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Joey – If you cared about America you would never vote the guy who tried to overturn an election, seat fake electors, pressure his VP to violate the Constitution and pressure a state AG to “find him the votes.” You wouldn’t vote for a convicted felon and you wouldn’t vote for a man who wants to ignite a crippling trade war with his insane tariffs. You wouldn’t vote for a guy who spreads racist lies about legal Haitian immigrants and you wouldn’t vote for a guy who spreads lies abc misinformation during times of national disaster. Trump is bad for America and bad for Democracy.
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Keith – under the Iran nuclear deal the Iranian sites were subject to inspection. Saying otherwise is flatly untrue. Trump did not bankrupt or cripple Iran. The money flowed to Hamas under his watch. His own Treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin approved the Qatari fund transfers to Hamas. The fact is Iran increased its uranium production and decreased its breakout time unhindered under Trump. When Trump pulled out of the nuclear deal he boasted that Iran would come begging for a new one and that he would negotiate a better one. This ever happened This is who so many in IDF and Israeli intelligence consider Trump’s pull out of the imperfect but better than nothing deal to be disastrous for Israel
Keith – ISIS was essentially defeated by the US military under Obama. Under Obama the entire caliphate was wrested from their control and they were reduced to one last strong hold of Raqa which was fully surrounded and ready to fall in 2016. Trump had it handed to him on a silver platter and thankfully didn’t mess it all up. In contrast Trump empowered the Taliban, undermined the Afghan government and boasted that he left Biden boxed in to carry out his disastrous capitulation to terrorists. Trump gave the Taliban all they wanted even offering then a visit to Camp David on September 11th.
IMPORTANT: Many frum.yidden are scared into silence by the cultish brainwashed MAGA minions who seek to place anyone who has doubts about supporting their fake Messiah into cherem or otherwise question their Jewishness. These modern day Sabbateans and Frankists who worship the golden calf of MAGA terrify those who have the intelligence to think for themselves. Thankfully come November 5th in the privacy of the voting boot tens of thousands of frum yidden will do their part to end the avodah zarah of Trumpism. May we merit to see the day when the wayward followers of the false messiah recognize their errors and return to the fold of normalcy.
If you vote Trump.you are voting for the guy who gave over 100 million dollars to the Lebanese Military, freed 5000 Taliban fighters, let Iran enrich uranium unhindered and abandoned US Kurdish allies in Syria. You are also voting for the guy who called Hizbullah smart, cursed Bibi and said Abbas is a grandfather type figure who wants peace. The MAGA sickness blinds the cult like followers to Trump’s flaws and demands slavish obedience to the dear leader. Please keep Yiddeshkeit out of your sick ideology.
Trump.cant stop praising Hungary’s Victor Orban. Orban has enabled Putin and Iran. He has allowed Hungarian companies to aid Iran..This is who Trump hails as a strong leader.
You raise a very true point. But MAGA people will never face reality.
Very well said. Sadly, “frum” media has become a propaganda mouthpiece for right-wing MAGA populism. The “frum” newsites and print media brainwash and blind the masses by distorting every issue to fit their preconceived narrative.
Of course there are antisemites in the Democratic party. I in no way support Tlaib, Omar or Van Hollen. At the same time there are some excellent members of the Democratic party as well such as Gotheimer, Federman, Rosen and Goldman. The same holds true with the GOP there are the good guys like Mike Lawler and Dan Bacon and the antisemitic ones like MTG and Tom Massie. The extremes of both parties hold highly problematic positions. The centrists of both parties are generally reasonable and work hard to get things done. My only point is that political parties should not define the identity of a yid. We should be wise enough to see the pros and cons of the issues and decide accordingly and we should stay far away from the grotesque demagoguery of @lakewhut, @yanky1998, @qwetryqwetry.
Every statement I made is a hard fact. Trump with Fuentes, MTG voting against antisemitism bill, Michael Flynn and one religion, 21 Democrats sending letter to Columbia. Sadly my detractors cannot address the points and instead continue to slander just like the person who made the grotesque statement to start this thread. What is even sadder is that one poster says one can’t be a baal teshuva if he votes Democrat. This is simply insane but sadly indicative of the MAGA illness that has taken over yiddeshkeit .The GOP does not stand for the zayin mitzvos. The GOP does not advocate banning the LGBTQ lifestyle. The Christian position on abortion is not synonymous with that of the Torah. One who supports the GOP is not a heretic because much of the GOP advocates for religion that according to many shitas is avodah zarah and one who supports Democrats is not a heretic because of Dem support for LGBTQ rights. The issue is not registering as part of a party for practical political gain the issue is when one’s identity becomes defined by a non-Jewish political philosophy. This is the churban of our time and this is what any self respecting Jew should abhor.
MAGA darling Marjorie Taylor Greene voted no to the bipartisan house bill on antisemitism because she wants to protect her right and the right of her coreligonists to say that Jews killed their savior. It is a sad day when Jewish people chose to put their political affiliation ahead of their Jewishness. Yidden should not be Democrats or Republicans they should be Yidden only and vote on a case by case basis solely based on a proper evaluation of the issues.
Vote Republican so that people like MAGA hero and Trump NSA director Mike Flynn who publicly call for a Christian America with only one religion can be given the levers of government power.
Twenty one Democratic Congressmen signed a public letter spearheaded by Dan Goldman and Josh Gotheimer calling out Columbia University and it’s failure to dismantle the pro-Palestinian encampments. Meanwhile Trump says that people chanting “Genocide Joe” have a good point. Go educate yourself before you slander.
Your comment is imbecilic. Any self respecting Jew would prefer John Fetterman and Josh Gotheimer over Tom Massie and Rand Paul. It’s time to move past FOX News talking points and educate yourself on the issues. And many Jews would obviously have serious misgivings supporting a candidate who unapologetically dines with Kanye and Fuentes. As Americans we should all be weary of a candidate who undermined and undermines the peaceful transfer of power and tried to force his VP to violate his oath to the constitution.
You are a sick kofoi tov. Biden has taken a strong stand in support of Israel despite it costing him support among his base. The progressive base of the Democratic party is up in arms over his resolute support for Israel. Congressional staffers have sent letters of protest over his pro-Israel stance. DNC members have threatened to resign, and his poll numbers among Democrats have sunk because of his unabashed support of Israel. Biden can very likely lose a swing state like Michigan because of his loss of Arab and Muslim support. Your comments are grotesque and show how partisan politics has infected and polluted your mind.
Hopefully, they offer him a plea deal to retire in Slovenia or somewhere remote with a commitment to stay out of American politics so that he will no longer be a danger to American democracy.
Michael Flynn retweeted “not anymore Jews, not anymore” He also called for one religion in America. Paul Gosar has repeatedly spoken together with neo-Nazi’s. Greene Taylor blames the “Rothschilds” for starting California wildfires and spoke at an event hosted by neo Nazi Nick Fuente right after he made jokes about Hitler. Yet all good Jews must vote Republican because Apple made an emoji.
All good Jews must vote for a party whose National Security Advisor tweeted “not again Jews not again” and who called for America to only have one religion because Apple made a pregnant man emoji.
Sure because Apple and Netflix are Democrats. Pure idiocy from those that proudly align themselves with the party of Paul Gosar, Madison Cawthorne, Majorie Greene Taylor, and Lauren Bobart.
Always Ask: I appreciate your points and perspective Tough I may not agree with them I firmly believe that political dialogue and discourse entails listening and considering opinions other than one’s own.
Sadly much of what passes for political discourse today is just juvenile and petty. YWN would do better featuring the views of posters on this thread than what currently passes for oped and “news”.
That being said I believe that Trump’s comments calling Putin a genius on the day he invades a sovereign nation and The House GOP mocking Biden immediately after he addressed the nation in a time of crisis is way out of bounds and shows that Trump and his acolytes in Congress are unfit to serve this great country.
Midwesterner: according to your convoluted logic a government official that is corrupt and is considered incompetent and an impediment to necessary governmental reforms by both the US and EU would receive blanket immunity from American government policy because he happens to also be investigating a company that the son of a high ranking US official works for.
Sure, and the European Union was also out to aid Hunter. Putinesque distortion of reality has sadly been harnessed by Trump and his purveyors of alternative facts.
Midwesterner: Biden never bragged about stopping an investigation into Hunter. He never linked aid to Hunter. The Ukrainian official that the US demanded be removed was a corrupt official suspected of funniling aid to his cronies. This was the position of the US and EU. It was public government policy. Do not try to conflate this with withholding aid unless a PUBLIC investigation is made into an opponent who recently announced he is running against you
Always Ask Questions – Please read my posts before responding and please do not attribute things to me that I clearly did not say. “so, you seem to say that bad things during Biden are due to Trump, during Obama – due to Bush , etc” This is a blatant falsehood or at a minimum a total lack of comprehension.
My point was that most issues are complex and complicated and require a nuanced approach. It is foolish to attribute the fault solely with the person who needs to deal with the consequences of national or global events. That was my point about Clinton and Bush. It was not that it is all Clinton’s or Bush’s fault. I have highlighted many instances of such policy under Trump where Biden is dealing with the consequences (and may well be mismanaging them or not).
When a builder fails to correct a flaw in the foundation of a building it is not a “fact” that the occupant is incompetent because the house collapsed on his watch.
“The facts speak for themselves.” Claiming that George W. Bush is solely responsible for 9/11 despite the fact that Clinton passed on a clear chance to eliminate Bin Laden because the twin towers didn’t come down under Clinton is obvious nonsense. So to those that ignore the very real consequences of Trump’s reckless and destructive policies. Results of failed policies like Clinton’s error often take time to materialize.
What does CNN have to do with the conclusion of the Senate Intelligence Committee? The Republican led committee concluded that Putin interfered to help Trump. Putin prefers Trump.
Trump recked US alliances which was fine and good for Putin. Trump was fine with dissidents being cut up in embassies which is also good for Putin types.
Trump’s policies were a disaster and he left the mess for everyone else. Iran drastically increased uranium production under Trump. Iran decreased it’s nuclear breakout time under Trump. Trump negotiated with the Taliban terrorists and undercut the Afghan government Now that the Orange haired genius is gone it is everybody else’s fault.
Trump installed Jerome Powell as Fed Chair. Trump advocated for easy money policies. He even pushed for an additional 2k stimulus payment opposed by much of the GOP. Inflation is as much Trump’s issue as anyone elses and probably more so.
We are all old enough to remember how Trump did Putin’s bidding on the world stage in Helsinki. Thank goodness the autocrat wanna-be is gone and busy with his new Pravda Social.
And the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of Donald Trump. It is quite obvious that Putin prefers Trump.
It does not mean that all non Jews hate Jews. It does not mean that non Jews always hate Jews at all times and it does not mean that every non Jews has a secret inner hatred of Jews. Rav Eliyahu Henkin zt”l refers to such talk as silly against the Torah and plainly untrue.
Thank Hashem that you were born into a community that is affluent. That even if you are not wealthy you can easily make connections with people that are. Thank Hashem that you have access to many members of our community that can provide funds for investments and provide help when needed. Recognize that many people in America do not have that ability. Recognize that communities of color tend to be poorer and that they do not have the same access to capital and aid. Try to care for others instead of hating them. Try to understand the difficulties that others face. Instead of focusing on the bad focus on the good. Trumpian right-wing rage is not good for your health or well-being it is also not good for political discourse in this country. Next time there is an instance of Police violence don’t reflexively dismiss it. Read about Emmett Till. Read about the lynchings in the Jim Crow south. Don’t hide from history learn from it.
Health – No, voting Democrat does not make one a Democrat, and being a Democrat does not mean that you agree with all of their policies. Many Democrats disagree among themselves as in Manchin and Sanders. Being a Republican also does not mean that you agree with all Republican policies and Republicans themselves have a diversity of opinions as in Cheney and McCarthy.
The one political movement that demands full fealty to and adoration of its leader and his ideas is populist Trumpism. No dissent is tolerated in the Trumpian political world. One may say he dislikes Trump’s style but must believe fully that every policy of Trump was brilliant and that those who criticize him are evil traitors bent on destroying America.
Please recognize that the Trumpian populist rage media likes it when its adherents rage against others. They like to stir the passions of anger and resentment. Try to extricate yourself from the quagmire. Cut out the name-calling. Listen to the other side once in a while. Recognize that both sides have validity and that no one is evil.
Philosopher – Your comments on “blacks” reek from racism. Your personal experiences do not give you license to tarnish an entire race with comments such as “Blacks have killed Jews, many blacks hate Jews, I have personally had blacks displaying racism towards me. ” Those comments are revolting and disgusting. Whites killed Jews as well many hate Jews as well yet it would be wrong to label whites as such and so to blacks.
Health – It seems like you can’t control the name-calling, Now it’s DemonCrats etc.
My humble advice is to see the good in people even those who have different skin color or a different outlook on issues. Recognize the hardships and sufferings of other people and ethnicities, Recognize that you are blessed to be born into an affluent community and that not everyone is as lucky as you are. Work on containing your rage and hate. Try turning off the populist conservative rage media for a day or so. Enjoy life. Life is good.