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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Are you trolling, or do you really not know the answer to this? If you sincerely would like to know the basis of the minhag of cooking three eggs, I’d be happy to explain, but if you’re trolling, I have no interest.
April 10, 2019 9:12 am at 9:12 am in reply to: Your children weren’t meant to be a korbon Pesach. #1712645☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIts an advertisement to the women to not make simchas Yom Tov a hostage to your unnecessary need to clean every inch of the house when there’s absolutely no need to do so.
Do your spring cleaning at your leisure AFTER Pesach
Which parts of Pesach cleaning do you think are necessary, which aren’t necessary but commendable, and which are completely overkill?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe Kalever famous hungarian song was a popular peasant song. We can be mekadesh the nigunim.
If the source is secular, you can be mekadesh it. If the song comes from a”z, it’s mechuar, and if the lyrics remain, it’s assur.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe nigun is not a’z, after changing the words.
1) It would still be mechuar (disgusting).
2) The reports are saying that the words are largely the same. If those reports are true, it would be a”z.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantFor a song to be avoda zara, it does not need to include any names of avoda zara.
R’ Moshe assers gospel songs with words of Psalms, (i.e. Tehillim) if made by non Jews, since we assume the intent is for avoda zara.
Even if it were sung wordlessly, it would be mechuar hadavar, and we would dismiss a chazan who insisted on singing it, so why would anyone defend it? In fact, though, if the words remain largely intact and the theme is the same, it should be assur m’dina.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI should clsrify that I never heard any version of the song, I’m just saying what the halacha is assuming the reports of the origins are true.
This is from a review on Mostly Music:
SONG BASED AND A COPY OF A IDOL-WORSHIP/PAGAN MUSIC / SONG
Song and tune is very nice – but just found out and a quick google search confirms it to be true – this song
the tune AND Words is a totally Pagan
I.e. Avodah Zora song
Google the song “strong wind, deep water’ the tune is exact same
as well as words/chant of Ay ya Ay ya yo etc… and the words are the same thing just in English with some minor variations it was made by pagan earth/nature worshippers.
so listening to this song can involve
Some serious issurim….
It might sound too crazy TB true, but do u want to take that chance ??
It’s one thing to be based on or same as
a non-Jewish song it’s another thing entirely to be based on idol-worship☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe song is about worshipping the earth as a god. All of that is part of it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe רמ”א says that if a בעל תפלה uses a niggun from a”z, we tell him to stop, and if he doesn’t, we dismiss him.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantR’ Ovadiah Yosef (certainly qualifying as at least a daas yochid even for Ashkenazim!) is meikel altogether with ‘transporting nigunnim’ as Avi K quoted above.
We’re not discussing transporting stam secular music, we’re discussing avoda zara.
It is arguable that even R’ Moshe would agree in this case that its ok–not only because some Jews came along and translated the words into Hebrew with the problematic line being left out, but more significantly because even in the world at large, this song–i.e. the tune and general words–seems to be primarily associated with non-inherently-avodah-zarah-groups
The whole theme is avoda zara, and changing one line doesn’t affect that.
Rav Moshe writes that even if they no longer sing it, it remains assur, so whatever association people make won’t change the fact that it’s assur.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAnd @yeshivishrockstar, how did you even find this song?
He looked it up on Wiccapedia
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant@DaasYochid Rav Moshe ZT”L seems to be referring to unaltered songs or recordings by an עכו׳ם. He’s certainly not assuring the music itself, but the song and lyrics which are sung for the purpose of Avoda Zora.
He is assuring even if the purpose of that specific performance is not for avoda zara. He talks about Acher, and presumably his kavana was not for avoda zara, but was not allowed to sing those songs.
And if you read the rest of the teshuva, it sounds like he was against pretty much all Jewish pop music, as a lot of Rabbonim were and still are.
That’s not what he is saying, and that’s totally a side point. He rejects that the issur of listening to music after the churban should be why Acher went off, and instead says he sang avoda zara songs.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY, many of of our tunes (e.g. the popular one for “Maoz Tzur”) come from church music.
That is a popular myth.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRabbi Shay Tahan on Torahanytime.com based on Igros Moshe Yoreh Deah Chelek Sheni – Teshuva 111 says that according to Rav Moshe the song adama vshomayim would not be assur but would be mechuar hadavar.
If the lyrics are the same, R Moshe assers mei’ikar hadin.
Mechuar hadavar is without the lyrics.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYserbius, a song which was originally made for avoda zara is actually assur to sing or listen to.
April 7, 2019 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm in reply to: Tax Time Nightmare….Trump’s Tax Reforms Cost me big time #1710465☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIn other words, Trump’s tax reform did exactly what it was supposed to do. Tax the liberals.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe mod was clearly not calling you cute, but for some reason thought what you wrote was cute. No surprise that you distorted what the mod said. At least this time it wasn’t Torah which you distorted.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMakes one wonder what you could have written to get deleted considering the garbage which has gotten posted.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHe or she must think jerks are cute.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant:כתובות ס
תוס’ בשם הערוךאין לך עם הארץ שלא ידע שהן מותרות בחלב
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t know why the mods allow this troll to continually distort and mock halacha, but be that as it may, I implore anyone reading this not to take this clown seriously.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPeople who think they know everything become annoyed when they meet someone that actually does.
The reality check is needed for those that think they know and spout their thoughts irresponsibly and get offended when their ignorance is proven.
Ah, the perfect placed to apply your favorite dictum, kol haposel…
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantbottom line is that I can cite chapter and verse to back points I raise.
All the while distorting what it says, as clearly demonstrated in your bedikas chometz thread.
April 5, 2019 9:39 am at 9:39 am in reply to: Bdikas Chometz: Hid 10 pieces of bread but found 11 #1709789☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSummary: LCHATCHILA one can do bedikas chometz on ANY night BEFORE אור לארבעה עשר without a brocha, provided that one room is left for bedika on the eve of 14 with a bracha.
The chiyuv to leave a room for bedikas chometz makes your entire point about being ready to leave before anyone else moot.
Leaving out a detail which changes the entire halacha is indeed distorting halacha.
April 2, 2019 8:11 am at 8:11 am in reply to: Lessons From The Amish Measles epidemic of 2014 #1706461☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThree deaths in 20 years among a population of over 300,000,000
Because the vast majority of them vaccinate.
What would the numbers be if they wouldn’t?
April 1, 2019 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm in reply to: Bdikas Chometz: Hid 10 pieces of bread but found 11 #1706388☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYes, it’s twisting, perhaps mocking halacha, because the source you bring says you should do the bedikah on the 14th.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think the rebbe is the greatest person in our generation
Reality check: he’s not alive.
Agav, you’re making no sense. You’re claiming he’s in this generation, i.e. alive, and at the same time, that he’s not alive, but can be moshiach even though he’s not alive (based on an interpretation of a gemara which was never held of while he was alive and is against the Rambam).
April 1, 2019 9:29 am at 9:29 am in reply to: Bdikas Chometz: Hid 10 pieces of bread but found 11 #1705928☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI guess the משנה which says אור לארבעה עשר, and that applies in חוץ לארץ, didn’t believe באמונה שלמה.
You probably think your trolling is funny, but you should know that your stream of distortions of halacha come across as mocking halacha. You should stop.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think he said he wasn’t coming back.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWho else uses Shlita about tzaddikim who have passed on? Nobody. You guys didn’t either until this stupidity started.
The terms זצ”ל or זי”ע or ע”ה, etc. were perfectly fine, even for Chabad and even referring to your own tzaddikim, e.g. the heiliger Baal Hatanya. Suddenly you start using Shlita for the most recently deceased Rebbe, and you think you can fool us into thinking it’s just a way of saying צדיקים במיתתן נקראים חיים? Well, you haven’t fooled us. Your excuses are hogwash. Stop the stupidity and kefirah, and rejoin klal Yisroel.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBoy, talk about twisting and distorting…
You’re going well beyond צדיקים במיתתן נקראים חיים.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStop being a moron picking and choosing to hear what you want to hear, and learn what you want to learn, and twist what you want to twist.
You’re the one who thinks a dead man is alive, and I’m the moron?
You’re not doing the Rebbe any favors by claiming that he was delusional about his father in law still being alive.
The Torah doesn’t say the Lubavicher Rebbe is alive. Claiming so is abusing and distorting the Torah.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat contradicts what you said earlier.
Yes, it does, I noticed that too.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’ve heard speakers refer to “the Rosh Hayeshiva”, and unless you know in which yeshiva he learned (and sometimes, which years), you don’t know to whom he is referring.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI used the word “compare” so do not twist, distrort or confuse yourself.
You wrote about comparing Yiftach to Shmuel after writing, “Who are we to decide which godol is equal or less then other tzaddikim?!”
So aside from distorting Chazal, and l’havdil distorting my words, now you’re distorting your own.
I still haven’t figured out if you’re a masterful troll or truly nasty and obnoxious.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWolf, that’s a true point. I made the same point regarding how Lubavichers who claim the Rebbe is still alive are contradicting the Torah (although his wife has already passed away, so that wasn’t a practical difference).
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat brought this up now?
Someone on the joining Chabad thread wrote Shlita, and the mods edited it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou are again distorting Chazal. They did not say Yiftach was as great as Shmuel. That’s why the word “b’doro” is there.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo if I say the Rebbe is alive because of these two quotes, am I a koifer?
You don’t say he’s alive because of those quotes. You use those quotes to defend your mishugas that he’s alive.
it’s not a stira, a death certificate is what is koiveiah a person that he passed away, Torah is koiveiah.
The Torah says he’s dead. Had he been married, his wife would have been an almanah. His property passed on to his closest relatives. In this case there is no stira between the death certificate and the Torah, but there is a stirah between saying he’s alive and the Torah.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe fact that you think you can compare Rabbeinu Hakadosh (and Yaakov Avinu, Eliyahu Hanavi, etc.) to the Lubavicher Rebbe is a huge disrespect to them. Chazal tell us that Rabbeinu Hakadosh was visible, and I accept that 100%, but when a bunch of nut jobs are in denial about the Lubavicher Rebbe based on their boichs , I call it out for what it is.
March 31, 2019 8:40 am at 8:40 am in reply to: making marijuana and toeiva marriage legal but plastic bags illegal-normal???? #1705281☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant“Climate change” if you wish.
March 31, 2019 8:40 am at 8:40 am in reply to: making marijuana and toeiva marriage legal but plastic bags illegal-normal???? #1705278☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantToeiva marriage is terrible for the environment. It causes global flooding.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantShach was Rav Shach’s last name.
ש”ך is ראשי תיבות for שפתי כהן.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNot twisted. It can mean something else, so you should simply understand it that way. What they mean by it is their problem, not yours. So long as what they are saying is not objectionable, you have no right to object to it.
It is twisting. And I have every right to object to them saying and meaning something dangerous and wrong despite the fact that there is a different way of understanding the words through distortion.
Maybe I shouldn’t object to the sign LerntMinTeyrah posted? I’m sure you can find away to distort the meaning.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantyou said you came here to mock meshichist lubavitch. Fine.
Then you used a gematria, for a joke.
ה הַ אני תרולינג is gematria 770.I was mocking their gematria of 770 = beis Moshiach.
BTW, 770 is also gematria חמור בלי דעת. So if you think a gematria proves something…
אלא מאי, gematria is a real chochma, but you can’t make up your own naarishkeit and blame it on gematria. Leave it to the real chachomim
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantso one who denies it is a kofer.
The Mishna Berurah says to daven to Hashem in the z’chus of the niftar. I assume you don’t think the Chofetz Chaim was a koifer.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantbecause he’s divine – no, because he didn’t die just as we are alive (and yet not divine) so too they believe he is alive (yet not divine) – why do you make uo that he is divine?! Anyone that is alive is divine?!
We don’t have death certificates
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY, it doesn’t matter what they mean by it, YOU can’t object to it because it can be understood in a normal way, so you should just understand it that way.
They say something which normally means someone is alive, and they mean he’s alive, but I shouldn’t object to it because it can be twisted to mean something else? Ridiculous.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAm I a koifer if I say מה זרעו בחיים אף הוא בחיים?
Am I a koifer if I say צדיקים במיתתן נקראים חיים?No
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant1. I was helping translate the word for the benefit of those unfamiliar with Yiddish, and giving it context.
But you pulled a nice switcheroo there when you changed the subject of the “betten”. You claimed it doesn’t mean the same as davening, but when you ask, beseach, demand of a human being something which is in Hashem’s realm, it’s problematic.
This is what the Rebbe is answering.
The answer doesn’t fit the question you claim he’s asking.
There’s a very simple answer to the question why you ask someone to daven on your behalf – perhaps that person has zechuyos you don’t, so his tefilos will be answered. It doesn’t replace your own tefilos, it’s in addition to your own tefilos. Atzmus umahus areingeshtelt in a guf doesn’t enter the equation unless the question was about beseaching, asking, demanding, i.e. davening to the person.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMilhouse, see the picture LMT posted above. It’s clear they don’t mean what your saying. They don’t say it about anyone else. They think he’s really alive.
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