, as good parents do, we pay our tuition cuz we have to, we send our kids to yeshiva cuz we have to, and we follow all the rules of society cuz we have to.

The parents who have this attitude are causing problems for their kids.

Parents are much more likely to have nachas from their children if they pay tuition and send their kids to yeshiva because they understand the the importance of a proper Torah chinuch. They are less likely to find their kids breaking the Torah’s rules if they keep those rules themselves, not because we have to follow society’s rules, but because they are the Ribono Shel Olam’s rules (given to us for our benefit), and out sense of gratitude to Him for all He does for us, we wish to and must.

A parent can never spend too-much time with the kids.

I think I’ll quit my job and pull my kids out of school so that I can spend every possible moment with them.

My family members who attend Charedi yeshivas took the RCTS and laughed about what a bittul torah it was

Don’t blame the rest of us for their attitude.

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I got a 93 on Math III (the old system), after spending the whole year standing at the back window and looking outside during class (I was in a fight with the teacher). There wasn’t even anything interesting outside.

Not even a boat?

If you think they need a day off, give it to them. No one should question a parent’s call in a case like this

If they “need a day off”, give it to them now, why wait until next week?

The lesson is FAMILY time is important. It is NOT wrong to teach kids how important it is to spend time together.

Then why the Great Parade during yeshiva hours? Let them go to a park after yeshiva is over and spend time with each other, instead of taking off learning time to spend “quality time” with Uncle Moishy and MBD.

You want every principal to be a gadol hador. So do I, but if we would demand it, we won’t have enough principals.

How do you spell troll?

You should start a separate thread for spelling questions.?

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/menahels-decision-to-expel-a-good-boy#post-247031

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/menahels-decision-to-expel-a-good-boy#post-247052

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/this-weeks-atypical-troll-post#post-247021

I’m not sure how to start a new thread.

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-to-add-a-new-thread