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@iacisrmma
As long as the publicly owned colleges and universities can’t accommodate all qualified students seeking admission, I have no problem with this credit being applied to private universities.As an example, youngest CTL daughter did a BSRN before planning to go to Law School. In the State of CT there are only 4 public universities that offer the degree and they admit only 40 students each per year. There are 5 private universities in CT that also offer the degree, admitting about 400 students per year. It is in the public interest to have Registered Nurses to meet health needs, so I have no problem with the tax credit.
BTW, the CTL family does not avail themselves of this credit, so I am not biased in my opinion.@Joseph…………
get your history straight
The incidents you cite occurred in the Town off Kent off Campus) on May 1 and 2. The National Guard slaughtered 4 and wounded nine on campus on June 4.
2 of those slaughtered by the National Guard were not protesters, but just students crossing the campus.
The other 2 did not throw beer bottles at police cars or break down storefronts (there were no stores on campus where they were murdered. they were not throwing rocks at firemen or policemen extinguishing a fire.
Yes, Jeffrey Miller threw something, he tossed back a tear gas canister in the direction from which it originated.
Not all protesters are rioters.I’ve been to the site of the confrontation withing days of the killing, I’ve met and spoken with some of the protesters when this event was fresh in their minds.
Our government did lots of terrible things using the National Guard during the 1950s, 60s and 70s dating to the Arkansas National Guard denying Black students entry to Central High School in Little Rock(50s) Governor Wallace in Georgia using the National Guard to keep Black students out of the University of Alabama (60s) and Governor Rhodes having the National Guard murder students at Kent State (70s).
My reply to Joseph’s post regarding the murder of students at Kent State was not published..blocked by the moderators.
I take personal offense at the calling of the students ‘bums’ who ‘deserved to be shot’
On Independence Day we celebrate our country and the freedom and rights afforded us.The First Amendment to the US Constitution (the one that proclaims freedom of religion) also proclaims our Rights to Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly, something that was taking place on public land. Governor Rhodes acting through the Ohio National Guard sought to deny the protesters those rights.
Why am I so personally upset? Jeffrey Miller, of New York, shot dead by the Ohio National Guard, while exercising those First Amendment Rights was my cousin.
He is remembered and mourned to this day.I used to, but way back in 1983 the Treasury Department issued regulations that all new bond issues had to be Registered. No more Bearer Bonds with Coupons to clip and deposit for interest payments.. Since bonds typically had a life not exceeding 30 years, I clipped my last coupons back in 2012.
shuold i work at a bookstore
Not unless you learn to spell, fiction is arranged alphabetically by author’s last name
@Ubibiquitin
Public Schools HAVE to accommodate ALL residents who wish to enroll. During the baby boom and again during the white flight to the suburbs in the late 1960s many public schools went on double sessions. This made much better use of the buildings than having them sit empty from 2:30 PM on.
As for having to supply kosher food to students..NO it is not a requirement. No student is forced to eat school lunch in public school, nor is forbidden to bring lunch from home (subject to restrictions such as peanut butter). The largest city in , Bridgeport, serves free lunch to all students. They do not serve any pork products, not because of Jewish students, but a growing Muslim immigrant population.
mammele……………..
giving a free college education by a state is NOT the same thing as Tax Credits which the poster wrote.My parents were born in NYC back in 1920. They both went to public college (CCNY and Hunter) for the cost of a subway ride. Even the textbooks were free….all paid for by the taxpayers of NYC. The free City University education disappeared in the 1970s when NY State had to bail out a failing NYC. The Financial Review Control Board was instituted and CUNY forced to charge tuition at SUNY rates.
@NevilleChaimBerlin
” frum yidden shouldn’t advocate for all of us having to spend thousands more per year just to satisfy a multiple century old document written by goyim (the constitution).”On this Independence Day your comment is particularly offensive, and smacks of bigotry.
If you don’t choose to uphold the Constitution, the door is open and you are free to leave the USA, this is not Czarist Russia and you don’t need to bribe your way across the border in the dead of night.Any individual is free NOT to avail themselves of publicly supplied institutions, but not free to avoid the cost of maintaining them.
I don’t use any of the public swimming pools in my town, I’m not entitled to a tax break for using my own. I do use the public libraries and parks. The public health nurse at the town senior center has been very helpful with my MIL.Some states have specific school taxes. When I owned a cabin in the Catskills, I got a property tax bill from the town and a separate school tax bill from the county. All of the cabins in the development were strictly for summer use. No one lived there in the winter no water, heat, paved/plowed roads…but we paid school tax. Here in CT, the cost of your town school system is included in your town property tax bill. Society as a whole depends on a well educated populace and we have a duty to fund the schools.
I don’t know your age and whether you ever attended a public school. I went to day school, but in my high school years, I attended public high school from 7 AM until noon and Yeshiva High School from 12:30PM until 6 PM. There were state required courses that I got in Public High School not offered in the Yeshiva High School. This included 4 hours of Physical Education per week including swimming instruction, higher levels of math and science, music and art, shop (woodworking, plumbing, electrical) which has been invaluable as a homeowner,
You as a citizen have a vote in determining education expenditures, You are not prohibited from getting involved in politics and having a say in setting tax rates and policies. If you choose to isolate yourself from the greater community to live in, then you are bound by the rules set by the majority without a chance to affect change,iacisrmma… I am not aware of any tax credit for attending university. Are you asking about tax advantages for repayment of student loans for a college education?
If this is the case, until such time that the public colleges and universities have enough slots to accommodate all students seeking higher education, I believe the tax relief should e available to all students/families.
Those of us who pay lots of tax and tuition don’t necessarily believe:
1. in school vouchers
2. That you should get even more social service dollars because you choose to pay tuition for your childrenThis is not a theocracy. I personally don’t believe that tax dollars should subsidize private education.
I am an elected town official. I have to wrestle with the budget to make sure PUBLIC institutions run smoothly with the available tax dollars. I am not in favor of those tax dollars being cut so you can collect more freebies from the government.
If you choose to live chutz l’aretz and want government providing, healthcare, housing assistance, utility subsidies, food purchasing assistance (BTW…Food Stamps is NOT the current program, it is called SNAP) then move to a Socialist country such as Sweden.
I WORK very hard for my money and I resent the constant hands out attitude expressed by those who make a choice to live on the dole instead of working full time, providing for your family and learning after work hours.
The social support network is supposed to be for temporary setbacks, not permanent subsidies for your lifestyle. Your mother only had to carry you for nine , the American taxpayers should not be forced to carry you for years.
BTW>>>>I am a Democrat and Social Liberal, BUT I am a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE.
DY……..it keeps the Redcoats from quartering soldiers in Meno’s home
Thanks, Meno
Decades ago, we decided that we would much rather have a large home and facilities to be able to host the entire extended family for Pesach, summer holidays, chasunahs, etc. than new cars every couple of years, expensive trips, lawn care and snow removal and work around the house done by paid professionals.
My late father taught me how to do carpentry, plumbing and electrical. Mrs. CTL’s grandfather was a painter who taught her to wield a brush.
Nothing gives greater pleasure than to host/house the entire family for Pesach. Last year we married off a daughter in our gardens, and our final daughter will wed here I”H this August
When I was growing up in New Haven, there was a grocery called the Food Co-op. It survived for about 3 decades. It was a co-operative (like some apartment buildings) owned by the shareholders. It required all members to work x hours per month. It was not open to non-members. Food was sold at cost plus 3 percent which was enough to cover utilities, taxes, loan payments for the cost of fixtures, etc.
It was not aimed to the Jewish community, but the residents of the west side of the city. It carried mostly packaged items.
It eventually closed when the building was sold for development.We live in a small New England town. There are enough Jews for a frum/orthodox shul and a Chabad presence on the far side of town.
10 AM on the 4th there is a live reading of the Declaration of Independence at Town Hall. We’ll attend with many of the town’s residents Jew and Gentile alike.
We don’t shop on July 4th. I grew up in the retail business and we believed it is one of those family holidays when stores should be closed and employees off to enjoy the day with their families.About 20 relatives are here at the compound from Brooklyn and NJ. It was a great Shabbos and the 4th will be full of planned sports and activities along with swimming in our pool, BBQ for lunch and supper. My eldest grandson will be delivering Divrei Torah at the meals. Our American flag will be proudly displayed on the flagpole on our front lawn.
It is the first time since last summer that we have hosted some of these relatives and we look forward to it most years.
After the 4th we get into high gear for our last single daughter’s wedding, which I”H will occur at our home right after the three weeks. So, with all the strong young men here, this morning after minyan and breakfast, we emptied three guest rooms and painted them. After supper we’ll put everything back. Mrs. CTL has made a long list of things to accomplish and I have no problem putting our relative/guests to work.In the 1980s people started removing wall to wall carpet that had become the rage in the 1950s to 1970s and restoring hardwood floors. This made the house seem colder in winter. SO, area rugs became popular again.
We currently use about 6 “Oriental” rugs in our home that had belonged to my grandparents (all of these were purchased before WWI and had spent decades rolled up in my parents’ cedar closet).Many of our friends have seen our antique family rugs and expressed regret that their family heirlooms had been disposed of while out of style, The only friends of ours who have such pieces were those whose parents/grandparents, etc. were renters, not homeowners. They tended to uses rugs, as installing wall to wall carpet merely improved the landlord’s premises and could not be taken with you when moving.
Red…this was confirmed with the chief mechanic at Jaguar. Having driven Jags for more than 45 years I can tell you that they are different from typical US/Japanese/German cars.
I have copies of the Jaguar service bulletins that say if you add more than 2 quarts standard oil to the synthetic you must flush the system and change the filters, also the bulletin that says you can run synthetic blend oil.
Back in 2004 that Jag was about $50K. It’s still running strong, driven by my youngest daughter.
I’ll continue to follow Jaguar’s service advice.
Retirement is around the corner and the next Jag I buy may be my last new car purchase…I’ll continue to follow their advice. We’ve been keeping the cars an average of 20 years, with the exception of Mrs. CTL’s original 1971 V12 E Type Convertible which we still drive each summer, 46 years of trouble free use.If you use synthetic oil make sure to carry a spare quart or two in your trunk.
In 2004 I flew to Nashville to drive back a car I bought for my then college age daughter. The dealer sent it out for an oil change to one of the national chains and they put in full synthetic oil. Unfortunately they put in 5 quarts, not the 7.5 required for this model.
Driving back on the Blue Ridge parkway in a small Virginia town the oil light went on. The only gas/convenience store did not stock synthetic oil. I had to put in 4 quarts of regular 5W30 brand name oil. When I hit the first medium size city with a dealer for that car, I stopped for service. Because I had mixed regular oil and fully synthetic I had to have the entire oil system flushed and a new filter. It was not cheap.I had the car filled with a synthetic blend per the service manager’s recommendations. We run all of out vehicles on the blend with no performance issues. I know if I get stuck needing oil late at night or in the middle of nowhere I can mix regular oil withouy causing damage or having to flush the system.
Why should the fact the programs are government sponsored and not private make a difference.
Lying is lying.
Many forms have notices of the penalties for false statements printed on the form.There is no single word for this category of child in the English language.
In court papers, we family law attorneys use the term: ADULT OFFSPRING
Dead men give no hasgachos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But their widows or children have been known to sell their certification stickers long after the man’s death.For years after his death the widow and children of a certain rabbi peddled his stickers for candy products.
I was an owner of a kosher deli/restaurant in the late 1970s that sold the product in retail packaging. The widow called a month before Pesach offering to sell me the stickers to affix to my current stock for the bargain price of $1 per sticker.
I reported it to our supervising rabbi and he told me he was aware of her retirement funding scheme. I removed the product from sale and never carried it again.Edited
Joseph……………..
I highly doubt that most Jews you know are in shul seven days per week. Maybe most adult Jewish males you know are in shul seven days per week. Most children and women are NOT in shul every day.I may attend minyan every day, unlike many it is NOT always in shul. There are enough adult males here at the CTL compound for Pesach and summer vacations that we often daven here (we have our own sifrei torah). At my age it is not unusual to be a shiva minyan at least once per week.
My wife and daughters only attended shul on Shabbos and Yuntif.Here in the Diocese of Bridgeport, tuition drops by $500 each additional child in the family attending Catholic school. Base tuition from K-8 is $7150. High school is $18.000 so there is a major drop off in enrollment and many attend public high school.
Lay teachers in our local diocese parochial schools are paid an average of $50,000 with 10 years experience plus health insurance in the Diocese plan. Unlike Yeshivos/day schools they do not get ‘free’ tuition for their children/grandchildren, they get between $500-1000 extra scholarship per child per year.
Joseph….
Ushers and deacons tally the collections each Sunday after each mass. These days, most congregants don’t put cash in the envelops, they put checks, for tax purposes, and are easily identified. The parishes send parishioners a set of envelopes for each month labeled with the type of collection. They are discretely numbered (like response cards for a simcha) and easy to track. If a family is giving less than they used to give, it might bring a call.visit from the parish priest. Not to berate them for less money, but to inquire about their well being and if they might need help. One of our secretaries at the law office told me she and her husband received such a visit about two years ago when they cut back on weekly contributions. They explained to the priest that they now had 2 children in college and that was taking their discretionary funds. The priest suggested several Catholic scholarships the kids could apply for to ease the burden.@Joseph
The major difference in Catholic and Jewish fundraising is: When most Jews are in shul it is Shabbos or Yuntif and they don’t/can’t handle cash.
Catholics are in church on Sundays and carrying money. The ushers pass the collection baskets and parish members are expected to put in an envelope with a contribution for each family member. There is an envelope for the parish (local church), one for the school, another for overseas missions as well as special collections ordered by the bishop of the diocese. My Catholic friends tell me that they are expected to put in about $10 per family member every week.
ALL MEMBERS of the parish are expected to support the schools on a weekly basis. Among Jews, synagogues would not be making weekly collections for outside organizations (yeshivos, camps, etc.) they have enough trouble raising money to keep the shul going.
The local Orthodox shuls charge about $500 year dues per family including tickets for the holidays. The local Conservative synagogue charges about $1800.
Many people OOT belong to Orthodox shuls because of family history and inexpensive dues/cemetery privileges, NOT because these people are frum.@Daas Yochid
The days of Catholic Schools in America being substantially staffed by nuns ended in the 1970s. Today, most Parochial schools have lay person faculties.
Our Town has 2 Catholic K-8 schools and a High School. There is not a single nun on the staff in any of them (I checked the faculty directory on their websites).@Das Yochid continued
Catholic elementary, middle and high schools are NOT independent entities as Yeshivos are. They may be attached to a particular parish, but are owned and operated by the Diocese.
As such there are collections for the schools in churches throughout the diocese and the funds allocated from a central office (this is on top of tuition collected by the school).
There are 2 dioceses in CT. This coming school year they will have closed another 20+ schools due to low enrollment and combined them. The nearby town of Monroe, CT is losing its only Catholic school as enrollment had fallen to 91 students from a high of 400, it and the 2 remaining schools in the adjoining town of Shelton, CT will combine in one school with a combined enrollment of approx 350. In the early 1970s there were more than 1500 students in Shelton parochial elementary schools.
Being run by a diocese yields economies of scale not enjoyed by yeshivos. There are systems in place to share purchasing, buying in larger quantities cost less. A central office supplies IT support, bookkeeping and curriculum functions.
The individual schools are usually in buildings on local church grounds. The parish takes care of landscaping, snowplowing, etc.@Joseph
Catholic schools do not turn away students from families in the parish based on ability to pay. They do massive fundraising to meet scholarship needs and operational costs.
Our small town catholic schools have about 35% of the student body receiving reduced tuition (I have friends on the BOD), while large cities of low income/immigrant student bodies (such as Bridgeport) may have 80+ percent of students paying less than full tuition).Our local Catholic High School has a base tuition of $18,000 per year. Very few students pay 100% of tuition. The high schools have a way to earn extra tuition dollars that is not feasible for yeshivos, They may bring in foreign exchange students under E-1 student visas (you may have seen or read advertisements looking for American Host families). This enrollment may be up to 10% the student body. These foreign students are billed FULL tuition PLUS and additional $10,000 per academic year, plus all expenses: lunch, uniforms, books, lab fees, transportation. It is a cash cow for the schools. (It is also used by MANY non religious private high schools to keep afloat).
These foreign students (the largest group is from China_) are by and large non-Catholics, but must take religion classes and attend Mass, etc. in school, even as known non believers. the schools do not try to convert them, they just want the cash.Twisted…
No apology needed..
I’m the baby of the family and the only one not born in NYC. From 1974-87 I kept an office in Manhattan and was there 2-3 days per week. In the past 30 years I don’t think I’ve been in Manhattan 50 times. I do have a family foundation dinner there in August I must attend. That will be my first visit in a year.
I make an annual trip to Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn and Mt. Hebron in Queens. What little family I have left in the city are more than happy to come spend time here in CT with us. The pool is full and inviting, we had 10 relatives this past Shabbos from Brooklyn who stayed until this morning. 3 of the kids stayed on to play with my grandchildren for a couple of weeks. No reason that 2nd, 3rd and 4th cousins shouldn’t get to know and enjoy each other here at Camp CTL. Swimming, tennis, basketball, badminton, biking, great kosher food. No sharing a bunk, shower and toilet with 12 strangers…what could be bad? Wednesday, I hope to take them out fishing on my boat in the Long Island Sound.
When my parents A”H were kids in the late 1920s they were sent by their parents to a combination guest house and sleep-away camp in western NJ (which is where they met). Last year, the daughter of a 3rd cousin on Mrs. CTL’s side married the son of a 2nd cousin on my side. They had met here one summer when they were 12 years old. When the time came to enter shidduchim, both mothers reminded the children about the long ago summer friendship and got us to invite them and several other cousins for a Shabbos. Their friendship rekindled and marriage followed. One lived in Flatbush, the other in Washington Heights. Their paths would have never passed in NYC. OOT, frum is frum and eligible…no one cares if one is Breuers and the other from Chaim Berlin.There is an old adage: ‘Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.’
In the 1980s we pulled our 3 oldest kids out of a local day school because the quality of the rebbeim was so poor. Each one was married to a daughter of the headmaster and guaranteed employment for his life. After the headmaster passed away and his youngest son took over, the brothers-in-law were pushed out and competent staff hires. We had no problem sending 5 grandchildren there.
Positions should not be for life. Parents must demand quality educators for their tuition dollars.AviK
The traditional boundaries have blurred with the advent of cable TV and the availability of Red Sox games on about 23 of the 27 cable franchises in the state.
In the early 1960s, my father had 15 children’s clothing stores throughout CT. In the Hartford, West Hartford and Bloomfield stores they stocked Yankee Baseball caps and zip up poplin jackets, in East Hartford and Manchester they stocked the items with the Red Sox logo. His stores in New Haven county only carried the Yankee items and his two branches in Springfield, Mass carried Red Sox.
There is ONE major Exception city in CT. New Britain (west of Hartford) was heavily Red Sox territory. It was a predominantly Polish-American city and they were Loyal supporters of Carl Yazstremski who starred for the Red Sox from 1961-1983.What any of this has to do with Jewish Pilgrims, I don’t know, but many Jews are proud New Englanders
Twisted….
no apology necessary. My parents and older siblings left NYC for Nerw Haven in 1952 and I was born there. They did not live in rural CT. Mid 1950s New Haven had more than 20 shuls, 12 kosher butchers, 12 kosher bakeries, shotchim, mohelim, sofrim, yeshivos, etc and more than 30,000 Jews (1/4 of the population.My next older sister married a boy from New Haven, whose mother and grandmother had been born in the farming community of Colchester. The orthodox community lasted about 75 years.
AviK….
there is a dividing line in CT called the CT River. West of the River are NY baseball fans, east of the river are Boston fans. This goes back to the days of watching ball games on TV using a rooftop antenna. You could not receive the other games in the wrong half of the state. at
I live in Fairfield County, where many residents commute daily to jobs in NY. I can be at Yankee Stadium in 75 minutes by car, Fenway Park is more than a 3 hour trip.Traditionally, people sought government employment for job stability and benefits and traded that for a pay scale about 15% less than private business.
In the past 10 years, government employees have found that contracts have been renegotiated resulting in givebacks, unpaid furlough days to help balance budgets and large-scale layoffs.
New employees are often hired with different benefits and pension schemes than long term employees,
Government work still pays less than the private sector with the major exception of education. A public school teacher will earn far more and have much greater benefits that a teacher in a private school or Yeshiva.
In our community a teacher holding a Master’s Degree and 18 years of service (top of the contract scale) has a base pay of $92,000 per 186 workday year. This is not even close to the top pay rates here in Fairfield County.At the other extreme, town janitors start at $11.35 per hour while the local McDonald’s pays 18 year old part time beginning workers $13.25 and help spay for college after 9 months employment.
I am painfully aware of local pay rates and benefits, as I’m a member of our Town Council and we have finally passed out budget which starts the fiscal year beginning July 1. New hires in management no longer are part of the Town Pension plan, instead they are forced into a defined benefit plan that is portable like a 401K. Unions lost their previous medical plans and are forced into the state employees plan which costs the employee more out of pocket and has less coverage. Except for classroom teachers and police, vacancies are not being filled…we still don’t know what funding form the State will be for the coming year, as they have not passed a budget in Hartford. We do not have municipal fire service, but volunteer fire companies.
Obvious that you don’t have SubZero refrigerators
Our combination units (fridge/freezer) in our 3 kitchens would cost in excess of $36,000 certainly not worth it, I just removed the bulbsThen we’d only celebrate Jewish calendar birthday
My almost 29 year old started up about half birthdays when she was seven. I quickly reminded her that her birthday was June 25 and her half birthday would be December 25…we don’t celebrate anything about that date.
Avi K
I do my best not to use ‘weasel words’ and other non-concrete legalese. I was an early proponent of the move for all legal documents to be written in simple English, that is easy to understand by most Americans. This is especially important in my practice of family law.Being too vague is grounds for a law/regulation to be found unconstitutional.
Mr. Berra was known for his butchering of the English language. He was a fine person with a great heart. As a child I enjoyed watching him play for the Yankees.
Agutyar….
My late mother A”H, had the BEST advice for being a good mother in law:
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND YOUR REFRIGERATOR OPEN.When she died 2 years ago she had lived to see all of her children reach at least 40 years of marriage. Her daughters and sons in law adored her, she never interfered or offered an unasked for opinion. She was always there when she was needed, but never intrusive in our lives.
Meno
I’m all in favor to another 6 shots of whisky in a quart bottle.AviK……….
Lawyers know that it is important to be precise in speech and written words.
If I were alone in a room and speaking to someone on my phone, I might say that there is nobody else in the room with me. I would not say nobody is there(here), because I am somebody.RebYidd23
My grandchildren’s day school has Almond and Rice milk for the lactose intolerant and a dairy free choice every day (it may be the Soy Butter sandwich, or a pasta with tomato sauce and vegetables).The public schools in our area communities are all peanut free
The day schools do NOT allow any students to bring food (including snacks) into the buildings so it was easy to institute a peanut free rule.Both public schools and day schools have soybutter and jelly sandwiches as lunch choices for those not wanting the hot meal.
ZD…
I am aware of migration patterns
Many could not afford the passage all the way to America
Many could not get visas for the US
Many who lived in the eastern fringes of the Austro-Hungarian Empire headed for the capital, ViennaMy eldest SIL is a child of a father born in Vienna to parents who migrated their from southern Poland which was ruled by the Habsburgs/ The parents had been refused an American visa. SIL’s mother was born in Warsaw, but was lucky enough to get a visa for the US in 1923 before the immigration shutdown of 1924.
Warsaw had a higher percentage of observant Jews than Vienna, which had many adherents of the German Reform movement.
BUT, in the 1930s when the Germans moved in all Jews were considered the sameAvi………….
DIRECT COPY AND PASTE OF YOUR WORDS:
“Until Torah uMasora was established after WW2 there were no day schools …”What about ‘NO’ means a few?
NO means NONE, it would be far more acceptable for you to simply admit that information has been provided to disprove your claim than to try to change the meaning of the word.BTW….there were many “frum” Jews who attended government schools in major cities such as Vilna or a Gymnasium in Germany. Where admitted, some also attended University..examples include the late Lubavitcher Rebbe and Rav J.B Soleveitchik.
Every sthetl didn’t have a yeshiva, often the average youngster have a couple of years at a cheder and then worked on the family farm or in their trade. Hundreds of thousands were so poor they needed every source of income and only the brightest were sent off to yeshiva for an education. If life was so great in the alte heim, many of million Eastern European frum Yidden would not have sacrificed so much to reach the Goldene medinaH (USA).@lesschumras
How do frum kids go to shul parks, relatives etc. on Shabbos and YT?
I assume you mean because of lack of sidewalks
The are taught to be very careful and usually accompanied by a responsible adult or older sibling.
We have only 1 ortho shul in town and the police commission knows the service schedule for Shabbos and YT. They tend to send officers out on the walking routes who will assist in crossing major intersections, etc. Local drivers seeing walkers in Shabbos finery will automatically slow down and give right of way and let them cross streets. So few people walk in the suburbs (not talking about those dresses for running/exercise) that drivers take notice and are careful.The town is very proactive to serving he needs of all residents. This is still small town America, the town has approx. 35,000 residents and 28 houses of worship that I know of. Every one’s beliefs and practices are respected.Avi K
No on said it was easy, it does however continue to disprove your statement that there were no day schools in he US prior to WWII and that they did not serve girls
Members of my extended family have attended both day schools I mentioned in CT and Mass.BTW, in my father’s generation (born 1920) day schools, elementary Yeshivos were not considered so important, the kids went to public schools and learned Torah from 2:30 on and Sundays with private tutors. In my father’s case he learned/was taught by his paternal grandfather who was educated at Brisk in what is now Belarus. My great great grandfather had a storefront school on 15th Ave Boro Park from 1925 until his death in 1938. Most of the students attended public school in the morning. They went on to a year or 2 of full time Yeshiva after high school then college and professions or business. They became successful enough to help found the modern day schools of the post WWII era
Avi……………
again, while I mentioned New Haven, you can’t ignore the Maimonides School, founded by The Rav (J.B. Soliveitchik) way back in 1937…still serving Jewish boys and girls 80 years later/Joseph,
Many would argue that a large part of the Torah world also stands on the shoulders of Rav J.B. Soliveitchik. YU was not always as ‘liberal’ as it is now.lesschumras…………………….
In my town there are 5 public elementary schools, 2 middle schools and 1 high school
Almost 98% of students receive bus transportation (as does virtually every student in private schools in town).
We live on the same street as an elementary school, 3/10th of a mile away. Every student on our street except for those living in the same block as the school gets bus service.WHY????? SAFETY…here in small town CT outside of the immediate town center there are no sidewalks and it is unsafe to walk. Public school rules do not permit students to ride their bikes to school for the same reason. Our taxpayers would rather pay more in taxes than endanger walking children
Yes, more than once
BUT, as a family law attorney, it would be expected, as one partner deciding or revealing after marriage that they did not want children often leads to divorce.