Ex-CTLawyer

Geordie613

Yes I git to Adath Yeshurun. I don’t know if I met Yekke’s grandparents. I was there quite a bit in the late 70s. In fact I was engaged to a girl from Yeoville, her father was a retail jeweler…watchmaker by trade. But they were actually Litvaks arriving in Joburg via England in the 1930s. My friends who I always stayed with lived a good half hour walk from Yeoville and davened at the Kollel in those days, also a long walk. His wife was from CT and he was a native Saffer.

It is very strange, as the last single Ms. CTL is about to announce her engagement to a 20 something young man from South Africa. When we met him recently, a bit of Jewish geography elicited the fact that i had met his grandparents in April 1978 in Rosemont.

AviK…………….
you make no sense at all.

What anti-semitic left made which exams optional and for whom?

I’m politically left, I teach in law school, my students did not have optional exams, nor did nay others in the school. I am NOT anti-semitic nor are any of the other faculty I know.

Still have the youngest Ms. CTL in college. No exams were cancelled or made optional. Her professors are both left and right wing. Her college banned all paid staff from discussing politics with students except in Poltical Science courses. The only one of her professors I considered anti-semitic was an irreligious Jew teaching chemistry. The provost backed daughter up on excused time off for Yuntif.

AviK……………
I’ll happily be alive having made a $5000 donation to a hospital construction project that kept me from harm’s way.

This was a case of Pikuach Nefesh and approved by my Rav at the time.

How many running from the Tsar’s draft bribed their way across borders?
How many trying to run from the Nazi’s wish they could have bribed their way out?

How many were rescued by paying bribes?

I don’t appreciate your holier than thou attitude. You weren’t to be sent to face communist guns, swamps, jungles agent orange and drugs

Ms. CTL lives half her year in the south of France, the other half here in the USA. We discussed this on the phone today and she informed me that in her opinion (she does not expect Le Pen to win) living under Le Pen would be preferable to living under profiteering, dishonest, Trump and his family who are ripping off the US taxpayers

Interesting talk about leaving countries to avoid the draft.

Mrs. CTL’s zaidy fled the Pale of Settlement under cover of night to avoid conscription into the Tsar’s army for 25 years.

Older brother of CTL gained landed immigrant status in Cnada to avoid the draft during Viet Nam war in the 1960s

CTL paid a $5,000 donation to the hospital wing being built by the doctor on Selective Service Board #9 in New Haven, CT to get his 4F and avoid Viet Nam

CTL serves on the New Englan Regional Selective Service Appeals Board and if a US draft is re-instituted he will do his best to keep those who don’t want to go out.

That said, CTL’s father and uncles all volunteered for the US Armed Serviced during WWII and helped liberate what remained of European Jewry.

CTL’s Zaidy was drafted into the US Army during WWI, but was posted in Atlanta, never went overseas.

CTL has made a decision that he can do more economically for EY by being successful in the USA and funding those in EY who are not living economically viable lives, than moving the whole family and retiring in EY.

We have a home in EY and children and grandchildren have lived there while attending Yeshiva and Seminary in EY. We visit each year, but have no burning desire to live there until after Moshiach arrives and the political infighting ends.

My paternal Litvak Misnagid side says Abesther…..

Once at a Chabad led meeting I used the term and was accused of having some Hasdidic roots, when I finished laughing I told the accuser that it was the Hasidim that were copying a litvish term.

BTW>>>we also say Tayrah

@Joseph

No, it was about 10 years before that Governor assumed office

Joseph………………
I honestly don’t know, but Yekkes did business in the German Gentile world and certainly would have had to conform to their time habits.
Non-Hareidi Jews attended German Gymnasiums (e.g. Einstein) and would have always been seated in class before Herr Doktorr Professor entered.

My niece’s German Jewish family settled in St’ Louis about 130 years ago. WQhen she married my nephew the wedding was held in the Missouri Club with a brought in Kosher caterer. Her parents, grand parents and great grandparents had all been members along with the major German Gentile families such as Busch from Budweiser Breweries. The German community in St. Louis to this day is totally mixed Jewish and Gentile and functions in harmony.

Her family is full of judges and many politicians from both the Missouri side and Illinois side of the Mississippi River were invited. The Illinois Governor was late, but the affair was not delayed one minute for his arrival. The German-American merchants and politicians were all seated promptly before the stated time on the invitations.

As I’ve posted before, my German side arrived in NY in 1868, there was no one left to ask what was learned in Germany, the last known relation on that side left in 1880.

My Litvak side arrived at Castle Garden, NY in 1872, by 1890 all relatives had either arrived in NY or were living in Manchester, England. B”H no known relative was affected by the Shoah.

I’ve stayed away from this thread for years, but now will put in my observation.

From the Yekke side of my family….
Heimish is ‘real’ unpolished, not putting in airs or false sophistication. A taste of ‘real’ life where a momma raising multiple children without servants doesn’t worry if the kugel has a few well done crusty edges and doesn’t look like a picture in Gourmet magazine.
The Heimish bakery has things that taste good, not look good without taam.

Heimish people do and make, not have their servants do it for them and let dinner guests rave about the the hostess’ cooking.

When referring to the Rabbi of our synagogue, I say Rabbi….last name
When calling the house or synagogue office, I announce myself: This is Atty CTL, may I speak to the rabbi please.
When he is in the privacy of the CTL hot tub or sauna or swimming pool, I call him by his first name.
He’s more than 30 years younger than me.

@yekke2

Just had a chance to read your post about your mother’s family washing every piece of meat and fish before starting the cooking processes, thus no processed meat or minced product.

My mother’s side arrived in the USA from Germany in 1868 (Yekkes or short coat German Jews). They also had this tradition.

However, I remember both my Oma and mother mincing (grinding) their own hockfleisch (beef and/or veal) so that they could make burgers, meatballs or meat loaf for Pesach meals.
Also, mother (as well as us) had a separate Pesach kitchen, so wursts were prepared Chanuka time for Pesach use. The first time I ever had commercially made salami or frankfurters on Pesach was when I spent a yuntif at my paternal grandparents at the age of 12.

These traditions are not those of my paternal line or my wife’s family. However, I still make some wursts in advance of Pesach, and will smoke turkey, duck and salmon as well

I don’t, shul is 70/30 yes/no on Chol HaMoed Sukkos.
Since we have Pesach davening at the CTL compound, only 1 son in law and grandson put them on, with a bracha. Those in the CTL male line don’t.
I would think that the shul minyan would vary by who has guests each year, or the minhag of the current Rabbi. I never let the minhag of the shul rabbi decide for me, I’ve outlasted many of them.

Every family has different traditions.

My father always gave 50 cents for the Afikomen, then again my parents set $10 limits on birthday and Chanukah gifts, These things were just not that important to waste large amounts of money on.

The first time I attended a Seder at a friends house when I was about 12 (mom was in the hospital) I was shocked to see the kids demanding large gifts from their father to ransom the Afikomen. I don’t like it.
Our grandchildren get a book or small toy, that’s enough. And with all Pesach costs, it’s not about the money

Rebyidd23…………..
I responded to your Chometz Fixx comment not the title question.

Truth be told, I don’t buy loaves of bread in restaurants of any kind. I buy them in supermarkets or bakeries. Alas, it has been many years since our area had kosher delicatessens where you could also buy bread and rolls.

Joseph…………..
That’s Postville home of Agriprocessors
There is a Chabad community there

Apple Strudel
Pot Cheese

iacrisma…………

My maternal side is German-Jewish-American (arriving in NY 1868)
There is a big difference between Yekke and German
Not all German Jews are Yekkes (wearers of the short coats).
Most German-American Jews in Washington Heights (KAJ) are relative newcomers to America. My parents lived in NYC until 1950 and my mother said she never came across this phenomenon until moving to New Haven.

The German-Jewish Synagogue in New Haven (now in a suburb and not orthodox) was chartered by the State of Connecticut in 1840

Mango
Alfalfa

I have gone back to the post before Best Bubby’s repeat of my entry of March 13

iacrisma

“Ashkenazim tend to name after deceased relatives..”

The interesting thing I have found is that German-American Jews (after all Germany was Ashkenaz) do name for a male parent. Growing up in New Haven, there were quite a few German-American Jewish Juniors.

The other peculiarity in naming in New Haven was the common use of ‘Mary’ as the English name for Jewish females. This was spread among all national origins, not just German descent.

yehudayona………………

actually MANY Christians do name their children after the ‘founder’ of their religion:

Commonly given first names:

Christian

Christine

Christopher

and many derivatives such as Chris…or spelled with a K

Joseph…

In New Haven

Congregation Bikur Cholim B’nai Abraham was formed in 1884 by ‘ordinary’ Orthodox Jews primarily from the Pale in the Russian Empire.

Sheveth Achim Anshei Lubavitch was formed in 1898 by Lubavitch Chasidim from the village of Korinetz.

Both synagogues were on Factory Street.

Sheveth Achim followed the Lubavitch calendar and nusach. By WWII the descendants of the original members were European Traditional but not Hasidim anymore.

Factory Street was slated for demolition and urban redevelopment. Neither synagogue was vibrant enough to move and build on its own, so in 1950 they merged into Bikur Cholim Sheveth Achim Synagogue and bought an existing church in the western end of New Haven. They adopted the Lubavitch nusach, had separate seating, but no mechitzah.

In the mid 1980s, a new group of frum Jews had moved into the neighborhood and the shul moved to the right, installing a mechitzah. I became a member after this had occurred.

In the mid 1990s the building was far too big and the neighborhood non longer Jewish. It was sold and they bought another church even further west in New Haven. There was a parsonage building on the lot which was leased to a Chabad shaliach. The synagogue continued to age and membership dwindle. I no longer lived in New Haven. Today, the building has essentially been taken over by Chabad and the congregation has come full circle.

In CT, it is not unusual for failing orthodox synagogues to be taken over by Chabad, who gain a building and membership at no cost. It has happened in Woodmont (which had been a summer shul for 85 years) and in Fairfield (the Hungarian shul). The young Chabad couples don’t have the 100K salary requirements of most suburban orthodox rabbis.

double daled………………

That’s what my zaidy bought me for my Bar Mitzvah and as I’ve bought new and bigger Tefillin over the years I follow that tradition. I never noticed what my father wore, and my brother’s tefillin were purchased by my mother’s father and are single.

Uni

Nectarine

raspberries

almonds

lesschumras………..

you read too much into things that are not written there.

I spoke about one player from my hometown, whose parents and grandparents I know. I pointed out that he is not one of the ‘most’ players of mixed parentage as described by the OP.

I did not attempt to disprove anything. I have no personal knowledge of any of the other players