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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
more people than you’d think are not sold on filters yet
The OP is sold on filters. He just doesn’t want to pay for one.
This is the whole point of TAGNo, their point is to encourage and help facilitate installing filters. Their mission is not to pay for them.
As I said, I would have no problem if filters were subsidized/paid for, but the reality is there isn’t currently funding for it, and it’s unfair to blame any organization for that, and nobody should use that yo justify using an unfiltered device.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIn the current world, even a bochur needs at least minimal access to web-based apps for purposes of updates on emergency situations, online banking and bill pay, summoning an Uber/Lyft for transportation needs, purchasing an airline ticket or changing reserverations, etc. Those who question the need for ANY computer or smart phone either live in a cave or suggesting others do so.
Tell that to the thousands of yeshiva bochurim who don’t have regular access to the internet.
You are the one living in a cave if you think bochurim can’t live without it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’m all in favor of subsidized or even free filters.
What I’m against is people feeling they are entitled to it, and using that as an excuse to be on an unfiltered device.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThey should be offering free filters
If you would sponsor it, they probably would.
Unless you know that TAG has plenty of money lying around and are still not sponsoring free filters, I don’t think it’s fair to let it on them more than on anyone else.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantStart with spending time with the child
The OP in this case is the child
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAs far as I know, TAG doesn’t charge for installation, but the filter companies do charge for the filters.
It’s expensive to develop and constantly update the software, and they have people on call 24 hours a day to open sites as needed, so I don’t think they’re overcharging.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t know if that’s considered “exorbitant”, but it’s a necessity, not a luxury, especially for someone who’s struggling.
It would be nice if everything we needed would be sponsored as a chessed, but if it’s not, we can’t shirk our responsibilities with the excuse that someone else should have paid for it.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTechloq is $12.99 per month or $139 annually.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThis isn’t בית דין
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think they want to have some sort of certification and, hopefully, meaningful education. They want stop you from offering a shidduch same way as hairdresser union is not going to stop movers from cutting their child’s hair (or will they?).
I assume you mean that lack of certification will not prevent someone from suggesting a shidduch.
So an optional certification. Ok, but I don’t see that as changing anything in a meaningful way.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHow would you create a barrier to entry?
Would that exclude family and friends from suggesting shidduchim?☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHow do you propose to make shadchanus into a profession?
Will that exclude some from suggesting shidduchim and carrying it through? If so, who will it exclude?
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant“Stam” meaning not family and friends.
If you meant something else, please explain.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant“There’s a difference between a friend or family member who dabbles in shidduchim verses a shadchan whose only training and experience is that they “dabble” in shidduchim”
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAll Biden asked for is Israel to hold back from destroying Hamas. Nothing major, right Yechiell?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI thought you could perhaps reach out to Mendy Kotlarsky…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMS, is there any way you can check on her and see if she’s getting the help she needs?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCs used to be Chabad Shlucha and then she shortened it to cs and now she’s back to being Chabad Shelucha again
But these are different accounts
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAt what point did “CS” become “Chabad Shlucha” and is the same person behind both accounts?
Menachem Shmei, you’re not doing a very good job of representing Chabad Shlucha 🤣
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantApparently Elon Musk thinks Social Security is a big Ponzi scheme.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant🤯
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDr. Pepper, where do you draw the line between “friends and family” who dabble in shidduchim vs. stam people who dabble in shidduchim?
And I still say that reducing the number of shadchanim isn’t going to help.
Also I would imagine that plenty of shadchanim who you may think are incompetent have made lots of shidduchim.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantyour response in post #2368385 seemed to imply to me that you weren’t interested in having an intelligent conversation.
I have no problem having an intelligent conversation, but when I already answered your question, and you think I didn’t, I think it’s fair to ask what you think was unclear and to answer your multiple choice question by saying the answers weren’t all listed.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDid you see posts #2366100 and #2366104?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCould be; sounded to me like he davka sits when called for an aliyah. If you’re right, he sits regardless of whether he or someone else is called up.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSocial Security does rely on current taxes to make current payments- this is exactly how it follows a Ponzi Scheme.
Ok, but the similarity pretty much ends there (in your opinion there’s another similarity that they’re both doomed to fail, but I disagree)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI can distill the differences to one simple idea.
SS and a Ponzi scheme are very different transactions.
SS is a tax used to pay retired people (and other non workers eng. due to disability). Nobody is paying in under false pretenses, they are simply being forced to pay a tax.
In a Ponzi scheme, people are misled into thinking they are investigating in a legitimate business or fund which is actually not occurring; rather, some of the $ is going into the pockets of the people running it, and some pays off previous “investors” just to keep the scheme from being exposed for as long as possible.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNot sure where that came from.
I’m saying it’s not A, B is true, but there are other differences as I mentioned in previous posts.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDr. Pepper, it seems that many feel that there aren’t enough shadchanim, so why would making it harder to be a shadchan be of benefit?
I know of plenty of shidduchim met by family and friends who “dabble in shidduchim”.
It makes no sense to eliminate that.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRefuah Sheleima.
I’m not getting something – why are you standing to begin with, that you have to sit down when they call you for an Aliyah?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCS actually tried answering that, but it was a nonsensical answer.
She said because he was not known to ever do an aveirah.
It’s nonsensical because even if that were true,
A) he may have done aveiros privately
B) As someone pointed out, that’s not the only criterion☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMy answer is A. Social Security is paid by current taxes.
I think we are understanding A differently
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantE, F, G, and H.
B is also true.
So it’s not a Ponzi scheme, despite A.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIf you want, I can tack on more factors which distinguish SS from a Ponzi scheme.
The actual collection of funds is a tax, which the government can levy by legal force, as opposed to a Ponzi scheme where monies being “deposited” are volunteered.
In a Ponzi scheme, the purpose of payouts is to keep the scheme looking legitimate. In SS, the purpose of the payouts is provide assistance to the recipients.
I’m sure I could come up with more, but don’t think I even needed to add these…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat was unclear?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou’re referring to curriculum, which is not the same thing as derech halimud.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantGovernment mandated or not- if the funds coming in are not enough to payout the funds due the entire system will collapse.
Maybe. It’s still not a Ponzi scheme, even if it’s not going to last.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am not sure what the issue is: being a US citizen obligates you.
The issue is proving that assertion. Restating it doesn’t provide proof.
https://www.yutorah.org/ lectures/889411/Expatriate-Taxation-in-Halachah
Are there any sources there which address this question?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantGive me a proof that it means you have to follow the laws of another country in which you don’t even live.
This is a good point
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAlso, in a Ponzi scheme, if the investors decide to withdraw too quickly, the scheme falls apart. With SS, they can’t “withdraw” more than the regular payment.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo, if I start a Ponzi scheme and make it clear that it’s a Ponzi scheme and that there is no underlying asset, that would be okay? Because that’s exactly what Social Security does.
Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme.
In a Ponzi scheme, when the incoming funds dry up, the initial investors lose.
In SS, the incoming funds are government mandated so won’t dry up, and if necessary, the government would back it with other funds.☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo then don’t connect to their network? I’m sorry, but at some point there has to be a level of personal responsibility. You could also just say “get rid of the filter and you have a fully functional smartphone in your hands.” Fully functional smart phones will always be available, it’s just about putting more steps in the way of accessing it.
Sorry, you can’t compare the ability to buy a smartphone to having one and simply needing to connect with a wifi network.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant@JR87 see this post.
(Post #2359769)
He is asking what to do in cases where it’s too late….
AAQ- there are always solutions and strategies if you are being proactive. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. That is obviously the ideal. The problem is with taxpayers who make decisions without even realizing it could be problematic (sometimes not even realizing they are subject to US tax) and by the time the realization hits, it’s too late and they are legally subject to extremely expensive and seemingly punitive tax rules.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThis is true, but there’s really no reason that it needs to be true.
It’s human nature
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTo be fair, however, if you’re now going full 180 and saying white shirts negatively affect people, therefore there’s a maalah in colored shirts, then your colored shirt is actually causing you to have more gaavah than a white one would and serving the opposite of its purpose.
This is a good point, and then they don’t even get the maaleh of a white shirt! (The association with the oilam hayehivos)
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYour familiarity with it shows that you’ve also probably come across people in the frum world who use it.
Actually I saw that it can be used with Android Auto so suggested it to someone for that purpose, and they responded that everyone knows that the CAT phone is a smartphone.
I reject the notion that regular flip phones (e.g. Orbic Journey) are the same as full size smartphones.
They definitely don’t function as well or easily, making use of them for anything other than basic calling and texting cumbersome and unappealing. This makes it much less likely for someone to get hooked on it like you see with smartphones.
When they’re TAGged (or similar) they’re pretty much the same as the old flip phones.
Most people with smartphones, even filtered, use them for much more than just calling and texting. That’s the reality.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRepeat that back to yourself. Bravo
Please. We’re not in kindergarten.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThose who know The Rebbe say not…
Not all…
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe Rebbe, an absolute tzaddik, referred to the Frierdiker Rebbe as Moshiach
So why do you insist that the Rebbe is Moshiach rather than his shver?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAs you can see, I’m not afraid.
Au contraire. I see you are afraid to answer, which just begs the question why you started this thread. -
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