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One difference between kashrus of food and clothing is that clothing can be checked after the fact, but food generally cannot (except for bugs but even that is different because nobody is going to drop off a salad to be checked and pick it up the next day).
Amein!
That’s quite a stretch
Not any bigger than the one Takes2-2tango made.
Im just trying to figure out how a week of Prizus in the promised land of Florida turned into a discussion of Abortion
The OP mentioned chillul Hashem. Takes2-2tango talked about some alleged chillul Hashem, with a totally unsubstantiated claim about Agudah supporting abortion. Probably motzi shem ra altogether, but there’s your connection.
ZD, Who said anything about pritzus?
The OP talked about mid winter vacation. Many people go to Florida for mid winter vacation. There’s a lot of pritzus in Florida.
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That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
I guess you didn’t see the vaccine and Chabad threads.
I think that regarding personal matters (i.e. matters that don’t involve another person who may not follow the Torah) it would be preferable for secular law to be less restrictive than Torah law.
Where does abortion fit in? Is the fetus another person?
But it sickens me
You should have taken the DMSD vaccine.
CTL, how’s your wife doing?
As your tzidkus grows, you grow into a bigger tzadik. When a lammud vovnik is niftar another tzadik reaches the madreiga of becoming a lammud vovnik.
What if he’s doing an aveirah at the time?
Any other secrets you need answers to?
Yes, who are the other 35? 🤣🤣
What happens when one dies?
Does a non tzaddik suddenly become a tzaddik?
Does a well known tzaddik suddenly become hidden?
$10,000? Where do I sign up?
Is his wife showing up too early?
Too late?Yes
Is even showing up the problem?
Yes, after borchu.
Is there a מחיצה?
Yes
Why is he looking over there?
He’s looking for his wife.
(These questions remind me of the people who try to find the lomdus and farenfer all the stiros in Harry Potter)
“theres no crisis just a lack of bitachon”.
There are singles who say that, and people who have kids who need shidduchim.
They may be wrong, but automatically saying they’re insensitive is unfair.
Also, they’re right on an individual basis, just wrong that it’s not a societal problem.
Sort of difficult to usefully respond on a “global” search for a Rav who cold advise on some vague “spiritual” matter who has all the basic attributes one would hope for in a Rav.
What do you mean? The Gedolah Hador is available right here for the whole world!
Joseph, which part of “V’ein kan makom l’ha’arich” do you not understand? Perhaps ubiquitin could explain it to you. 😉
Different expectations for what a marriage is supposed to look like. V’ein kan makom l’ha’arich.
I should add that you say that we’ve combined the worst of both, but I don’t see how the modern system (which isn’t really much of a system) works any better, or would work for BMG type yeshiva bochurim and BY girls.
And I don’t think the chsssidish system, which does seem to work much better in terms of setting up matches, would work for American litvish style bochurim in terms of sholom bayis.
I think the first is more realistic
I think they’re both unrealistic.
I do hear your point, but it doesn’t seem to be the case that boys sit around for that long without dates, so I’m not sure that’s the big ikuv here.
In how long would you be willing to advocate trying something else (if either the age gap cant be closed, or if closing doesnt help)
What do you recommend? I think other than age gap, the problems plaguing the shidduch system are general societal problems which manifest themselves particularly strongly in shidduchim; they’re not problems specifically in the way shidduchim are done. I don’t necessarily think they’re any easier to solve than closing the age gap.
“As a pediatric neurologist and member of the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Child Neurology Society, the American Academy of Neurology and the American Neurological Association, I strongly support the importance of vaccines for all children. I have spoken with many parents of children with ASD over the years who feel strongly that their children developed ASD due to vaccines and I have vigorously defended the importance of vaccines as the best way to prevent many serious diseases”
Dr. A. Zimmerman
Though long can I expect to wait unti l real solutions are attempted?
Real solutions have been and are being attempted.
I think it is simplistic and while it would explain shidduch island or musical chairs with a fixed number of chairs and players it doesn’t explain the real world
You haven’t done a very good job of explaining why it’s not true in the real world, and haven’t really responded to my specific challenges to your assertion that it does not apply to the real world.
Thats a tough sell, you are advocating for a change that you admit is “very difficult” that would only “very possibly” actually help what the real problem is.
You are mischaracterizing my position. I think it would solve a great deal of the “real problem”.
I do think it’s very difficult to completely close the gap to the point where there won’t be any disparity, but it’s not an all or nothing proposition.
Perhaps he means property tax
Sam, what does that have to do with the freezer?
GH, no (at least not to the same extent), because the boys in EY generally get married younger.
while you are thinking about that, consider this how easy do you think it will be to cut out the disparity?
I think the way to cut out the disparity is to cut down the gap.
I think cutting down the gap is a very difficult thing to do.
If we cut out the disparity, but kept our current dating prices would there still be a crises
Our current dating practices include age gap, but I’ll assume you mean that we change the age of boys to a younger age, the boys marry older girls than current practice, or a combination.
The answer I believe is that we would still have some singles. We would certainly have fewer older single girls, and possibly fewer older single boys.
The reason I think we might even end up with fewer older single boys is because if we level the playing field somewhat, and take away some of the advantage boys currently have, we would very possibly cause the boys to have lower expectations, and that might help some of the tougher cases to get married.
Whether after these changes were affected we would still have a “crisis” depends on how you define crisis.
No because for boys age is less of an issue.
Do you think the age gap theory math is wrong, or deny that there’s an age gap (or population growth)?
No because for boys age is less of an issue.
How does that decrease their numbers? If we start with the same number of boys and girls, and they marry at equal numbers, how do we end up with more girls?
there are a lot of complicated pieces at play that make it hard to actually predict how many of each would be left.
Agreed, but we don’t need precise numbers, and without any reasonable hypothesis that more girls leave than boys (I haven’t heard one), the larger number of girls is a problem.
I think we’ve found the problem.
And Joseph’s solution 🙄
DaasYochid, I hate to break the news to you, but if you define “Pro-Vax” as someone who believes
vaccines are beneficial but believes in skipping/delaying some vaccines –
YOU, DAAS YOCHID ARE ANTI-VAX!But wait, I think most kids should be vaccinated for MMR, Polio, DTaP, flu, and others, on schedule. I also dont believe there’s a link between vaccines and SIDS or autism. Am I still anti-vax?
Congratulations for joining the Side of Truth!
Thank you! Since I’m on the side of truth, will you agree to my previous opinions?
I don’t Know if Dr. Zimmerman is pro-vax or anti-vax.
I think you should do some research.
If you look honestly, I believe you’ll find that he believes the benefits outweigh the risks. Even the vaccines which he thinks could cause autism, he thinks are more likely to prevent a disease which could cause autism.
ProVaxxers, In the 1960s when there were only FOUR vaccines (not 72 like today)
were there massive epidemics, were people dying in droves from measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio,
diptheria, etc in the 1960s?define ProVaxxers
As time moves on their do become less guys available but this is BECAUSE of our system.
Wouldn’t you agree that there are fewer girls around as well? By the same number? The exact same number of guys and girls get married.
“The Shidduch crisis is a commonly observed and discussed phenomenon in the Orthodox Jewish community whereby eligible single persons, especially women, have difficulty finding a suitable spouse.”
So I would say their definition is a combination.
The OP certainly was referring to the disparity.
I dont fully understand the question.
I’ll ask it a bit differently. If we cut dating out of the process, but kept the typical ages intact, would there be a disparity?
DaasYochid – Is Dr. Bob Sears Pro Vaccine or Anti-Vaccine?
First answer my question please.
Funny, you haven’t had an issue with the precise definition of pro-vax when calling all of us liars.
Anyhow, I don’t think someone needs to follow every detail of the CDC recommendations to be considered pro-vax.
I’ll define pro-vax for the purpose of this question as someone who recommends that children receive most of the vaccines (not necessarily all and not necessarily at the precise times recommended by the CDC) being offered as currently being manufactured and distributed.
Does Dr. Zimmerman fall in to this category?
I’m still waiting.
I disagree that that’s what most people mean.
Do you deny that there are a lot more older single girls than boys?
Do you deny that based on how our current shidduch system works (now how it theoretically could work, but how it does actually play out) there aren’t enough boys for the girls?
First answer my question
Doomsday, is Dr. Zimmerman pro-vax or anti-vax?
Here is a partial list of questions which come along with ” thawed out freezer syndrome”
That’s excellent. Can we please see the rest?
Which seminary did the grandmother attend?
Haha
Meno, please share with us all of the bad jokes you’ve heard about this
But when the numbers do match up or at least can.
Yes, they can, if we close the age gap…
BTW I dont deny the Shidduch crises I deny the Age Gap™ as being a main cause .
What do you mean by the shidduch crisis? The disparity between number of available boys vs. girls?
I don’t think we should talk about shidduchim any more. It causes people to have a Whirpool of emotions, is a a very Hotpoint, and someone Maytag you as insensitive if you say the wrong thing.
(now you’ve heard three more)
Naftush, the side effect of the freezer is that hundreds of boys start shidduchim at the same time, but it’s certainly not the intention, and I don’t know that it has any effect on the overall picture.
Yes, the OP picked Tu B’shvat, when these boys start dating, to discuss whether they are properly prepared, but there’s no real connection.
Maybe there are ways in which the shidduch process is “engineered” that we can discuss, but the freezer isn’t a great example.
The rabbonim who advocate closing the gap seem to think not.
I’m sorry you don’t appreciate my humor.
No, and no, because I hope we’re not a society of obnoxious peoples.