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mommamia22…………….
Better for whom? The deceased or the survivors left behind chutz l’aretz?
Visiting and davening at the kever can bring comfort and closure to the surviving family members.
Each person should make his/her desires known to the family, as well as make financial preparations to carry out those wishes.
DO NOT rely on funeral/burial instructions in a will. Jews bury too quickly for a will to be probated and an executor appointed to carry out the instructions in the will.
My family does not send bodies for burial in EY. I can say that it is very comforting to visit 5 generations of our family in the family cemetery in Queens. When my children were pre-adolescents a visit to the family plots help to explain who we are and who we came from. It brought the family tree to life. Seeing the kever and praying at the kever of one for which you are named is a powerful and empowering thing.
You attempted to hijack the thread for a related question, the answer is that it is all about the relatives and their desires….
There is no one answer: better or worse.
Rebyidd23………
If you think garbage collecting is a thankless job, I wish you did it instead of the men who will receive the holiday thank you cards and checks I just made out.
It’s not my holiday, but those goyim who provide me with regular service: mailman, garbage men, newspaper carrier, etc. ALL get thanks…both written sentiment and $$$$ this time of year.
I love a really good cup of coffee. I’ve been drinking it for more than 55 years.
That said, I have paid for and pushed away or thrown out hundreds of cups of coffee, which were served to me or sold to me, that were not really good.
Sugar (real or artificial) and cream may cover up the shortcomings of an inferior cup, but I drink my coffee black. If it’s not really good, I can’t be bothered.
BTW>>>I don’t drink it for the caffeine rush or pick me up. In fact, it relaxes me. I often have a large mug just before I go to sleep for the night.
I don’t drink decaf or instant…I consider them a joke. If you enjoy them fine, I won’t belittle you.
Meno………..
Why you pay more if you wait to buy a plot when someone dies:
#1 you are at the most vulnerable point in your life. dealing with grief and overwhelmed with making plans.
If you need it fast you may be charged a premium for quick turn around, legal fees for deed, etc.
#2 An organization may hold you hostage for x number of years of membership dues, prepaid maintenance or perpetual care.
#3 You may not be prepared to lay out the required funds to by adjoining plots for other family members.
#4 Some cemeteries or associations allow plot owners to sell unwanted plots to the general public. These plots are often offered at prices well below what the cemetery’s current retail price. Chances are the owners (or their ancestors bought the plots years ago for a fraction of the going rate).
I posted above about the empty plots next to my maternal grandparents in Beth David..Elmont, LI, NY. My uncle is buried in Florida and my aunt will be interred next to him when the time comes. They have no descendants left in NY. The plots were purchased in 1967 for $500 each. If you try to buy direct from the cemetery today you pay more than $3000. Every year or so, my aunt runs a classified advt in a LI Anglo-Jewish paper offering the plots at her cost. Eventually, someone will decide that the price is a bargain, even if the plots are in a section for a Verein composed of Jews with roots in Bavaria. For you eastern European Jews…Verein is the Yekkische equivalent of a landsmannschaft
Yichusdik……………
NO!!!!!!!!!! It is NOT assault. Please see this attorney’s post>>>it is BATTERY. You post the common misconception of assault. Assault is putting someone into the fear of imminent bodily harm. Assault requires no contact. The victim must feel threatened by the words and actions of the assailant.
Battery is the unwanted and/or harmful touching of another without permission.
Often the charge is assault AND battery. The assailant threatens to punch the victim in the nose and follows through immediately with his fist. But if an assailant walks behind you, you don’t see him, and he smacks you on the head with a brick it is merely battery. You can’t be afraid of what you don’t know is coming in the immediate future.
Never buy before marriage (if you expect to marry at some point). You may find that your future spouse may come from a family that has plots, or has a strong desire to eventually be buried near his/her family.
My great grandfather bought 360 plots for a family cemetery back in 1919. My wife’s father had bought plots for his immediate family here in CT, but didn’t have the foresight to provide for sons-in law or grandchildren. We’ve told my eldest SIl that she can have Mrs’ CTL’s plot for her husband if needed, Mrs. CTL will be in our family in Queens after 120 years.
As to the age 30, 40, 50, etc. It depends upon when you have settled in a community and expect to remain there long term (for those not choose to ship remains to EY for internment). OOT, shul’s generally own the cemeteries and the plot may be free with membership. My maternal grandmother convinced my aunt and uncle to buy plots in Beth David (Elmont) when Opa died. Oma is buried there, but my aunt and uncle ended up making their permanent home in Florida, when he was niftar, she bought plots there as she would not be traveling to NY to bury him or visit his grave, their children and grandchildren are in Florida. Eventually the plots in NY will become abandoned property and be used for those unable to afford plots.
Git Meshuge…………
Cholent was NEVER ‘universally’ made the same way. The contents varies according to means and availability of ingredients, as well as the tastes of a particular community.
It gets its name from the French word Chaud….hot as corrupted by travel into the Jewish enclaves of Ashkenaz (Germany) them east to the Pale and Yiddish speaking communities.
It essence, it is a derivative of a French ‘pot au feu’ a pot on fire that contained beef broth as well as meat and vegetables, The pot stayed on a hook over the fire’s coals at all times in a home or inn and ingredients were added at will, leftover cuts of meat, vegetables and scrapings, some bits of starch such as potatoes (after 1500), barley, beans.
The way I cook in a kettle on a tripod by our cooking hearth is in this style. I often add what is left in a bottle of wine or beer or ale and leftover bits of meat and vegetables from the fridge, just as a French innkeeper or housewife might have done.
Everyone’s cholent is made to the cook’s whims or taste. My cholent made in the kettle has far more broth than the glop I have been served in many Litvish or Galitzianer homes. The cholent I make in a covered casserole in the brick wall oven by my fireplace is served on dinner plates as sliced pickled rolled beef roast with root vegetables and gravy on the side. This looks like a fine meal that might be served in a German Inn with vinegar based potato salad with onions and pickled red cabbage as the starch and veg sides.
I dare say that when my Great-great Grandmother was making cholent in Bavaria in the 1850s it was not of the same ingredients as that served in eastern Europe. My Grandmother, born in NYC in 1890 told me that she never encountered barley or beans in a cholent until invited for a Shabbos to my father’s grandmother’s home after my parents were engaged. Their lineage was Litvish and although arriving in the USA in 1868 they still made a starch dominated cholent that was thick and heavy.
Ash……………
It’s obvious you did not read and follow my post:
#1 have child checked by doctor and the doctor will report abuse if there is merit to the child’s version of the events.
After #4 I write:
“The above all assumes the action is true and that the child did not strike the adult first and he was forcibly removed in an act of self-defense.”
How dare you say I suggest punitive legal action without finding out the teacher’s version of the events?
Before you make accusations, make sure you read every word in a post, understand and digest them. Attorneys choose their words very carefully, even when posting under a nom de plum on social media sites such as the coffee room. I never suggested legal action without making sure the child’s version was accurate and that unwanted and unauthorized physical contact by a school employee occurred.
No information was given in the original post as to the jurisdiction where this occurred (or that it was made up). I regularly post that my legal opinions are as the law applies in CT. As posted, the school employee would be guilty of common law battery…’the unwanted and illegal touching of another’ In most states in the USA, corporal punishment by school employees of students is not legal.
BTW>>>The school principal I mentioned from a big city in CT had her appeal thrown out by a CT Appeals Court today, it had already been decided against her by a Federal judge when she claimed she was disciplined because she was Black. The abused children were also Black.
Abba/S………..
The original post suggests that the Principal put hands on the child and tossed him out the door. Why then talk to the principal?
As for other yeshivos not accepting a student who had been manhandled at yeshiva #1 and filed an abuse complaint, shame on them…they should be exposed and baal baatim should cut off funding. We must protect our children, not the abusers who work in chinuch
Geordie……….
Actually, we start serving Fruchtsuppe from Shavous to Rosh HaShanah, but as a starter, not a main course.
The main course of the meal from Tu B’Svat until Shavous is usually cold joints of Roast chicken, Turkey, goose or duck, asst. Aufscnitt, and salads (especially pickled red cabbage made with applesauce) and rosti, or a cucumber/onion salad, spaetzel, and asst breads and crackers. As an homage to the asst Litvish in-laws a potato kugel or onion/noodle pudding might grace the table.
This year, I’m attempting to cure and make my own Metwurst. I’ve not had a decent kosher supply available for the past dozen years. I make many of my own wursts and have a small brick smokehouse in the rear yards which gets lots of use. I smoke poultry as I use to get in Joburg in the 1970s for when we travel, as well as cold Shabbos lunches.
No, Lightbrite………..
911 is for emergencies as they are occurring and authorities are needed for immediate action. In this case the child is out of the building and the offender is not an immediate threat. One should call the regular phone number for the police.
Calling 911 for this type of incident could delay a call for a firetruck or ambulance needed to save a life
Mazel Tov….wish I could send a gift. But the coffee room never allows enough information for such contact. So, I’ll put extra amount in my next check to a Kallah’s fund in your honor
#1 have a doctor check the child out…he is a mandated reporter in most states and will contact police and Child Protective services if he find merit in the child’s version of the events
#2 Find a new school
#3 Contact the Board of Directors of the current school, tell what occurred, that you are immediately demanding withdrawal of all your children from the school and full and immediate refund of all tuition monies paid for the current term. Let them know that it they do not immediately comply you will institute legal action, which may lead to police and government involvement and adverse publicity.
#4 Find out if this adult has a teaching/administrator’s license (unusual in most yeshivos) and contact the licensing body for an investigation.
Monsters like this do not belong in contact with children.
The above all assumes the action is true and that the child did not strike the adult first and he was forcibly removed in an act of self-defense.
Disclaimer: CTLawyer has brought pro bono actions in the past on behalf of indigent children who have been manhandled or hit by teachers or administrators. Three years ago a principal in one of CT’s largest cities took two children and dragged them down the corridor by theirs ears because the kids were noisy in the lunchroom. She was suspended for 6 months no pay, while a criminal investigation took place. Found to be chargeable under the law, she was convicted of battery, lost her professional licenses, was fired and is facing civil suits by the parents.
Note to all adults: If it is not your child KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF!!!!!!!!!!! If it is your child, be very careful how and when you physically discipline them, a potch on tuchas in public could lead to a social sevrices agency investigation.
As cold weather is setting in here in Connecticut, I shall start making cholent for this coming Shabbos. The main part of our home is 200+ years old and has working fireplaces used for heating and cooking. There is both a tripod where I hang a cast iron kettle that hangs above the coals or an oven built into the brick wall where I can place a covered casserole.
I use a pickled rolled roast as the main meat in my cholent if made in the covered casserole. I take it out and slice it when it is time to serve, ladeling the beans,barley, vegetables, potatoes and gravy alongside on the platter.
If I’m cooking in the kettle I use both short ribs and home-made link sausage the size of knockwurst. This is more of a stew and is ladeled out into rustic pottery bowls for each individual at the table.
We only make cholent from approximately Chanukah to TuB’shvat as after that I don’t always keep the fireplaces going. My family is spoiled and does not like the taste or consistency of Cholent made in a crockpot.
I also NEVER put kishke or potato kugel on the top of the cholent. There is enough crbs with potatoes, barley and beans.
T613T if you are in the USA, you are being cheated. You should report this to your state Department of consumer protection.
The USDA allows a variance of 3.3% into the next lower weight class, but that requires a weight of 1.92 ounces.
(a) The weight classes for U.S. Consumer Grades for Shell Eggs shall be as indicated
in Table I of this section and shall apply to all consumer grades.
Table I — U.S. Weight Classes for Consumer Grades for Shell Eggs
Size or weight class Minimum net weight per
dozen (ounces)
Minimum net weight 30
per dozen (pounds)
Minimum net weight for
individual eggs at rate
per dozen (ounces)
Jumbo ………………………..30
Extra large ………………….27
Large …………………………24
Medium ……………………..21
Small …………………………18
Peewee ………………………15
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(b) A lot average tolerance of 3.3 percent for individual eggs in the next lower weight
class is permitted as long as no individual case within the lot exceeds 5 percent.
Lightbrite
Once refrigerated eggs have to be kept refrigerated. Here in small town Connecticut locals sell eggs from stands by their small farms. They are not refrigerated and will keep about a week stored in the pantry. In fact our vet sells local eggs from a neighbor’s flock and they are just stacked on a counter in her reception area.
lightbrite………….
we’ve had the discussion about making change from the pushke (and noise) a couple of years ago. In our shul the Box is permanently attached to the wall at the entry of the minyan room and locked. 99% of donations are paper money. No noise, no issue. The shul secretary unlocks, empties the box and makes the bank deposit daily when her work day starts about 9
meno………
Back in the late 1970s I owned a kosher bakery. When baking you use eggs that are at room temperature for best results. Also when following baking recipes in the US, they are calibrated for Large size eggs, not Extra Large or Jumbo
My youngest is in a private college.
Goyim, yes but she grew up in a small New England town and is used to being a minority.
Assignments due Shabbos Night….not an issue, has never happened to her, those due to be submitted electronically are due Sunday by 6PM. College rule to encourage Catholics to go to mass Saturday night or Sunday morning.
2 Finals on the same day……college permits all students to reschedule finals if you have more than one the same day. BTW, it was the same when I went to University and Law School
Running home to make Shabbos. Except for her first semester when she had a 9AM class, she has been able to schedule NO Friday classes.
A visit to the University registrar when she enrolled ensured that all her professors receive lists of yuntif and that they are excused absences. The school automatically videotapes the classes, as they are also offered on-line. She then can easily catch the missed class and is given an opportunity to turn work in after yuntif with no penalty. Only downside in missing class and watching video is inability to ask professors questions during a lecture.
BTW>>>she isn’t rushing to our home, she has an apartment 5 minutes from school. Same thing I did when in school eons ago.
It’s Time for truth
“the most Important part about Eisenhower
When he was in the White House Americans felt safe.”
NO, we were scared to death of Atomic or Nuclear attack from the Russians. WE grew up with regular ‘Duck and Cover’ drills in grade school years.
My father actually had a bomb(fallout) shelter built and stocked below our back lawn. By the 1980s, my kids used it as a playhouse when visiting Oma and Zaidy (a mixed marriage).
Huju….
The Yeshiva high school was Ashkenaz, however, we attended Latin, math and science classes 3 evenings each week from 6-8:30 with instructors from Yale
Lightbrite……….
People don’t put II or Junior on their driver’s licenses, the employees at Motor Vehicles Dept (agency name in CT) do.
When getting a driver’s license you must present your certified birth certificate, US Passport or Alien Registration card. The ‘legal’ name on that document will be the named placed on the driver’s license.
When our youngest went to get her license at age 16, we discovered that the Probate Court had added the letter ‘A’ before her name when the issued a US birth certificate (she was born in China). Motor vehicles would only issue a license with that ‘legal’ name on it.
I went back to court and filed papers for a name change, we had to appear before the Judge of Probate (a neighbor and friend in this small town) and the request was granted and a new birth certificate issued. Then we had to go to Motor Vehicle and file for a new license with a name change, such as a woman might request upon marriage.
Court costs were approximately $200, motor vehicles did not charge for the change. This wasted approximately 6 hours of my time. As an attorney, my daughter did not have to pay any legal fees. A typical client with such an issue, which could be handled by a junior staff attorney and still require an appearance in court and paperwork by a paralegal would have had to pay approximately $350 to fix the problem.
Moral of the story, check all documents when issued to make sure they are correct or it will cost time and money to change them later.
Lightbrite…….
When you open our refrigerator the eggs are on the extreme left of the third shelf, stacked 3 trays high.
HOWEVER, they could be viewed as facing you either vertically or horizontally, as we purchase them in 30 packs from Shop-Rite which are square plastic containers. (back when we bought them in cardboard dozen boxes they went in the long way…vertical).
We remove the container form the refrigerator before using the eggs. If using to cook and eat we take from the rear of the container. If for baking we take from the front as they are not as cold and will come to room temperature faster.
Yehudayona,
You bring back memories of 8th grade and my LatinII class.
‘OMNIA Gallia in tres partes divisa est’ the opening lines of Caesar’s Gallic Wars.
All of Gaul is divided into three parts. I fear that Trump will cause real divisions in the USA.
Winnie……….
The initials were used for practical reasons, as well as in campaigns.
In my generation and those before me it was not unusual to have many monogrammed items…with your 3 initials.
In fact, my shirts are embroidered with my 3 initial monogram, on the right hand cuffs.
Yes, JFK was known as Jack. This is similar to boys named Yaakov being called Yankel. Since his maternal grandfather Fitzgerald was once mayor of Boston, the Fitzgerald middle name had great political value to JFK and RFK.
I often mentor foreign students in their legal writing and reading. I always explain to them that authors/editors choose their words carefully. Ink and paper cost money and extra words are not included. If the word is not necessary for clarity, it should be omitted.
My use of CTLawyer is to identify myself as an attorney in/from Connecticut. As laws vary greatly by jurisdiction it is important to identify where I practice and that the laws/customs/decisions I quote may apply here but not in other places.
Winnie…….
The slogan was used in early Senate campaigns in Texas. No need to differentiate a living Senate candidate from a long dead VP/President of the 1800s from Tennessee.
No, I don’t wear them, they are part of a collection of 20th century US political items I put together for a political science class in college some 45 years ago or so.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson were all people who used their full names in everyday life (many Gentiles honor the mother’s family by including the name as a middle name). These names took too much space in newspapers, on letterheads, advertising, etc. Ink and paper cost money, so Initials were used. Dwight David Eisenhower’s initials DDE were too close to the now banned pesticide DDT, especially for an Army general, so he used his child nickname IKE in politics.
Carter and Clinton used diminutives of their first names: Jimmy and Bill. Reagan couldn’t use initials, because RR is the abbreviation for RailRoad,
Geordie……………….
I long for the days when I’d fly in and out of Jan Smuts Airport. O.R. Tambo has no appeal to me.
Neville….
Unfortunately you are wrong in your assumptions.
I’m a family law attorney and dealing with non-Jews who have many juniors, IIs, IIIs, etc. I have to be up on this.
A junior is named for his father with exactly the same name. It is not enough that the first and family name be the same.
II and III are people named for the same person, not juniors.
So, if there is a John Doe and a grandchild is named for him, that grandchild is John Doe II. If II’s child is also named for original John Doe, the child is III, but instead if the child of II is named for II, the child will be a junior.
GW Bush does not carry his father’s second name…Herbert, thus he is not a junior.
Winnie…the LBJ tag came from his campaign strategists. I still own political lapel buttons that read: “All the way with LBJ”
Neville
GW Bush is NOT a Junior. The first President Bush is George Herbert Walker Bush. The Walker for his mother’s side of the family. GW is not named for the Walkers.
Joseph………….
Nixon was a lousy Jew Hating Senator and VP before he was a dishonest Jew Hating President. He had terrible judgment in picking his VP Spiro T Agnew of Maryland…thus giving us the only President of the US who had to resign also having a VP who had to resign.
His domestic policy was terrible, his foreign policy was often brilliant, but he was POTUS not Secretary of State and as such he was a loser
Yehudayona………
Generation gap time. When I was school age, the Interfold toilet tissue was the only type one found in the stalls. Somehow, generations of American students, and the public as a whole, managed just fine with it.
I mentioned Amazon for those who don’t see it in local stores. It is also available thru Staples and Office Depot.
Winnie……….
I’m no fan of Carter, I don’t trust evangelicals in general.
That said, Carter did not give away the Sinai, Begin did. Carter hosted and facilitated the Camp David meetings and accords, but he did not have to power to give away land that did not belong to the USDA or was not under its control.
Did he exert influence? Yes, but the decision in the ed was that of the Israeli and Egyptian governments and their respective leaders.
Health………….
LU can NOT be her own sibling. She stated that every one of her siblings got married. Not that all per parents children got married.
Lilmod Ulelamaid…………..
The first US President I remember was Dwight Eisenhower.
He was also one of the worst and most ineffective Presidents in my lifetime.
He was a war hero who was courted by both parties and sold out to the Republicans. He brought us that vile right wing VP Tricky Dick Nixon…the only US President to ever have to resign the office.
Eisenhower enriched the Military/Industrial complex at the expense of the ordinary citizens. He spent major periods of time playing golf and/or recuperating from heart attacks at his farm while the Dulles brothers led us to ruin.
He got us involved in French Indo-China (Viet Nam) allowed screwball Senator McCarthy to ruin the lives of countless American Jews (among others) with his blacklists and the kangaroo court HUAC hearings.
Nothing good came out of his administration.
The Presidency of Bill Clinton was the best I’ve lived through. I admit my bias having known both Clintons personally since their days at Yale Law School. There was great prosperity in the land. Minorities made major achievements socially and economically. There was general peace, our troops had little active engagement overseas. I liked his judicial appointments and other policies.
It was the last time our government operated for a year with a balanced budget.
Personally, I never lost so much money and had such lousy business experiences as in both Bush administrations. These Republicans were not good for business, as opposed to being good for their WASP elite friends and the Saudi Royal family. They used brother Jeb to steal the 2000 election and always hide the fact the brother Neil cost US taxpayers millions in the bailout of Siverado Savings and Loan. Laura was a drunk who committed vehicular homicide and was then first lady, so how can we complain about what Trump is bringing in as the next first ‘lady?’ I am embarrassed to be from the same hometown as GW Bush..both born in Grace New Haven Hospital during the post WWII baby boom.
We have always used ‘Interfold’ toilet tissue for Shabbos. This is the type of toilet tissue that fits in the rectangular dispenser in public stalls. It is readily available from Amazon or local Janitorial supply houses.
We also use this type of paper towels for Shabbos
Torah613Torah
I listen far more than I speak. Many threads are of interest to me, but I am not qualified to post a quality opinion.
My father A”H was a man who used as few words as possible to get his point across. I learned from a ‘pro.’
My favorite example was when we were placing our orders for dinner at a Catskills hotel around 1960. The waiter asked my father how he would like his steak.
My father replied: “Large”
As a family law attorney for some 35+ years I can say that the rise of divorce in the Jewish community has mirrored the Gentile community, but lagging by about 5 years.
I believe the OP meant to ask about the Hareidi community, not the Jewish Community as a whole. They have lagged the rest of the Jewish community by about 15 years.
The stigma of a divorce in the family no longer means inability for the children of siblings to make a shidduch, although it still takes effort and searching.
One reason that women, who previously would not have considered divorce are seeking it is that there is mandated reporting by health and other professional who suspect physical and other abuse in patients’ lives.
Once this is reported the social service system takes told, frum women are exposed to the mental health system. They are told that they are victims who must extricate themselves from horrible and possibly deadly situations.
Years ago, a frum doctor seeing a frum wife with a black eye or fracture might have called the husband in and read him the riot act, or notified the Rav to get involved. Today with Hipaa laws in place and mandated reporting, the doctor can’t make these calls, but may have to notify the local police precinct.
Thus, the secular system is interjected into the frum community and divorce rates rise.
Kapusta…
Thank you for your kind inquiry.
The best I can say is fair. She is currently recovering from her 11th surgery of 2016, done last Friday. It was not a complete success. It is only with complete emunah in Hashem that we manage to go on with our daily activities.
The CR serves for me as both a diversion and online support system. Mrs. CTL is a very private person and I cannot discuss in person her condition with friends and most relatives.
She is in our tefilos
Soporific is something that tends to induce drowsiness or sleep.
It could be a sleeping pill, but a particularly boring lecture or book can do the same.
huju…………
I often use the passive voice when I neither wish to make attribution or don’t have permission to do so. This is not necessarily weaseling or obfuscating.
I practice family law and often we have to leave the names and/or clues to the identity of minors or abuse victims out of what is written that it becomes habit.
huju………….
again you are attributing words to my post that are not written by me.
I never used the word ‘pretty,’ so to simply have written that my grandmother told me to find a pretty wife is a falsehood.
Grandmother’s admonition was to look at the girl’s mother for a view of what the girl would look like in the future and decide if it was acceptable as a mate.
Some women age more gracefully than others, if a ‘pretty’ 20 year old had a mother who presented herself as a washed out hag the warning signals would go off. OTOH if a plain 20 year old had a mother who presented herself in a well groomed and confident manner, the girl might be someone worthy of consideration as a lifetime mate.
Lilmod……………….
building and supporting institutions is quite different from directly supporting individuals who st and learn.
BTW…I’ve been in Asia many of times, there are fat Asians. The Chinese word for fat is WO. As their economy grows so have their wastelines.
South Koreans, under US auspices for the past 60+ years are substantially heavier than Cambodians, Laotians, Viet Namese, etc.
huju………..
If you read my post it says we were told. It does not say we were taught. I choose my words carefully (part of being a lawyer). In fact it was my grandmother who told my brothers and me this consideration.
I did not use it when choosing Mrs. CTL. Our mothers were friends who set us up. I can look at pictures of Mrs. CTL at 30, 40 50 and 60 and they are easilly confused with pictures of her mother at the same age…and all are pleasing to my eyes.
3L
3rd year law student
Follows
Freshman, Sophomore, Junior and Senior years of College in most cases.
Some law schools have switched to a 2 year curricula.
My children did two years plus summers, or 5 semesters and one summer
Lenny1970
Thanks….
she and we are in no hurry. We marry later than many in the CR as it is expected that our children complete college and grad school first. She has 3 semesters left in college and then law school (coming into the family firm).
Her next older sister graduated law school last December, took the Bar exam in February, married erev Pesach and she and new SIL work for me. She met her husband in law school, set up by a Jewish professor who noted their absences for Yuntif.
Youngest expects to seriously start looking when she is in law school, but if something interesting pops up sooner she’ll consider it. She did a year of seminary between graduating high school a year early and college. Expects a husband to have either gone to college while in Yeshiva or spent a year or two learning full time before college. She will not consider supporting a husband who learns full time…not our minhag. We are the baal baatim of the world who make the money to support and build the institutions for those who sit and learn full time.
Lilmod Ulelamaid
Nature v. Nuture is always an interesting discussion.
Having 2 adopted children plus a number of birth children, I can say that the adopted children are thin (size 1) and about 5’8″ tall They are ages 20 and 28.
Mrs. CTL and I are heavy and 5’5″.
The adopted and birth children were raised together eating the same foods, so it’s not nurture, it’s genes.
All our children exercise, as do we. Full gym setup in the studio over the garage and our own in ground pool for laps, etc.
Whether or noty it should be an issue is another story.
When looking for a spouse we were told, don’t look at the girl and how she looks now, look at her mother and see if this is what you want your wife to look like in 30 years…………
Well, this backfired on a young man who was set up with our youngest daughter last year. He confided in the person setting him up that he wasn’t interested because Mrs. CTL was heavier than he wanted his wife to be at that age.
The fool needs to take high school biology, he didn’t understand that our daughter is Chinese (adopted) and carries none of Mrs. CTL’s genes.
Needless too say he would not have found favor in our daughter’s or our eyes.
Veltz Mshugener…..
“all posters on the Coffee Room, a 3L at Columbia Law School.”
Really, you must miss most posts, especially those looking for a post high school seminary.
This retirement age attorney hasn’t been a 3L in about 40 years and went to a different Ivy, not Columbia.