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Really now? as far as I can tell ALL shuls in Forshay open, Sheiners, Rottenberg, Twerski, Schnall, Warfman are all open, what shuls are still closed?, in fact the shuls in Wesley and Montebello reopened for the most part.
May 22, 2020 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm in reply to: Gravestone (matzeva) Inscriptions seeking opinions/advice #1863682commonsaychelParticipantthe most common way I have seen is on the back or a foot stone, some write it on the bottom, following the names you write Hay yud daled= hashem yekom domoy
commonsaychelParticipantThe President just gave a plug to reopen shuls.
commonsaychelParticipant@Charlie Hall, you are in Toronto, NY numbers show about 50% antibodies and the frum number is closer to 75%.
May 21, 2020 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm in reply to: Minyanim Legal in New York starting tomorrow #1863438commonsaychelParticipant@a yid2.0 There is a island off the coast of New Zeeland with self contained bunkers if your interested
May 21, 2020 10:51 am at 10:51 am in reply to: Minyanim Legal in New York starting tomorrow #1863057commonsaychelParticipant@lower tution, the vaad of 5 towns is a kashut supervision agency
commonsaychelParticipantNeh then they will worry about the side effects of the vaccine
May 20, 2020 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm in reply to: Minyanim Legal in New York starting tomorrow #1862909commonsaychelParticipantour shul and just about all shuls in Monsey have or will reopened into smaller minyanim, for example downstairs, ezras nashim etc, I hear the most of Brooklyn will reopen and almost all of the 5 towns will remain closed
commonsaychelParticipantStarting tomorrow miyanim are legal in NYS
May 20, 2020 8:55 am at 8:55 am in reply to: Can someone explain to me why some frum people are cavalier about corona virus #1862622commonsaychelParticipantn0m, having lived thru a number of crises including 9/11 Iearned to focus on my time constructively,
The thinking and rethinking that I did focused in myself not on yennims. For example I am starting a new business project that I was a able to focus on, I managed to make a siyum on a mesktah.
Hopefully as you mature you will understandMay 19, 2020 2:45 pm at 2:45 pm in reply to: Can someone explain to me why some frum people are cavalier about corona virus #1862370commonsaychelParticipantYitzymotcha:
“I’ve been thinking about that alot during the corona virus.”
Get a hobby, learn a new language, take a online course, find a way to spend your time consecutively instead of thinking so much.commonsaychelParticipantI noticed the miyanim are getting bigger and bigger by the day, so I guess its no longer an issue
May 19, 2020 8:36 am at 8:36 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1862092commonsaychelParticipanta judge in Oregon threw out the shelter in place rules in that state yesterday
commonsaychelParticipantYes you can, action speaks louder the words, if your Rav believes he should open he will and otherwise he wonts.
commonsaychelParticipantIt looks like we will have our shuls open for shevous as per Gov. Cuomo, what would the anti minyanairs now that the dina dmalchusa is off the table
commonsaychelParticipant@sariray, consult your local frum publication, you will see ads for the frum store and they will try to accommodate you, its fine, people like yehudayona never supported frum small business anyway/
commonsaychelParticipantReb Eliezer, Maybe just Maybe the Rav is being bossed around by the board to do the dirty work, if you have any friends in around Deerfield ask around
May 17, 2020 10:20 am at 10:20 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1861362commonsaychelParticipantNot looking to good for Gov.. Murphy, this is the 5th federal court to rule against the state:, state does not the plan to appeal:
A federal judge in North Carolina on Saturday sided with conservative Christian leaders and blocked the enforcement of restrictions that Gov. Roy Cooper ordered affecting indoor religious services during the coronavirus pandemic.
The order from Judge James C. Dever III came days after two Baptist churches, a minister and a Christian revival group filed a federal lawsuit seeking to immediately block enforcement of rules covering religious services within the Democratic governor’s executive orders. Dever agreed with the plaintiffs, who argued that the limits violate their rights to worship freely and treat churches differently from retailers and other secular activities.commonsaychelParticipantI heard from a member of YIDB that a email went out to the membership saying that the letter spilt the kehillah and lman hasholem please disregard the letter
commonsaychelParticipant@Lowerturion me kiamcha yisroel
commonsaychelParticipant@abba , the case in Tom River is suing under RUPLA and that forces the municipality to try to make reasonable accommodation, so far that has not happened, having 9 other people in your condo is no different then inviting the over to a card game and that happens daily in the retirement communities.
commonsaychelParticipanta lot of the frum stores advertise in the local papers such as community connections in Monsey, Lakewood scoop in Lakewood, 5 town Jewish time in the 5 towns, Torah times in Brooklyn, the view in Monsey and Brooklyn, not that hard to find stores and give the parnasah to your neighbor.
PS The view had a really nice article last week about the minhag of taking a 3 year old to school tp learn the alpeh baiscommonsaychelParticipant@anonymous, read what I wrote, neigher Vaad of Miami OR ORB put out an a statement closing shuls, the reason I referenced both is because those are the two local boards of rabbis for South Florida.
PS I drove from NMB to Deerfield during non rush hour and it took 28 minutescommonsaychelParticipant@annoymus, these people did the same thing the Friday night people did, davened with a minyan, all participants were able bodies competent adults who knew what ever risk they were taking, no one was forced there.
Davening with a minyan is 1005 legal because it is listed as a essential service by the governor.
As far as the breakaway a number of fairly wealthy members are sick of the ego trips by the board and have no issues funding it, quite a number vacant commercial space within a stones throw of YIDBcommonsaychelParticipant@godal Just out of curiosity, if the Rav in YIDB would have said no one who go to a mixed pool is allowed to go the amud or that women who don’t cover the hair even while not in shul would have the membership revoked would you still feel that way?
commonsaychelParticipantn0m. exactly my point, the Lakewood rabbonim were talking as a group, the 5 town rabbonim were talking as a group, same with Passic. Your not going to get everyone to agree but you can get a general consencus for the local area.
Sorry but there is nothing out there from ORB or Vaad of Miami on shuls during corona.commonsaychelParticipant@n0m for violating some rule, no I would not
commonsaychelParticipant@Amil, I was curious about the incident that you had, I went onto the ADL Seattle chapter website and there was no listing of such an event going back to 2015, that stuff would have made the report.
FYI, there was a fatal stabbing in Monsey on Chanukah and a double murder in Jersey City and numerous assaults’ in NYC perpetuated by, drumroll please, African Americans, NAACP organized a blockade of the frum stores on Friday Afternoon,
A African American group would amass on the lawns of local frum school board members an harass them, therefore……….. Nothing.commonsaychelParticipantanonymous jew, fact is YI is closed when the State of Florida allows it to be open, and some of its members said enough is enough. There is plenty of empty office space outside CV that can accommodate a smaller minyan.
PS Chabad is just around the corner from YIcommonsaychelParticipant@Abba, I know of a few wealth people who would fund the .25 a copy for the 66, 70, and 90 and its only since march properly only like $1000.
@Amil lets concentrate on the message not on the messenger, for example the NAACP decided to stage a blockade of the local kosher supermarket right before Shabbos to inconvenience frum Jews, we can sadly find fault with a lot of groups, lets talk about tattling on your neighbors not whos idea this was,commonsaychelParticipantAmil guess what the very same things happened right here in Rockland and who intimidating the people? the left wingers and the conservationist, sadly we get hate on both sides,
commonsaychelParticipantNEWS FLASH: Florida allows all houses of worship to operate, so there is no issue of dina demalusah and this happens off premise of YI so frankly its non of the their business. Its all about a bunch of grumpy old men on power trips.
commonsaychelParticipantAmil Zola, I have a deep feeling of disgust of one person ratting out his friends and neighbors, and sunlight is the best disinfectant, if your going to rat then be prepared that your friends and neighbors know what type of person you are.
Frankly I could not care less if the person exposing these people are Morgan on the right or Mark Bray of Antifa on the Left.
Sadly history is filled with stories of people who were “concerned public citizens” and ratted on the neighbors to Franco and Nazis of the right and KGB, NKVD and Maoism on the left.commonsaychelParticipant@amil, a broken clock is right two times a day
commonsaychelParticipant@Abba, You don’t need to be a lawyer to file a foil, you just ask for the records anyone can do it.
@n0m, you want my opinion on this? I think if your going to report on someone be prepared to have your name exposed so the people know all about you. If you cant handle that then don’t report your friends and neighborscommonsaychelParticipantand some people comment even if they are not old enough to vote
commonsaychelParticipantThe entire Washington state, the agency asked them to leave the contact information including emails, all of that is allowed under FOIL. some of the complaints were anonymous most were not
commonsaychelParticipantNo matter how many times you submit it, it ain’t going through – 29
May 10, 2020 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1859143commonsaychelParticipantn0m, are you asking out of the genuine desire to understand what is being discussed or do you want to give your opinion?
commonsaychelParticipant37 States opened in some way, cases are dropping and the busybodies are shutting up.
May 9, 2020 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858992commonsaychelParticipantInteresting the Court of Appeal in the 6th circuit came down with a ruling on Friday afternoon allowing unlimited access to houses of worship so long as they maintain social distancing, this is the highest level of review so far.
PS n0m when I was a teen I thought I knew all the answers and as the years past I saw how little I knew, nothing personal its just part of growing up.
May 8, 2020 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858907commonsaychelParticipantn0m, I will answer you in 15 years when you are no longer a teen with a teen state of mind
May 8, 2020 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858863commonsaychelParticipant@Redleg, n0m is a teen with no real life experience and no grasp of law, I would not take his comments seriously.
May 8, 2020 11:57 am at 11:57 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858780commonsaychelParticipant@charliehall, that is the gist of the whole case, the plaintiffs in the case Robinson and Knopfler are suing for what they see as governmental overreach, is it? it up a Judge to decide and it properly go to appeal and this is being fast tracked. this is what the Sixth Circuit Court Of Appeals wrote: ” The breadth of the ban on religious services, together with a haven for numerous secular exceptions, should give pause to anyone who prizes religious freedom,” the panel wrote,
In refence to your second comment, We are Jews and US citizens, we are afforded rights under the bill of rights and its amendments, Frum Jews are not whining they are exercising a right given in the US constitution. [if I remember right Charlie, you are a Canadian and therefore may not be familiar that US system].
In the Jacobson case it warned against arbitrary or oppressive regulations to be implemented, FYI this a 1905 case and during that time the courts were not very concerned about individual liberties, during that term the courts threw out laws allowing collective bargaining and limiting worker hours.
Judaism is about obligations, only a Rabbi know what obligation takes precedence over others. For that consult YOUR rov, and YOUR rov should pasken for YOU and YOU ONLY.
Some feel that if you are antibody positive and maintain social distance you can daven indoors, other feel the outdoor minyan is that way to go, others feel beyidus is the way to go, yet other feel that you need a secured a secure bunker in a island off the coast of New Zeeland.May 8, 2020 7:29 am at 7:29 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858635commonsaychelParticipantn0mesoah, The only part of the law where you need intent is in criminal law and this is a civil rights action
May 7, 2020 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858543commonsaychelParticipantHuh? how did we morph from a freedom of religion or more precisely a government overreach issue to paycheck???, totally lost you on that.
May 7, 2020 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858277commonsaychelParticipant@Milhouse I was always wondering about the genuine Calvin Klein and Gucci handbags for sale for sale for $20 on the streets of Manhattan, I just found out is a freedom of speech thing. LOL
commonsaychelParticipant@syag I didn’t bring any bias to my comment, my son and multiple nephews and nieces didn’t go to EY this year because of corona and guess what, we all managed just fine.
We managed with less and life went on.May 7, 2020 8:26 am at 8:26 am in reply to: Lawsuit in NJ to force the state to allow worship service #1858167commonsaychelParticipantMilhouse
I stand corrected I read the MoL on the filing, and one of the case laws was the Police Case, it was not the primary case law but one of several of the minor ones.
I also think n0m know what legal standing means because standing was never in contentioncommonsaychelParticipantTake the 8-12 K that it cost and give three quarters of that the keren yesomim campaigns and with the remainder send her to a local one, people managed with simple weddings, bucherim can manage without the zman in EY and so can the sem girls.
One of the silver linings of covid 19 is that we discovered that we can make due with less. -
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