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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
your response in post #2368385 seemed to imply to me that you weren’t interested in having an intelligent conversation.
I have no problem having an intelligent conversation, but when I already answered your question, and you think I didn’t, I think it’s fair to ask what you think was unclear and to answer your multiple choice question by saying the answers weren’t all listed.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDid you see posts #2366100 and #2366104?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCould be; sounded to me like he davka sits when called for an aliyah. If you’re right, he sits regardless of whether he or someone else is called up.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSocial Security does rely on current taxes to make current payments- this is exactly how it follows a Ponzi Scheme.
Ok, but the similarity pretty much ends there (in your opinion there’s another similarity that they’re both doomed to fail, but I disagree)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI can distill the differences to one simple idea.
SS and a Ponzi scheme are very different transactions.
SS is a tax used to pay retired people (and other non workers eng. due to disability). Nobody is paying in under false pretenses, they are simply being forced to pay a tax.
In a Ponzi scheme, people are misled into thinking they are investigating in a legitimate business or fund which is actually not occurring; rather, some of the $ is going into the pockets of the people running it, and some pays off previous “investors” just to keep the scheme from being exposed for as long as possible.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNot sure where that came from.
I’m saying it’s not A, B is true, but there are other differences as I mentioned in previous posts.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDr. Pepper, it seems that many feel that there aren’t enough shadchanim, so why would making it harder to be a shadchan be of benefit?
I know of plenty of shidduchim met by family and friends who “dabble in shidduchim”.
It makes no sense to eliminate that.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRefuah Sheleima.
I’m not getting something – why are you standing to begin with, that you have to sit down when they call you for an Aliyah?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCS actually tried answering that, but it was a nonsensical answer.
She said because he was not known to ever do an aveirah.
It’s nonsensical because even if that were true,
A) he may have done aveiros privately
B) As someone pointed out, that’s not the only criterion☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMy answer is A. Social Security is paid by current taxes.
I think we are understanding A differently
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantE, F, G, and H.
B is also true.
So it’s not a Ponzi scheme, despite A.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIf you want, I can tack on more factors which distinguish SS from a Ponzi scheme.
The actual collection of funds is a tax, which the government can levy by legal force, as opposed to a Ponzi scheme where monies being “deposited” are volunteered.
In a Ponzi scheme, the purpose of payouts is to keep the scheme looking legitimate. In SS, the purpose of the payouts is provide assistance to the recipients.
I’m sure I could come up with more, but don’t think I even needed to add these…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat was unclear?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou’re referring to curriculum, which is not the same thing as derech halimud.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantGovernment mandated or not- if the funds coming in are not enough to payout the funds due the entire system will collapse.
Maybe. It’s still not a Ponzi scheme, even if it’s not going to last.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am not sure what the issue is: being a US citizen obligates you.
The issue is proving that assertion. Restating it doesn’t provide proof.
https://www.yutorah.org/ lectures/889411/Expatriate-Taxation-in-Halachah
Are there any sources there which address this question?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantGive me a proof that it means you have to follow the laws of another country in which you don’t even live.
This is a good point
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAlso, in a Ponzi scheme, if the investors decide to withdraw too quickly, the scheme falls apart. With SS, they can’t “withdraw” more than the regular payment.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo, if I start a Ponzi scheme and make it clear that it’s a Ponzi scheme and that there is no underlying asset, that would be okay? Because that’s exactly what Social Security does.
Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme.
In a Ponzi scheme, when the incoming funds dry up, the initial investors lose.
In SS, the incoming funds are government mandated so won’t dry up, and if necessary, the government would back it with other funds.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo then don’t connect to their network? I’m sorry, but at some point there has to be a level of personal responsibility. You could also just say “get rid of the filter and you have a fully functional smartphone in your hands.” Fully functional smart phones will always be available, it’s just about putting more steps in the way of accessing it.
Sorry, you can’t compare the ability to buy a smartphone to having one and simply needing to connect with a wifi network.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant@JR87 see this post.
(Post #2359769)
He is asking what to do in cases where it’s too late….
AAQ- there are always solutions and strategies if you are being proactive. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. That is obviously the ideal. The problem is with taxpayers who make decisions without even realizing it could be problematic (sometimes not even realizing they are subject to US tax) and by the time the realization hits, it’s too late and they are legally subject to extremely expensive and seemingly punitive tax rules.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThis is true, but there’s really no reason that it needs to be true.
It’s human nature
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTo be fair, however, if you’re now going full 180 and saying white shirts negatively affect people, therefore there’s a maalah in colored shirts, then your colored shirt is actually causing you to have more gaavah than a white one would and serving the opposite of its purpose.
This is a good point, and then they don’t even get the maaleh of a white shirt! (The association with the oilam hayehivos)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYour familiarity with it shows that you’ve also probably come across people in the frum world who use it.
Actually I saw that it can be used with Android Auto so suggested it to someone for that purpose, and they responded that everyone knows that the CAT phone is a smartphone.
I reject the notion that regular flip phones (e.g. Orbic Journey) are the same as full size smartphones.
They definitely don’t function as well or easily, making use of them for anything other than basic calling and texting cumbersome and unappealing. This makes it much less likely for someone to get hooked on it like you see with smartphones.
When they’re TAGged (or similar) they’re pretty much the same as the old flip phones.
Most people with smartphones, even filtered, use them for much more than just calling and texting. That’s the reality.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRepeat that back to yourself. Bravo
Please. We’re not in kindergarten.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThose who know The Rebbe say not…
Not all…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe Rebbe, an absolute tzaddik, referred to the Frierdiker Rebbe as Moshiach
So why do you insist that the Rebbe is Moshiach rather than his shver?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAs you can see, I’m not afraid.
Au contraire. I see you are afraid to answer, which just begs the question why you started this thread.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou think Trump runs America
Don’t put words in my mouth.
He runs America the same way the Rebbe used to run 770.and The Rebbe doesn’t run anything.
What logical reason would one think a person who is in the עולם האמת runs anything in any sense?☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJMN, I think Lav Davka answered your question very well.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNC: The CAT is a smartphone that flips. There are still flip phones, which although do need filtering, aren’t smartphones.
Ard, how do white shirts affect the person negatively?
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantand think he’s some kind of Elvis (whatever that means…)
It means absolutely nothing because it’s a distortion of yours
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI wrote in about my S.T. challenges, and sent it in to the random online iggros
Do you think this is normal?
“like every other frum Yid”???
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’m sorry that to you, Moshiach is xtian.
That’s a distortion of what he said.
Because you have a distorted view of what Moshiach is
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYes, just like every other group of frum yidden.
Nope. We don’t necessarily follow or agree with every group’s mehalach, but Chabad is pretty unique in doing things outside the pale of normative Yiddishkeit.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHe’s already set up and was never known to bee stupid
Wow. The gaavah and stupidity is amazing. You think Moshe Rabbeinu needs to be set up.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participanthow many “alive” Rebbes can boast of the number of The Rebbe’s shluchim post gimmel tammuz?
Wonderful accomplishment. But he’s still dead.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNot singing Yechi about a person who was niftar is actually normal and sane.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTalk to a Lubavitcher in person for further info
It sounds like you’re afraid to explain in plain English….
I wonder why…☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOne of the things that yiddishkeit is known for is that we don’t proselytize to get more people to join our faith
What are you talking about? We definitely believe in kiruv.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRov minyan ubinyan of gdolei yisrael disagreed with him on most of his rabid anti zionist views.
Only in how to deal with the reality of the State of Israel, not the actual hisnagdus.
See R’ Reuven Grozovsky’s בעיות הזמן. (He is referring to the נטורי קרתא of his day, not to be confused with the contemporary clowns/reshoim who stole the name).
See also the Steipler’s letters (קרייינא דאיגרתא)☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStill waiting…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStill waiting for CS to explain how not singing Yechi (i.e. believing the Rebbe is still alive) comes from the influence of Amalek.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant741, I think these technicalities miss the heart of the issue.
CS can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m under the impression that she regularly asks for Rebbe’s assistance (via brachos, etc.) even when not at the Ohel.My impression is that most drum Yidden reserve it for an occasion here and there and particularly at the kever of whichever tzadik is being asked to intercede.
I don’t believe that any other chassidus focuses its tefilod and a odas Hashem on their Rebbe in any way comparable to how some Chabad chassidim do with their (no longer alive) rebbe.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStill waiting
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStill waiting for a straightforward answer to my question
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPart 2: because they know of the Dvar Malchus and still lack gaon Yaakov
Please explain
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantbut are too ashamed to even sing yechi in their own shuls
So they’re Amalek because they don’t think the rebbe is still alive?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAnother question: you wrote “You won’t believe it but most of Lubavitch is more infected with Amalek on this topic”.
Which beliefs do some fellow Lubavitchers have which, in your opinion, are caused by being infected with Amalek?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCS, you realize that those answers are vague
“Instead of Hashem”
That wasn’t qualified. Sounds like you might think c”v he is Hashem.“Again PB TANYA”
Please explain if that changes the simple meaning of what you said.“Yes and no. Depends what planet you live on”
We are on Planet Earth. Now please answer the question.
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