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JF02- Expressing emotions over emes is not inappropriate. It is not called letting my emotions take over. It’s called being passionate about the truth and being sonei sheker. First, you have to decide, unemotionally, what is truth and what is lie. Then, you should follow the truth “bchol levavcha.” Letting emotions take over means to let your decisions and hashkafas of right and wrong be made on an emotional (rather than logical) basis.
CuriosityParticipantwritersoul – thanks for the spelling fix; I knew mine didn’t look right for some reason but couldn’t quite put my finger on it.
I’m not saying the ASPCA will cause bestial marriages. I’m saying the success of their form of advertising indicates that people sympathize with those commercials, which, if you’ve seen them, give the impression that helping an animal is the most noble of causes. The fact that it can pass as mainstream is very saddening to me. Also, please, don’t put words in my mouth. never said people shouldn’t have pets. But, obviously, if someone loves the family dog as much as they love their child or sibling, that is not right. Finally, I have every right in the world to publicly express what I see as basic daas Torah, without bossing around or personally giving tochachah to an individual person. If what I say rubs you the wrong way, don’t read it. If you think you have a source from Chazal to convince me and other likeminded individuals differently, please share it.
CuriosityParticipantYou want me to apologize for being as passionate about my beliefs as the ASPCA and PETA are about theirs? I will not.
CuriosityParticipantThanks for the support PBA.
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20 years ago, being homosexual was taboo. Today, it’s taboo to be “intolerant” of homosexuals. Chazal say Hashem brought the flood when people started officially practicing legal marriages between homosexuals and beastial relationships.
If I wanted to describe to you someone who doesn’t keep kashrus, I would never say, “He eats cheeseburgers, and he also isn’t too careful with washing his lettuce for bugs.” Those are very far apart and are irrelevant to eachother. Both are deoraysas, but are clearly not on the same level of dikduk. I may say, “He eats cheeseburgers, and he also eats bacon,” because those are more similar.
Likewise, if beastial marriages were so far removed from homosexual marriages Chazal would never bother to mention homosexual marriages in the same sentence. They are very close together, and just like the moral fabric of society has so severely decayed in the last 20 years regarding homosexual marriages, we should be very aware that the same thing will and is happening regarding beastial relationships. First it starts with prioritizing the needs of animals alongside those of people’s, then the love one has for an animal becomes on par with those shared with humans, and the final step is to cross that small threshold of turning those relationships into sexual encounters – as unpalatable as that sounds. I would not be surprised if, by the time I have grandkids, bills to permit beastial marriages would be going through Congress.
That’s why I find these commercials to be disgraceful. I lament humanity’s sinking so low so as to have gotten to where we are today…
CuriosityParticipantWritersoul – that’s a well known halacha, but completely irrelevant. Nobody here is denying the existence of the mitzvah/aveirah of TBC. The point is that you have no responsibility to go around looking for animals to help – especially if on your path to help those animals, you neglect humans that need help.
What bothers me is that these organisations take away charity money that might have otherwise gone to feed-the-children type of organisations. Also, the way they over-inflate how important their cause is in their commercials disturbs me. I may have a sarcastic and cynical style of writing, but my main point is that it bothers me that society is almost at the point of treating animals as equals to humans. Beastial marriages are not hard to imagine anymore.
CuriosityParticipantThanks, Morah. So… because you disagree with my strong feelings over my hashkafah of prioritizing the welfare of children to the welfare of kittens, I’m a disgrace and have no life? Never heard that from a morah before, but I can totally live with that… 🙂
CuriosityParticipantjf02 – I certainly do not need to – nor is it appropriate for me to have to justify why we eat animals when Hashem permits it (and sometimes demands it), black on white.
CuriosityParticipant… but Popa… who’s gonna wash the dishes?!
CuriosityParticipantJf02 -we, as Jews, don’t really believe in that distinction. The reason we don’t eat dog should be because it’s treif. To address your first point, I don’t care if you think I have hate (you also just happen to be wrong). Also, I did not judge the merit of donating money to the ASPCA when you could donate it to anee’im or Torah Mosdos, Hashem did. He elucidated this judgment to us through Halacha. We have an obligation to view the world through the lens of that halacha and distinguish between right and wrong. Giving money to animals when there are humans standing in line is a no-brainer.
P.S. the reason I used the term “liberal love” has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the tendency of the liberal left and their sympathizers to misplace compassion. (Ever heard the term “bleeding-heart liberal?” It didn’t stick for nought.)
CuriosityParticipantIt may be a mitzvah to throw your leftover chicken bones to a starving dog instead of to the garbage can, but that’s not because it’s good for the dog, it’s because it’s bad for your middos to purposefully throw it in the garbage while watching the dog outside starve.
CuriosityParticipantAlso, we, as humans, have an obligation to not mistreat our world. That obligation manifests in various ways such as the prohibition of tzaar baalei chayim and baal tashchit. However, we absolutely do NOT have an obligation, or even a mitzvah, to adopt stray animals for the sake of saving them from starvation or “to provide them with love”. That’s completely misplaced compassion.
CuriosityParticipantIt’s not hatred, it’s disappointment. I’m disappointed with humanity that prioritizes helping animals over other human beings in need. I have nothing against wildlife, and I love nature and think it is beautiful, BUT there is no reason one dime of anyone’s money should go to feed a terminally ill, 3 legged street cat that was abused by its owners for years and forced into hard labor, if instead it could go towards making an orphaned child slightly happier. Just because I know how to control my compassion with daas Torah, does not make me full of “hatred.” Just because your emotions get the best of you when you watch these commercials, that doesn’t mean that it’s a good cause. Would you be as inclined to help save a drowning ant hill with hundreds of thousands of ant lives, as you would just one adorable little cute puppy with a broken leg? NO… you wouldn’t! It’s because you fall prey to your misplaced emotions, not because you care about Hashem’s creations. Stop fooling yourself.
CuriosityParticipantI would like to ‘coplain’ about the horrible spelling of the OP.
July 1, 2013 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm in reply to: Cutting off cars waiting on line�rude or not? #963436CuriosityParticipantUnless you are having an emergency, it’s disgusting and inconsiderate, and the fact that it is common in your city reflects a level of selfishness and rudeness that is not commonplace throughout the rest of the country, yet.
CuriosityParticipantWhy not go for a bas Eisav while you’re at it?
CuriosityParticipantCheery, that wouldn’t really work unless the wires were hot enough to burn the files. Since the flies are only landing directly on the wire they are not grounded and will not conduct a current.
CuriosityParticipantPBA +5 … had a good laugh from the Moshe in the Midbar line.
Anyone seen pics of alter-bochurim from the 40s and 50s in their shpitzy pinstriped gray suits and short brimmed, white, straw hats? Suspenders, tobacco pipes, and all the bells and whistles… Quite the well dressed boys they were, back when today’s gedolim were in still in beis midrash.
CuriosityParticipantWow… Let’s close this topic and move it along. Nothing left to see here. Starting to feel bad for the OP… Not that I’m any less guilty of the much needed bashing and putting-someone-in-their-place that just went on here.
JF02- You better jump ship because the one you are on is going down really fast! :O
CuriosityParticipantIt’s usually pretty obvious which room in the house is the master bedroom, just by the layout of the house. Even if I’ve never been in somebody’s home before, it’s usually quite easy to tell which bedroom is located where, just by seeing the location of the bedroom door. Not to mention that kids’ rooms often have signs and drawings hanging on their bedroom doors and are almost always located in proximity to the second bathroom. At least that’s the way it is in my part of the country.
I don’t know where you live, but I find it highly suspicious that you couldn’t figure out which was the guest bedroom on the first or second guess, and had to try every single door in the house before finally finding the guest bedroom. Then you take offense that they don’t trust you? I say they were justified in their suspicions, and now you are on the defensive. Just say thank you, and stop being so snoopy.
CuriosityParticipantOOM-Exactly what I was thinking.
SG, maybe you should be thankful that they lend out their home to you instead of taking offense that they don’t blindly trust you with all of their worldly possessions? It’s a bit ungrateful, don’t you think?
CuriosityParticipantThanks for sharing! I loled, except it was actually out loud…
CuriosityParticipantPBA, just play along 😉
CuriosityParticipantDon’t leave, Shopping613!!!
CuriosityParticipantyytz- See your last word on the post I responded to. I just found your choice of phrasing a bit offensive.
CuriosityParticipantyytz, I don’t think you should take it upon yourself to “validate” the Rambam’s halachos. Also, there is obvious logic behind the notion of not walking immediately after eating. When you digest food your body sends blood to your stomach to help it digest. Walking around puts an additional strain on other muscles and thereby compels your body to ration out more blood to your leg muscles, as well.
June 21, 2013 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm in reply to: 8 BILLION dollars spent on nothing every year! #960448CuriosityParticipantUmmm… what?
CuriosityParticipantHaifagirl, (your name should be capitalized). I’m not sure about this, but don’t periods go outside parentheses?
June 20, 2013 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm in reply to: 8 BILLION dollars spent on nothing every year! #960446CuriosityParticipantSummary: “You are wrong.” 😉
June 20, 2013 6:21 am at 6:21 am in reply to: 8 BILLION dollars spent on nothing every year! #960436CuriosityParticipantIt’s really not that much money, on a global scale.
CuriosityParticipant(just kidding) =P
CuriosityParticipantMake me a sandwich!
June 19, 2013 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm in reply to: 8 BILLION dollars spent on nothing every year! #960434CuriosityParticipantShopping 613- electricity cannot be “used up,” since it is just the movement of charged particles. What you really mean is energy is wasted. Consider that the technology used to generate and store the energy you are so concerned about wasting was invented using ideas that were learned from experiments not unlike this one.
CuriosityParticipantrebdoniel. The Noda B’yehuda disagrees with your assertion. According to his psak lehalacha it is only tzaar baalei chayim if you maim an animal with the intention to leave it alive. If you shoot to kill it is not TBC – independent of your reasons for shooting it. Furthermore, it is not called baal tashchis unless you have no reason to kill it. Possible reasons for killing an animal could be for population control, to harvest their skins/feathers/horns or to prevent them from damaging property such as in the case of wild boar or other mazikim. He doesn’t speak highly of recreational hunting for middos reasons, but you should have your facts straight.
CuriosityParticipantOh Shreck !
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June 5, 2013 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm in reply to: Comments on Tests – for the high school students #957195CuriosityParticipantI’m sorry, this sort of private messaging posters is not appropriate for this venue.
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CuriosityParticipantThat’s definitely a LOR question, dude. Good luck.
May 28, 2013 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm in reply to: Thoughts on Someone Selling His Olam Habah on Ebay #971208CuriosityParticipantRip off…If someone has sunk low enough that they are ready to sell their olam haba on eBay, they probably don’t have $99,000 worth of it. =P
CuriosityParticipantThanks for the warm welcome OOM!
I agree with you, but consider that people don’t just get their hashkafas from a unified priest-class of rabbeim who have received their smicha from the 70 zkeinim. People get their haskafas hachayim from parents, friends, siblings, and the society in which they live – something that can vastly vary by a factor as minute as the neighborhood they find themselves in.
So, yeah, maybe everyone is capable of learning the proper haskafas, but not everyone has access to this knowledge, and surely not everyone (including rabbeim and morahs) are equipped to teach it properly to the ones who are fortunate enough to have access to this knowledge. And so society -as a whole- veers from its original trajectory as set by Moshe Rabbeinu at Har Sinay. The further we are from the proverbial “ground zero” of the giving of the Torah with all its proper hashkafas, the larger this snowballing effect is. In other words, as more time passes, we lose our grip on the one absolute truth, and it starts giving way to the effects of society and the invasion of ideas & haskafas foreign to the original truth. In addition, our level of incapability at retaining and transmitting this Truth to our next generation is supplemented by stigmas and “societal norms” which evolve to mimic as best as possible the True hashkafa (which we are simply too ignorant to transmit properly). This is why it was accepted for Devorah to be a shofetet, for Miriam to write a shira, and for Rashi’s daughters to wear tfillin, when, if they were alive today we’d throw them in the same pit as the women of the wall – lehavdil. I hope I made sense…
CuriosityParticipantDY – neither… even according to the “oyers” it should be See-nuy not See-noy. And anyways, mihaychi taysi that it’s supposed to rhyme in the first place? Sorry, but that’s a very weak proof, if at all one.
CuriosityParticipantOOM, I am a non-feminist, an anti-feminist even, but I don’t disagree with what you wrote. Our insular society has to create superfluous fences and precautions around the obligatory base tenets for the same reason that every other human society does; because the letter of the law will disintegrate if left up to the average individual. Sure, if everyone was as honest about their motives and thought out as you are we wouldn’t need to stigmatize feminism, but that simply isn’t the case. People generally do what makes them feel good while putting in just enough thought as to avoid doing something that will sit uncomfortably on their conscience. There surely are situations in which a woman (or a man) is given natural abilities or characteristics that empower them outside of their accepted social sphere of influence; that’s where you will find the rebbetzins who started beis yaakov movements, or lehavdil, became prophetesses or judges in Tanach. The problem lies in the fact that the vast majority of people do not have the Torah hashkafa to know whether what they are doing is a mitzvah or a pritzus geder, and so we, as a society, have to dissuade the average person from breaking out of the norm because 99 times out of 100 people will lack the knowledge, seichel, and daas Torah, and they will do the wrong thing even though they think they are doing a mitzvah. -IMHO
CuriosityParticipantTry the gemaras in Yuma 38b, Sanhedrin 39b, and Nedarim 62a. Good luck.
CuriosityParticipantSo OP, which game is this that has you so addicted? I’ve been looking for a good Android game! 😀
CuriosityParticipantAwwww so beautiful. Shkoyach to you WIY, for beating down your own ego – you are a gavra. Sam2, always nice to read your posts. I still remember having my first real discussion on the CR with you. I hope all is well with you. =)
CuriosityParticipantI can tell you what divergent series are.. and they definitely are “dreadful,” but I’ve never heard of them being called “modern.”
CuriosityParticipantThey are equal. Consider this:
hence,
1=0.999…
The reason this is difficult to grasp is because people have a hard time conceptualizing infinity. On some level, everyone imagines that at the end of the .999… on the outskirts of infinity, there is one final 9; when in reality, that final 9 does not exist.
CuriosityParticipantT613, I believe your subtitle is missing a dTorah on the end. In which case it would evaluate to 613/3*Torah^3 + C … sorry; it’s Spring break, and I’m having calculus withdrawals.
CuriosityParticipantAll I could think while reading this was, why doesn’t the ‘older’ guy marry an ‘older’ girl?
CuriosityParticipantMobe613, I hope you are wearing a baseball cap while posting all this stuff… so you don’t make a chilul Hashem.
CuriosityParticipantIf you are looking for options, you can find the degrees offered by these colleges on their respective websites. If you are looking for personal advice, you are not providing enough information about your strengths and interests for anyone who doesn’t personally know you to be of any help.
March 3, 2013 6:18 am at 6:18 am in reply to: Facebook Is To Blame For Rising Orthodox Jewish Divorce Rate? #935286CuriosityParticipantDolphina. I used to have facebook for a long time, and quit. And yes, I do believe that it’s a negative influence on many, many people (not all)… which is why I quit.
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