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Can anyone tell me about them, based on the sem?
Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.
Will they be outgoing or nebby?
Some might be outgoing, some introverted. You probably shouldn’t think of an introverted girl as nebby.
Also, despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.Are they friendly like out-of-towners or cliquey?
Probably some of each. Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.
Will they be serious learners?
Probably some, not all. Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.
Will they actually be learning the material or memorizing?
Probably some of each. Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same. Anyhow, who cares? Serve them some good cholent and don’t worry about their academics.
What about chesed – do they have a chesed day?
It’s your chessed day, since you’re the host.
What about wearing Gap sweatshirts and flats?
Probably not on Shabbos
Will they look at me if I speak to them?
I guess it depends how creepy you are. The fact that you’re asking these questions isn’t a good sign.
Will they go to shule?
Probably some will and some won’t. Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.
Help with the dishes? What about serving?
It’s your chessed day, not theirs.
do they expect only Badatz hechshirim?
Probably some do and some don’t. Despite being in the same seminary, they’re probably not all the same.
No, b”H, so far nobody’s been arrested for fraud. Be”H it should stay that way.
Who do you want them to do a study for, you? You won’t be satisfied no matter what the results are.
Themselves? They have dozens of studies which according to science are reliable.
I must have said a dozen times a RETROSPECTIVE study – nothing unethical there.
Then it won’t be randomized
it will certainly show who the Rebbe thought he was.
Is there a question?
TT,
Was that supposed to be complimentary to the Rebbe?That’s why I feel like I’m going around in circles.
Because you’re not answering the questions!
You didn’t address my first question at all.
You avoided my second question by questioning the assumption it was based on without actually denying it.
You responded to RSo’s question without addressing his point. He asked how the p’tur can come from the mitzvah itself, and you answered with blankets.
If you don’t want to go in circles, answer the questions.
Who says that we don’t?
Any Lubavicher I’ve asked.
Do you?
And honestly, there’s no honest way someone could look at the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s Sichos over all the years and say “This is someone who disregards Torah, who doesn’t care about Mitzvos, who cancels anything that inconveniences him”.
I don’t recall anyone claiming that he cancelled succah because it’s inconvenient, just that it’s krum.
I don’t find a point in going around in circles. Have you found a source that:
1. Emotional Tzaar isn’t Tzaar. and
2. Tzaar has to be that strong that he will not be able to do the act.The fact that you continue to ask these questions show that you continue to miss the point.
The answer to those two questions is: who cares? I’ll grant you both (although the first is debatable) but that doesn’t address the point.
Now please answer my questions:
1) Don’t you think there’s something wrong with a version of Yiddishkeit which causes one to be unable to do a mitzvah?
2) Why do all the Lubavichers not sleep in the succah when probably none of them actually feel this tza’ar?
I just want to check that the time is not worthless, that’s all.
Not wortless at all.
There is virtually ZERO deaths from Mumps and Measles (Rubella) in First World Countries!
I’ll give you three guesses why (the first two don’t count).
I’ll even give you a hint. It rhymes with “Maxine’s”.
For the record, I do think the reason to do mitzvos issue is legit, but not the schar v’onesh.
One of my sources that it’s assur:
No, microwaving is not bishul. Even if a nochri cooks a gourmet meal in a microwave, from scratch, and it’s completely fit to serve at a state dinner, there is no issue whatsoever of bishulei nochrim.
Source?
YOU, Yourself should! (DO THE STUDY.)
Why not the CDC? And why isn’t the fact that anti-vaxxers are sold selected a confounding factor?
For some reason it seems that when some posters here realize that their tayinos on Lubavitche are not really true (for example reason to do mitzvos)
Who decided that wasn’t a legitimate tayna? It is.
I have an idea. If those who work for the Israeli government want the tefilos of the chareidim, they should be עוסק בצרכי צבור באמונה. Then they will be included in the tefilah we say every week.
Joseph, do you object to asking Hashem to bestow wisdom on those in power?
If those in power have goals we don’t want them to achieve, it doesn’t make sense to pray for them to have wisdom.
Iacisrmma, in my experience “hatzlacha” means “don’t expect any help from me”.
You’re hanging out with the wrong people.
That is an illogical statement. There are many things they don’t say. They never said a yeshiva boy is who not learning, who is just hanging out, should not go to the Army.
I guess you’ve never heard of maaseh rav.
That analogy is both inapt and untrue.
I am sorry, the absent of a pasak is not a pasak,
You’re being silly. Do the gedolim say it or not? If they don’t, that is a p’sak.
To argue the point that because you learn Torah, Hakoras Hatov should not be shown is apikoresus!
Straw man. Nobody said that.
that the Israeli government is forcing yeshiva bochurim in the army is pure ignorant lies and sheker.
Not just bochurim, girls as well. Don’t believe the propoganda otherwise. Why do you think they want quotas? If anyone who is in yeshiva can get an exemption, how are quotas relevant?
The whole idea of exemptions for yeshiva bochurim has been and continues to be under attack.
The only limud zchus is that they feel that they’re in a big battle still against haskolah/Zionism
Assuming that is the reason (or for that matter if it isn’t, or if it’s one of several), the fact is that the gedolim aren’t saying it. In no way is it a stain on us for following them.
Maybe it’s embarrasing to you because you don’t understand it it or can’t explain it, but that’s your issue, not an issue with the approach of the gedolim or those following them.
And yes, I refuse to believe you when you state gedolim are against this premise of the Torah. I ask you name one gadol that clearly states we do not need to follow it.
Of course no gedolim argue on derech eretz kodmoh laTorah.
Of course no gedolim argue on the Navi.
Yet, they don’t say the משברך and rarely send talmidim (or anyone who asks) to the army. With or without a written teshuvah, those are clear and obvious facts.
The only logical conclusion is that they hold that derech eretz does not mean to go to the army or say that specific tefilah.
You are in fact arguing on them if you think we should be going to the army or saying that tefilah or that not doing do is a lack of derech eretz.
Attacking the Source is what those who cannot refute whine
How many times have you called provaxxers, the CDC, and every other medical organization, including all of the journals which have published studies showing the safety of vaccines, LIARS and FRAUDS?
Now you suddenly say attacking the source means you can’t refute them (even though your “sources” have been refuted numerous times)?
He has $700,00 – $1.7Million annual lost profit for not following the vaccine schedule
The guy probably makes millions by being an antivax specialist.
Zionist do not want chardiemm to join the army.
False
yeshivish charadim refuses common decency of hakaros hatov and backs it up with Torah
Perhaps that’s a good summary of how the haters twist and frame it, but it’s not the reality.
I agree with NCB. There are enough legitimate issues with Chabad (nowadays) that we don’t need to nitpick on what are at most slight differences in priorities, and might just be semantics.
Because statistically, car accidents are much more common than airplane accidents.
Of course, because there are so many more car trips than plane trips. That doesn’t make flying safer.
Torah doesn’t object to an army in any era.
Wow, talk about blanket statements containing sheker…
Debate about level of frumkeit in IDF is a separate issue……
You can’t separate it at all.
Let’s see an army run completely al pi Torah and then we can talk.
Meanwhile, it’s a spiritual minefield with many casualties.
sharing the burden.
That goes both ways…. When the spiritual burden falls on everyone, and everyone keeps the Torah and learns, we can talk about sharing the burden of defense.
You simply can’t argue from an era where so many important factors were so different and say we should do what they did.
Maybe we should use spears instead of jet fighters?
DY, what non-Torah path? Defending Am Yisrael and Eretz Yisrael?
No, not learning, arayos, chillul Shabbos, etc. You know, what happens to many who join the IDF.
Not even a democratically elected government has a right to tell young boys to embark on a non Torah path.
Also I am not deciding
Of course you are.
It’s a government elected by the people that came up with the crazy notion of equal sharing of the burden.
There you go again, saying different means unequal.
ZG, sorry, I lost you there.
but who gets to decide who is exempt and who has to don a uniform?
I would certainly hope not a secular government which couldn’t care less if all the chayalim go OTD ch”v, and in many ways encourage it.
And you certainly don’t get to decide that someone who is learning is therefore lacking derech eretz.
The basic concept of Derech eretz kadma ltorah dictates that it doesn’t make any sense to say that someone has to do your basic responsibility because YOU hold that by sitting in a bais medrash it is equivalent.
Actually, Chazal do, and there are enough people in the armed forces without the b’nei Torah, and the army ruins people’s ruchniyus.
Everyone has a responsibility to the tzibur, true, but arguing that everyone needs to fulfill that obligation in the same way is ludicrous. Should I consider you lacking in basic responsibility if you’re not on Hatzolah, or not a garbage collector, or not an accountant? After all, we need Hatzolah, the garbage needs to be picked up, and taxes filed. If you don’t do all of those, are you a bum?
And if you don’t think learning Torah is a benefit to the tzibur, you’re not just not agreeing with me or even gedolim such as Rav Shach (etc.), you’re arguing with Chazal.
So are you saying frum people do not need to follow the law because there is a Ran who we do not pasken like?
It’s not so poshut that we don’t follow the Ran, or that the Rambam would apply to the secular State of Israel.
Whether frum people should or shouldn’t follow the law depends on the law. Joining the armed forces is a tremendous
sakana in ruchniyus, so no, someone shouldn’t go to the army just because it’s a law.And the high part to Ki Va Moed
Regardless, the Israeli government does not hold of the Ran or ANYONE else for that matter. So there is really no point discussing halacha when the government will not abide by it.
Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe the initial discussion of dd”d started in response to this statement of yours:
If you voluntary live there, please follow the law.
Nobody thinks the government cares if we pasken like the Ran or the Rambam (or whether the Rambam would apply to a secular government), you addressed the frum people living there.
Daas: You are twisting the Ran. As you correctly posted: “אבל במלכי ישראל לא לפי שא”י כל ישראל שותפין בה”
You do not have the right Bzman hazeh! I truly cannot comprehend how that Dina Delmachusa applies in any government where “יכול לומר להם אם לא תעשו מצותי אגרש אתכם מן הארץ”.I don’t understand. You don’t agree with the Ran? Therefore I twisted it? I’m lost
You’d be much better off saying we don’t pasken that way than twisting the Ran.
Also, according to the reason the Ran gives, there’s no difference between a secular government or religious one.
וכתבו בתוספות דדוקא במלכי עובדי כוכבים אמר דדינא דמלכותא דינא מפני שהארץ שלו ויכול לומר להם אם לא תעשו מצותי אגרש אתכם מן הארץ אבל במלכי ישראל לא לפי שא”י כל ישראל שותפין בה
Dina D’Malchusa Dina does not apply under a Jewish KING who follow the Torah.
If you think you need a monarchy, then dina dmalchusa dina shouldn’t apply at all – not in Israel, the USA, Canada, etc.
The Ran said Eretz Yisroel, not the State of Israel.
I don’t understand what you’re saying – most of the land governed by the State of Israel is in fact Eretz Yisroel.
DY, the Wikipedia says that holy sites ” are sites that religions considers to be of special religious significance”.
Care to list which other types of places might fall under Wikipedia’s definition and see if you would call all of them “holy places”?
I don’t need to add anything to what american_yerushalmi wrote to demonstrate that the IDF cannot be considered a “holy place” by any stretch of a Torah observant Jew’s imagination.
DY: So if I have one of the older USB flash drives containing files with the entire tanach with meforshim that I no longer use (its all on the cloud now) and want to dispose of, just trash it?
AFAIK, it’s definitely not shaimos and doesn’t need to be buried. You brought up an interesting point, though, that perhaps it should be disposed of respectfully and wrapped before being thrown out. I don’t know the answer to this.
Avi and Manitou, I didn’t say a word about whether or not the soldiers are performing a mitzvah. All I said was that the Israeli armed forces is not a “holy place”.