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CTL, What would happen if the chiyuv of the non paying member was bigger (e.g. yahrtzeit vs. avel during 11 months)?
On the practical side, CTL’s #6, specifically for aveilus and/or yahrtzeit, in many shuls.
Meno +1
How can a human being “reject” that which Hashem wants to happen?
Bechirah.
I have no idea where Har Sinai is, but I don’t think I’d trust a YouTube video to figure it out.
I bet there are some convincing anti-vax videos as well.
I’m almost sure the Gemarrah there is referring to actual prophesy, Nevuah, certainly a higher category than Ruach HaKodesh.
There are any number of levels of “ruach hakodesh”. My point is that obviously subsequent generations have the ability to discern when the level has dropped.
Any tax hike on the rich or on inheritance would be balanced by a tax break for everyone else.
You don’t know how government works. You’re also talking about much higher rates when you’re talking about taxing wealthy people into being forced to work in McDonald’s.
I thought you’d say that. I’m not sure if taxes paid 50+ years ago were still enough to pay off an heir’s burden today considering inflation and differing tax rates.
Inflation has no bearing. The remaining money is now worth less as well.
Tax rates might have been higher, depending on when the money was earned.
If it gets taxed every time it changes hands, why should inheritance be any different?
It’s not changing hands in the same way wages, purchases, etc. are. ברא כרעא דאבוה.
Excellent post, Syag.
Obviously that “top Rabbi” doesn’t have Ruach HaKodesh… So how is he to be believed regarding others?!? Isn’t that ludicrous?!
According to that logic, the gemara could not have stated that there is no longer ruach hakodesh, yet it does.
(I’m not arguing that there can’t be a lower level of ruach hakodesh than the gemara is referring to.)ת”ר משמתו נביאים האחרונים חגי זכריה ומלאכי נסתלקה רוח הקודש מישראל
סנהדרין יI believe that your camp subconsciously (or maybe even consciously) believes that there is no tangible benefit from the taxes you pay.
That’s just not true. We just don’t think the government should be taxing more than necessary just because they can.
Everyone should have to pay for that benefit. Someone living off inheritance should not have government protection and benefits paid for by people with less money than him who actually have to work for a living.
Income taxes were already paid in that money. Money made from investing that money is subject to taxation. If the heir buys taxable goods or owns property, he will be paying taxes for that.
I’m fine with that opinion, but I don’t agree. Do you really even?
Yes. I believe in the principle of ownership. There is no comparison between someone living off of welfare, which means money which he doesn’t own, and earned or even inherited wealth, which he does.
I have no problem with abolishing the inheritance tax, but it’s not so terrible if it’s a relatively low percentage. Higher percentages are referred to as “confiscatory”, and are basically stealing someone’s money. You seem to think once the government has the right to tax, it’s fine for them to tax at any rate. I strongly disagree. It has to be reasonable, not just taxing simply because the money is there.
Yeah, I figured you’d jump on the opportunity to respond.
Although even with Rabbis one must be careful. After all most are just human.
The others are frogs?
Not all rabbis are the same.
DY:
You would consider the side-effect of causing people to have to work for a living to be a negative effect of inheritance taxation? I don’t think I’m in the minority considering that a positive. Maybe strictly within the confines of the YWN CR, I’m a minority opinion on that.That’s none of our business. We don’t have a right to decide that and confiscate someone’s wealth.
“Let them work at a fast food chain if they have to.”
It’s no mitzvah to be offended, but neither is it a mitzvah to do things which you know people find offensive.
You’re misrepresenting your own viewpoint. You don’t just want inheritance taxed, you want it confiscated.
so what are we supposed to be arguing on
You want to confiscate inherited wealth.
All I am saying is that the universal full-time learning is a myth. It is great for some, and an exercise of failure for others. And quantity doesn’t equal quality.
I wasn’t addressing universal full time learning, I’m not sure why you keep arguing that point with me.
I’m addressing your statement implying that all learning is equal, I quoted a gemara saying that’s not true, and the gemara of הרבה עשו isn’t very relevant to that point.
Using saved tax dollars for other projects does not mean higher taxes, it doesn’t change the amount of tax paid
Semantics. Keeping taxes the same when they could have been lowered is the same as raising them. You seem to feel the government is somehow entitled to taxpayers’ money. They’re not, besides for what’s necessary to run the government efficiently.
It’s all about spending smarter, not more. One needs to apply a business head to government, not civil service mentality
Excellent point, but increasing funding for schools and libraries still means higher taxes. The money saved from stopping wasteful spending should rightfully go back to the taxpayers whose money was being wasted, instead you want to keep it for government.
Thank you, NP.
Screen name looks familiar…
No, it’s not okay. Who says it’s common? If you know people violating hilchos yichud, you should give appropriate tochachah.
TLIK, you asked for a source, I provided it. Your response was a rant unrelated to your question and my response, except for one point:
I am familiar with quite a few people who are working full time (some already retired) who are מחברי ספרים, whose learning is on par with quite a number of recognized Roshei Yeshivos.
That’s wonderful, but a very small minority. In general, the learning of one immersed in it יומם ולילה is of a higher quality than one who isn’t, and the gemara clearly places a priority on higher quality learning, your politically correct stance notwithstanding.
Make sure the person mentoring you understands your needs, and is capable of imparting to you the beauty of the Torah, at your level, and at a pace appropriate for you. Good luck!
and personal achievesments unrelated to work or study (aka physical fitness challenges, learnig to play an instrument, etc) …
All of these may be necessary, but they’re not our mission on this world. At best, they’re means to accomplish our mission.
I’ll bet many people (who engage in this sad picture passing) Photoshop their shidduch picture. Thin herself out, a little taller, airbrush those pimples, etc.
…replace with a picture of a different person…
TLIK:
:קדושין כ”ט
ת”ר הוא ללמוד ובנו ללמוד הוא קודם לבנו ר’ יהודה אומר אם בנו זריז וממולח ותלמודו מתקיים בידו בנו קודמו כי הא דרב יעקב בריה דרב אחא בר יעקב שדריה אבוה לקמיה דאביי כי אתא חזייה דלא הוה מיחדדין שמעתיה א”ל אנא עדיפא מינך תוב את דאיזיל אנאDo you feel you accomplish your life’s mission, at your job or business. What if you spent that time finishing shas?
Why is this davka a question for working men? Doesn’t everyone spend some time they perhaps could have spent learning Shas?
I like funnybone’s answer. Everyone needs to constantly assess and reassess their priorities and how they spend their time, but certainly supporting one’s family is one of the main priorities.
What a pretentious and offensive question.
Hmm… I wouldn’t be surprised if the OP is working but having some self doubts.
Frankly, once you’re giving it away, the money would be better spent supporting mosdos of Torah and chessed.
I don’t know how many. I share your disgust and concern. In my circles, it’s uncommon.
Also, the people who wouldn’t buy the Yated if it had pictures of women in it aren’t the ones asking for pictures in shidduch resumes.
Some people don’t photograph well. Others can show a photo professionally done with lighting, etc.
Many times you’re not attracted to the type of look of the girl in the photo, but when you meet her , you see her differently because she’s a live human, not photograph with no soul or inherent charm. Who knows how many shidduchim never materialized because of photos.I agree.
Funny that women’s photos are Photoshopped or outright deleted in the frum media, yet here gazing at a female from every which angle is kosher.
Although I’m against pictures on shidduch resumes, I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. In general, a man shouldn’t look at a woman he’s not married to, but the one exception is before he marries her. אסור לאדם שיקדש את האשה עד שיראנה
You can fulfill this gemara by meeting her (obviously) I’m just pointing out that your comparison isn’t great.
you spelled מענדל wrong.
What’s the proper spelling?
However, pictures are much harder to fake
“Twist facts”
How about the over the top dramatic heimish robo calls wr all get through out everyday of the week. Mine come in to at least 1030 pm daily
How do you know they aren’t 100% true? Are they collecting for you?
There’s not a single question about pop.
Many ladies’ outfits don’t have pockets.
I think you missed the first word of the OP.
This story smells. They all leave money in coat pockets? Ever heard of a wallet? A purse? The hall knew but did nothing?
They’re at a wedding. Most will be dancing. They’re not carrying wallets or purses with them.
Which hall doesnt have a person manning the coatroom,?
Several. One less expense for the already strapped baal simcha.
As opposed to Oz V’hodor?
The question was about “yeshiva bochurim”. Not one yeshiva bochur who can’t develop the skills to learn gemara as it’s written. That would be a tiny minority.
Because obtaining skills is a result of the process, not the process itself.