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3 factors:
1. NYC as a whole took a hard turn to the left, someone like Rudy could never get elected today.
2 The ethnic Europeans who we were able to count on help with to push a common agenda no longer exist they all move away, for example Benonhurst and Bay Ridge were mostly Irish and Italians, Greenpoint was Polish, certain areas of the Bronx were Albanians, most of these moved away and those districts went left.
3. The Frum people became the issue, with Footsteps Etc., books by Deen, Feldman and Company, it became fashionable to knock the Frum community. This led to formation of groups like Preserve Ramapo/Rockland, Save Monroe, Rise up Orange County.
So anyone running for office has to make a decision who they want to support the Frum or the Anti Frum, there is no common ground anymore.The camps are suing Cuomo to be allowed to reopen
@yehudayona, Actually the head of infectious diseases for Montefiore [ a major teaching hospital vs a community hospital] disputes Dr. Glatt opinion.
@Health, Actually Don was center / center left kind of a moderate blue dog dem on the few time that we talked politics, it was a learning experience for both of us. I had to teach him about Shabbos, Kosher etc. and he told me about life in rural Appalachia. The funnies conversations was when he would speak to my wife and she would speak in Brooklynese and he would talk in Appalachian and they hardly understood each other.
To all the people who posted here that they live in Israel because of the mitzva, just curious if you raise donkeys too because of mitzva of petter chomor and raise sheep because of the mitzva of Raish hagez
@ Lower tution, hate to break it to you but South Nassau is hardly a major hospital, in fact is from the bottom 1/3 of bed capacity in NYS. Should I be given a choice of South Nassau or LIJ that is 8 miles away I would pick LIJ without a shadow of a doubt and so would 90% of the people in the 5 towns.
Syag, on the contrary, Actually I know discrimination against Frum people is alive and well, I experienced it first hand, I was not hired numerous times even if I was the most qualified person because I am a visibly Frum person.
One of the funniest interviews I ever had was with a guy who was from rural Kentucky who never met a Jew in his life and asked me to explain “what that thing on my head is” I got the job anyway and he was one of the nicest people I ever worked for.
What I was bringing out in my comment is that as a rule once you are working at a place they generally don’t care about Shabbos or Yom tov as long as you carry your weight.
In any event we are veering off topic of Bostock v Clayton@Health. Interesting, I worked for the Federal and NYC government as well corporate America, I never had an issue with Shabbos with one exception, once when I had a openly anti semtic boss who once wrote me a nasty email once for leaving early of Friday, I spoke to the number two person in HR who spoke to her and I never had an issue again.
The one time I had an issue when I was the finalist to get hired for NYC and my boss who was African American and wanted to hire the other finalist who was a African American, long story but I ended up getting the job, and this had nothing to do with Shabbos just that he preferred a African American.
Were you suing a private entity or a governmental agency?@ Yehudayona, private jet with you in a sealed box so you don’t pick up germs along the way
some1- Now with this ruling, Bostock v Clayton it includes LGBT. so its a moot point.
@some1, Masterpiece Cakeshop v Colorado allows for religious exemptions for same sex accommodations therefore it affect yeshivas.
As to the second part, that was the whole crux of this case, does the sex discrimination part of the Civil Right Act of 1964 including bases on orientation or just gender? and the Court ruled it to be broadly defined.@Reb Elizer, start a new topic on this, the topic we are talking about Bostock v Clayton not about where to live
@Joesph the only time one gets called on the carpet for posting a bigoted comment on the internet is when that person is in the position of power and it may reflect negatively on the perception of unequal treatment, therefore they have a right [and possible obligation] to terminate that person.
In the case of Bostock all he did was promote his gay baseball league, he certainly didn’t make negative remarks about heterosexuals.
In the case of Holly Lobby there are religious exceptions to workplaces.
So If someone works for Avis, Delta, Verizon or my local plumber and is a man who wears a dress who cares@Yehudayona, even a better idea, put on a full bunny suit and go to a bunker in an island off the coast of New Zeeland
@ By1212 and dbrim, the topic here is Bostock v Clayton, somehow or other this morphed into a whole other topic, if you want to go off topic then start a new one relating to Israel v US.
Let me just say this last comment, I am appointing both of you be motza me with the mitzva of Yishuv es haeretz just like I have Hatzloah represent me in saving lives. I will wait here until the geulah comes.Joseph, it depends if your in a collective bargaining unit , then your contract rules supreme, most places of employment when they hire you usually put a clause in the hiring agreement saying they have a right to terminate you if you post something on social media that will reflect badly on the cooperate image.
A far cry from have a trans working a counter at a airline gate or serving meals in a restaurant.
PS its obvious that you never worked outside the daled amos of the frum area.@dbrim, hashem will call us home on the great day, it should happen quickly. Until then we are in golus including in Efrat, Bet Shemesh and Chevron etc,
PS lets not turn this into an Israel vs the US, its about a US Supreme Court ruling@ Neril, why don’t you move to a ranch in Wyoming, some counties there have zero cases. or better yet to Papua New Guiana, no cases there.
Sorry Chicken Little the sky is not falling@Joesph, this is probably one of the few times I agree with Charlie Hall, The police and the governmental agencies have unions and are part of the bargaining unit and in the contract it would spell out limits of behavior outside of work, if your job involves public trust you can and need to be held to a higher standard.
If an employee sells cameras, rents me a car or works in a library and is a male who is wearing a dress how does that diminish public trust.@Someone, I actually worked with several, gays, trans, etc. Sometime Claire wore a dress and most of the time she/he wore jeans and frankly I could not care less, they were competent employees and had good annual reviews. What they do on the own time is none of my beeswax.
Bob was his own man in many ways, he died in 2013.
thanksHate to break it to you, I am probably as conservative as they come and I have no issue with working along side of who/ what ever my co workers are. If they are competent and do the job well who cares what they are.
The trend to own summer homes vs renting a bungalow started about 25 years ago, now about 75% of the people own units vs renting them so my guess is that there will be minimal changes in the number of people going, if anything with sleepaway camps closed in NYS there will be a greater demand for housing in the Catskills,
Quite a number of camps are going out of state for this summer and renting out camps the have decided not to open, for example Agudah is opening in New Hampshire, Krasna is opening in PA., Bobov is opening in Ma. Gan Yisroel is expanding in the out of state locations.
Now is official , no camp in NYS account
Dear N0M,
The total number of new cases in NYS this WEEK and that is what I am talking about is 3108.
Make a note to yourself that after you leave yeshiva not to become a CPA, numbers is not your thing@Charlie Hall, I look at Trumps Kitchen Cabinet and at Bidens advisors and its a no brainer, its who you surround yourself with and Biden people are all J Street types
@lowerTution, wow Rabbi Dr. Glatt just realized that 99% of all people tested this week in NYS were negative, I think YI of Woodmere should permanently move to be a virtual synagogue it much safer that way, no car crashes on the way to shul, No alcohol deaths from the kiddish club, no trips and falls on the premises by the elderly.
grow up@chicken little a/k/a koton hatorah, Your poor attempt at juvenile humor does not dignify a response
This weeks NYS test numbers are less then 1% tested positive and that the community at large, not just frum
@ Abba, ALL SHULS in Monsey are now fully open, some are enforcing masks and social distance most are not, and three weeks like this and no spikes, sorry to all Chicken Littles
@ Abba S, my neighbor stayed inside and had no contact with anyone and guess what? they had antibodies, I never got sick and had antibody count off the charts, go figure.
I think this whole discussion is moot because about 80% of the shuls are running full force and by the time Yomim Tovim roll along it will be a distant memory, with possible exceptions of one or two shuls in Riverdale and Woodmere@Godal You can always go to Syria they only have 7 cases per Million of population
@Godal My suggestion to you is to rent a bunker off the coast of New Zeeland and spend the summer there or perhaps Yemen with no case, you sure will be save.
Huju:
I am a visibly chasidish man [ beard yalmuka etc.] I use to work for the City of NY, one February we all took a Black History quiz on a lark, and guess what? I was the high scorer, ahead of 3 African Americans.
One of black guys [ who I thought was a bigot] said, very well that’s the way it should be white people need to know black history so I told him, Carl, here is what is the difference I study history, white, black, Asian or whatever and you just focus on black history@CharlieHall, I hope fat Jerry loses big time, he is a disgrace and never supported Boro Park, way too busy kotowing to the far left.
Worse comes to worse if he loses he can get a huge from Avi WeissMy role models are Booker T Washington and George Washington Carver, they had a goal of education, its a shame this goal is lost on today generation of African Americans
Chaim Shulem, yeah its true, you probably have less 1000 Jews in either of these states, and to top it off Montana is the 4th largest state in the union, just to get from one part of the state to the other can take hours even with high speed limits that are nominally enforced. [ I have a picture I took at the rest area of a cow and the caption read “just because you see more cows then cops does not mean you cant get a ticket”]
So the shilaich focus is on Kiruv and serving the guest at Yellowstone along with the shilach at Jackson Wy.@Chaim Shulem, actually Boise and Bozeman both have mivkahs, miyanim there are sporadic, [mostly Chabad and limited to yomtov and occasional Shabbos] I use to come annually to Montana when I was doing business there, friendly people, very pro business environment and contrary to what you hear I had no issues there being a visible frum yid whereas I get plenty of hate in the outskirts of Monsey, if you love amazing views and outdoors this is the place.
Call the governor
Read between the line, NYS wont allow it
With camps in limbo if they will be allowed to open, NY Governor Cuimo says a decision on whether sleep away camps can open this summer in New York is yet to be made. In an interview this morning, Cuomo told Long Island News Radio that the issue is the inflammatory illness believed to be related to the cronavirus that has been affecting children, and concerns over spreading it.
Cuomo reiterated that as the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths decline, summer day camps can start to open at the end of the month. He said no decision has been made on sleepaway camps.So, he added, “Summer day camps are going to open on June 29. We’re still reviewing the situation with sleepaway camps.”
“I’m making that decision like it’s my own daughter. Today, if you asked me I would send my daughter to sleep away camp, I would not, Cuomo said.”I hear some talk of opening some camps out of state but limited to 11-14 year old’s, I guess the younger ones will manage with day camps
@charlie Hall, There was a storekeeper on 13th Ave. who tried to hug the cop who was giving him the ticket and for some odd reason the cop was not impressed, I guess Weiss has more experience in hugging people.
PS I will try hugging the cop next time I am stopped