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Coke is NOT a thirst quencher! Neither is beer! BOTH caffeine and alcohol (which I “believe in”)are diuretics- they dehydrate you by drawing water out of your system.
You’re right, but I wasn’t talking from a medical perspective. Wouldn’t it be interesting if regular Coke was prohibited but caffeine free Coke was permitted? ?
My apologies then.
Why? You gave me a smile.
She would definitely not agree to see him again (and might charge him for dry cleaning).
veteran,
That’s why I capitilized. ?
People invite each other for a cup of coffee. The response would not be “I’m not thirsty”. If you offer someone a soda, he might turn you down because he’s not thirsty.
See Igros Moshe O”C 2 – 75
PM,
Coke is a thirst quencher.
As an illustration, some poskim consider coffee to be chamar medinah, but I don’t think anyone says it about Coke.
Shlishi,
I just noticed your post; I think my previous one answers your question.
When I started going out, I asked a rov what type of shailos I should be aware of. I was expecting to hear about yichud issues, but he told me not to buy an alcoholic beverage (with a bit of a twinkle in his eye; he knew I wasn’t the type anyway). He said nothing about soft drinks. My posts here are really just an educated guess as to his reasoning.
apushatayid,
It seems that the main gezeira was indeed to prevent drinking with them but it was enacted in a situation which could come to that; that’s why it’s okay to bring it back to your house, but not to drink it there.
As far as Coke, the poskim argue about whether a non-alcoholic beverage is included (and as pointed out by ravshalom, the R”ma even allows most alcoholic beverages). I think that the only non-alcoholic beverages which might be included are those used socially, such as coffee, but not water or even Coke.
I don’t know. Eeees and I drank on every date that we went on… both before and after we were married.
We’re not discussing soft drinks.
A lounge has the same status as a bar.
The ??”? and ??”? are ?????, and the ?”? writes ?????? ?????. The ???? ??? writes ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ???.
glass is not bolaya.
That’s a machlokes.
Oomis,
Well said; just one nitpick. The fellow who lays tefillin on a cold morning gets MORE s’char – l’fum tza’ara agra – and is less likely to be doing it for selfish reasons.
To clarify:
The S.A. I quoted earlier says that it’s assur to drink an alcoholic beverage at the place of purchase (when purchased from a non-Jew).
The issue which was brought up about the cup is not a problem (regardless of whether it was glass) because the beer is cold. Nevertheless, it is still assur because of the first issue.
She left us? Just like that? No farewell?
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/surprise-goodbye-party-for-myself#post-206012
Hey! That’s my password also!!!
Betcha we all have the same one.
How can you drink from the hotel cup they pour the drink into? The cup may have been used for non-kosher.
It’s cold, but as I posted earlier, it’s nevertheless assur.
What difference does it make?
Temperature
I guess I’m not frum since I was playing backgammon the other day and was sent to the bar.
It’s a good thing you’re not a lawyer.
If you’d be ok with bowling, and ok with beer at bowling,
and ok with violating halacha?
Was it inadvertently showing my disdain for her?
No
I would recommend that you ask a serious shaila about continuing. Although he probably did not realize that it’s assur (S.A. Y.D. 114-1), it seems a pretty crass thing to do on a date.
justlooking,
I suggest that you contact “A Time” and ask if anyone there can refer you to a support group for TS. My guess is that simchas couldn’t send you her (?) email address and was trying to hint to you how you can get in touch.
but isnt it against the torah anyway to eat something raw?
Oh well, no more fruit for me.
As long as there were no evil intentions, every mitzvah gets reward. Obviously, the highest level is to do mitzvos solely to fulfill Hashem’s will, but doing them for reward is also good; most of us probably do that anyway.
True, but a decree is a decree. Im sure many davened and did all the Hishtadlus in many situations (Holocaust for one), and there were Nissim Gluyim, but all in all, what was meant to be, was.
Nobody ever gave any guarantees.
Ok, so what DO the Gedolim offer as advice to prevent kids from going OTD?
Lots of tefillos, lots of love.
truthfully, I felt ostracized since my posts on smoking.
Why, what did you write?
I was kidding. It’s popa_bar_abba.
you need to make sure the a/c has a feature (i don’t remember the exact name) that turns it back on after a power outage.
auto-start?
so now i just have to decide – do i keep my boring sn and (i guess) boring posts? do i change it to a really interesting/strange/eye-opener? or should i just post real controvertial posts? hmmmmm. gotta think about that 😉
What’s wrong with the one you have? I like the name Pac-Man! ?
DY: So look what was different 40 years ago that is no longer true now and was not true in pre-war europe, and you will have your answer.
I think every generation has its’ nisayon and its’ yetzer hara, and every generation has the imperative to withstand that nisayon and yetzer hara. It is a young adult’s obligation to choose the right path, and parents’ and educators’ obligation to make the choice of “uvacharta vachaim” as pleasant and rewarding as possible.
If I had to offer an opinion of today’s nisayon, I would say it’s the double edged sword of the influence of an ever increasingly immoral society (both in middos and kedusha), with the high pressure lifestyles we live which make it very challenging to fortify our children against that influence.
I agree with ICOT, often a post is read and digested, but there’s no need for a response.
Those who didn’t pay their share (obvious).
Fair point. Although a number of school administrators and board members have told me that full tuition is roughly what it costs for one child’s education (fundraising covers those who don’t pay full tuition), surely if people would pay according to their means and not try to get away with as little as possible, full tuition cost could be reduced.
Let’s face it though, that’s not where the anger is directed.
The rest of your post I did not understand.
And it doesnt help when a child decides to wear a blue shirt instead of white, is looked upon like they came from a different plant…
Which plant, k’la ilan? ?
Seriously, I’m sure there are such cases, although I don’t know of any personally. I do know plenty of white shirt parents with blue shirt kids who are very much accepted and loved.
Why does anyone think this is a new phenomenon?
It happened in Europe as well, and in America in previous generations.
We had a relative grace period, b’chasdei Hashem, for a few decades, after WWII, so our generation perceives it as a new phenomenon. It’s also a new yetzer hara, for the street, whereas in Europe the yetzer hasa was for secular “enlightenment” and in America, acceptance into secular society.
actually the crime is the high cost of yeshiva education that forces mothers into the work force to help pay for them….
Who committed this crime?
I agree that for many, the high cost of tuition is a tremendous problem. But I don’t believe that rebbeim and teachers are being overpaid, nor do I think that administrators are pocketing loads of extra money. I think it costs a lot of money to educate a child. It’s a big problem, but not a crime.
Correct, I think the K”Y is going on the tzad that it’s a lav, but I would have to go through it again. I was offering two separate reasons.
BSD – Your welcome! ?
And congats to you, BSD, you’re the new spelling champion! ?
They’re also much more secure. For example, mine is F$@P9(k!F9Ca, which nobody would ever guess.
Yes, but those impossible to remember, hard to type, case sensitive, random letter and number, assigned passwords are more fun! You can save the email it came in and copy and paste from there.
Mishna Berura brings Elya Rabba who is matir a wedding the night of Lag B’omer b’shaas had’chak (such as when L”B falls on a Friday). I believe that the poskim today consider it a sha’as had’chak every year because there are not enough simcha halls for everyone to get married during the day.
Concerning haircuts, although it is intrinsically more lenient, sha’as had’chak does not apply to the same degree.
Regarding a haircut on motzaei Shabbos when L”B is on Sunday, it would seem pashut that since the heter for a haircut on Friday is l’kavod Shabbos, this would not apply to M”S, and it would have the din as any L”B eve. This sevara appears in Halichos Shlomo. It is of interest to note, however, that this sefer quotes RSZA as being matir haircuts on L”B eve even in an ordinary year, reasoning that it’s become somewhat of a yom tov (“They’re dancing in Miron, so you can take a haircut in Yerushalayim”).
I say ba’omer or ?????
That’s okay, you’re yotzei either way. (Or ????) ?
btw pops – it’s ppl like you who can turn ppl off! i am so disgusted by your comments.
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(Wrong thread?)
I’ll darken a different part.
One of her findings is that there is no single all- encompassing reason why observant Jews cease to be so. It can be the coolness of their own observant parents to religion, or the difficulty they have with teachers in school. It can come from their own sense of the religion’s simply ‘not working’ for them. There are many , many reasons. And the author is honest enough to say that she has no formula for any specific case.
Your attitude and the sarcastic attitude of Daas Yochid is what turns people off.
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What’s interesting is that we have a much more positive attitude than all of the negative attitudes expressed here. Rather than bashing everything, I’m saying that things are pretty good. Of course we should try to do even better because every neshama lost is indeed a tragedy (on this we can all agree).
you cannot in a month of sundays show any clear thinking frum yid…
Are all of the schools which have this policy run by people who are not clear thinking? Or perhaps people who aren’t frum?
Or is it possible that even if there is no blatant violation of halacha, there might be a legitimate sensitivity which is shared by many clear thinking frum people?
the reason I want to know about pac-man is because the way he spouts his frumkeit he shouldn’t know from a shtus video game such as pac-man
Okay, but he does. Does that invalidate any arguments he makes?
It always seems the batteries go dead on shabbos
Probably about once every seven times. ?
This doesn’t mean the system isn’t flawed.
Nobody ever said the system is perfect; it can’t be, since human beings are involved. But the wholesale changes which are being recommended (by implication) are likely to make things worse.