Curiosity

NOMTW – I strongly disagree with your first premise. Getting a second opinion is very important, and does not show a lack of maturity. Farkert, it shows maturity in that you are willing to take into consideration the advice of others and that you don’t arrogantly look at yourself as an expert on everything.

There is a Torah shmooze on Nadav & Avihu, the sons of Aaron, that states that if they had consulted with each other before bringing in the aish zara they wouldn’t have went through with it, and their lives would have been spared. It’s interesting because they both did the exact same action, and they did it together. You wouldn’t think that simply speaking out what they were doing to one another would have made a difference, but chaz”al teach us that it would have made all the difference.

‘Never trust a man with two first names,’ I always say.

….Well that’s not true… I never say that. ‘Never trust a politician,’ though. That I really do always say.

rabbiofberlin – I disagree. I learned in a non Satmar, Litvish Yeshiva, and the way we were taught the mesorah is that it was against halacha to take the land away from the goyim to build a state on it. Especially a non Torah observant state in the name of Jews. But, since it de facto stands today as a country with many Jews living in it, we must do our hishtadlus to ensure their well being by supporting the security of the state. We also do everything we can to help Torah authorities take positions of power in its government. Lastly, I’ve heard a respected rav from the yeshiva call it “reishis tzmichas geulateinu” when saying mi sheberachs for Jewish soldiers, and I feel as though it is safe to assume he was acting in line with the Yeshiva mesorah. I’m not sure how other Yeshivas understand the Gemara.

If I could, I would give other people’s threads tags.

Moskidoodle – do you remove your nose prior to eating?

I don’t understand why this discussion has degraded into who is pro- or against the medina. It’s totally irrelevant! I am very pro the medina, but I hold it’s krum as a pretzel!

It’s not a paradox to wish for the continued well being of the de-facto State of Israel, but at the same time to realize the establishment was against our promise to the nations (as is brought down in maseches Ksubos), and to admit that the current character of the country is a far cry away from Torah ideals. We don’t support the methods of the Israeli government, but we wish for their continued existence for the sake of the lives of all of the Jewish inhabitants there who are in a tremendous makom sakana 24/7.

The national anthem is a man-made (not Torah based) song of praise to the democratic establishment of the state. The Torah does not believe in democracy, and therefore neither should we. When Mashiach comes and the gedolei hador write a national anthem in honor of the reestablishment of malchus Dovid, we can sing that song at the Siyum Hashas. Deal?

557 – I was assuming you were going with the classical interpretation of rodef and nirdaf. How can one 2 dimensional point by a rodef? Furthermore, a nirdaf is allowed to kill a rodef. Assuming they were both people, moving at sprinting pace, a gun would have worked for either of them.

If they’re in a “closed” two dimensional circle (I guess this can be imagined like a circular pair of train tracks), and they both move at light speed, then they can’t catch eachother unless one of them breaks the circle…. Or if the rodef blocks the circle with some object and then corners the nirdaf on it.. your rules aren’t very clear.

Moskidoodle – stupider isn’t a word, but thank you for the insult.

“The medina was the start of the geula”

– true. So was the holocaust. It doesn’t mean we should celebrate it. The building of the medina by the atheist zionists was probably more spiritually destructive to klall Yisrael than anything in the past 100 years. Furthermore, it was assur to establish the state, and it’s very bedi’eved. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Neturei Karta, they’re totally evil. De facto, Israel exists and we must support it to protect our interests, but we shouldn’t love governments that are rooted in anything but the Derech Hashem. Neither Israel nor the USA are that. We say thank you, but we don’t sing their songs of praise and become nationalists like their godless masses. This whole thread is a non-issue. Anyone with any semblance of a Yeshiva education realizes that trying to argue this is daas Torah is completely baseless and absurd.

OMG Yessss! People see me holding a motorcycle helmet and they’re like, “hey, do you ride a bike?” I’ll sometimes say, “Nope. Formula 1 racecar,” with a perfectly straight face. If they just say, “Oh,” that’s when you know they’re a lost cause.

I am intolerant of tolerance. If God says it’s okay, then it’s okay.

Sometimes, when the full moon comes out, I turn into a cynical troll.

Zeeskite – that’s just crossing the line. Why do happy go lucky people feel like they always have the right to ruin the bitter cynical people’s days?

Nitpicker… The title is, stuff you “WOULDN’T” do to your worst enemy. In case you aren’t aware, “wouldn’t” is a conjunction of the words “would” and “not”. It’s the opposite of stuff you WOULD do. Get off your high horse. Just because you have no sense of humor doesn’t make everyone else wrong.

Haleivi. I know some masechtas in classical gemara publishers have a different perush in the exact same place and same font as R’ Chananel.. I think it’s R’ Gershom or something like that and Tosfos Yeshanim (I think that’s what it’s called it’s been a while since I looked at those gemaras). Are you sure you aren’t confusing the two?

moski, if your worst enemy is dumb enough to have money in their mouth when coming out of the yichud room, there’s nothing you can do to embarrass them. But that was a funny reply.

How about putting a few drops of Visine in someone’s coffee?

Was the food any good?

The Torah says don’t stray right or left. There is such a thing as going overboard in fumkite where the gemara states, “are the Torah’s own restrictions not enough for you that you need to create more?” Unfortunately we see it with people spitting on little girls whose clothes are the “wrong color”, and throwing rocks at cars on Shabbos. They think they’re being frum when in reality they are off the derech. Yes, the derech can be strayed off to the left AND to the right. Being off the derech doesn’t just start at rock throwing though, and we need gedolim to tell us what is the derech and what is not. Burqas are NOT the derech for our day and age, just like taking multiple wives is not the derech, and just like wearing tfillin all day is not the derech.

Sending this to my mother 🙂 English is her second language.

Using the internet is assur!!

A mamin – in defense of Health, “lefum tzara agra” works both ways. When a nisayon is more difficult you get punished less for tansgressing.

147 – trolling?

Shlishi – anyone can publish a book. The question is who?