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Yaasher Koach to trustunHashem:
I think everyone should go back to Bitachon 101 in Shaarie Habitochon.
L’maysa, I have two questions, please answer logically or with references if you can.
.#1, what percentage of the population must be vaccinated for herd immunity to work?
#2 how can a healthy child, vaccinated or not make anyone sick? A person is only contagious when ill. I hope everyone k who has cold or others symptoms stays home & away from others.
The hysteria is unbelievable. I would like it explained, please.2scents,& vr67 We’re talking about apples, and you’re talking about oranges.
That’s called avoiding the subject.
We’re bringing references, or will supply them if you’re willing.
You’re just ‘flying all over the place’ apparently you have nothing intelligent to say.
You’re calling us emotional-have you reread YOUR posts?
P.S. Yes I care more about my kids, don’t you?
That is why you choose to vaccinate & I choose not to.
If vaccines work, you have nothing to fear,
if they don’t, your child is no different than mine.Look around and see whose kids are healthier.
It is so apparent that ‘kul haposel bemumo posel”. If you read the posts, which ones sound emotional & irrational?
I cited and quote the medical journals, where are your references?
Here is another point of view written in the British Medical Journal. You can look it up for the references.
Measles: neither gone nor forgotten
Cite this as: BMJ 2018;362:k3976
Wild vs Artificial Exposure to Measles Are Not Equal
There is a fact rarely considered by public health officials: vaccination is not an intervention that eliminates disease exposure for individuals. Vaccination replaces wild exposure with artificial exposure, and they are not equal. We are many decades into mass vaccination campaigns, and it is alarming that instead of the medical and scientific community stepping back to examine the overall impact on public and individual health to see if current strategies should be reevaluated, the focus is on those who question or refuse vaccination.
Experts have acknowledged that the current measles vaccine cannot eradicate measles because of primary and secondary failure.[1] Studies have found that the concentration and duration of maternal antibody protection for infants with vaccinated mothers is lower and shorter than protection provided by non-vaccinated mothers [2] , and it has been found that a third dose of MMR cannot boost protection for any length of time [3] , leaving most adults unprotected. We have entered a vaccine-era of vulnerable infants and vulnerable older adults—populations that were protected when measles circulated naturally. It’s a messy conundrum, and it cannot be laid at the feet of those who opt out of vaccination. For the vast majority of healthy children who can easily handle a case of measles in childhood, vaccination provides no personal benefit and exposes them only to vaccine injury risk and vulnerability to measles in adulthood.
Since industry does not make a single measles vaccine available, that leaves just the controversial MMR that appears to not have had any clinical trials. MMR contains fragmented fetal DNA in the rubella portion, which some find morally objectionable and others medically problematic because of the potential for autoimmunity and insertional mutagenesis [4] . As well, the vaccine is highly contaminated with glyphosate from the gelatin [5] , and there are no studies showing injecting glyphosate to be safe or how it may alter the immune response to the other ingredients. Add that Merck has been accused of falsifying the efficacy of the mumps portion of their vaccine [6] and, Houston, we have a problem.
100% vaccination uptake would not alter the dilemma of vaccine failure or risk. The WHO chose a goal of global eradication before they had a safe tool able to achieve it. Rather than pushing for higher uptake, time and money would be far better spent on implementing rapid diagnosis and notification programs using new technologies to utilize good old-fashioned detection & isolation, researching best and safest measles treatments, and building the basics of healthy immunity in poor communities: clean water, proper sanitation, and adequate nutrition.Measles, for those of us old enough to remember, was a nuisance, but not life threatening.
Those of us who do not vaccinate (we’re not ANTI-VAX- we respect your right to vaccinate- just don’t force me to) don’t mind if our kids get the measles in fact wild measles is protective:
Children who are permitted to contract measles naturally are significantly protected against various cancers later in life. In fact, the wild measles virus has oncolytic (anti-cancer) properties.
Journal of Current Topics in Microbiology and Immunology 2009; 330: 213–241Contracting measles in childhood reduces the risk of developing lymphatic cancer in adulthood.
Leukemia Research, 2206;30(8):917-22
Infection with measles during childhood is cuts the risk OF developing Hodgkin’s disease in half.
British Journal of Cancer 2000; 82(5): 1117-21
Adults are significantly protected against non-breast cancers: genital, prostate, gastrointestinal, skin, lung, ear-nose-throat, and others, if they contracted measles earlier in life.
Medical Hypotheses 1998;51(4):315-20
Lymph cancer is significantly more likely in adults who were not infected with measles, mumps or rubella in childhood.
International Journal of Cancer, 2005;115(4):599-605
Children who are required to be vaccinated against measles have had this anti-cancer protection stripped from them for life. They have been forced to trade a reduced risk of contracting measles for an increased risk of developing cancer later in childhood or as an adult.Did anyone notice that the health dept calls measles “highly contagious” not highly dangerous.
Measles in a child is like a bad cold with rash.
A healthy unvaccinated child is less of a risk than a recently vaccinated child who can she the virus and infect others.
This fear of the unvaccianted is totally irrational!