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Facts are less then 1% of people in NY area test positive theses days, its basically over, why not open camps

@Joseph, if that’s what you think you have some major issues with reality.
@ Someone, Exactly we need to live morals not with worry who the flight attendant lives with.

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@Joesph, it is certainly not going to get him mizrach vant in most botay medresh and not a huge plus on the resume. I was bringing this as an example not my personal opinion.
My personal opinion is that I would sooner do a shiddich with an honest poor person then with a rich crook.

Your going to get married, my advice for you is that shadchonim try to match a negative with negative so to speak, so be prepared that they will try to red you every misfit in town, ie father in prison, people with mental health issues etc etc. Wait for the right one and don’t let yourself get bullied.

@someone, hate to break it to you, but this a ruling of a secular jurisprudence system, they are not paskining halachah, they are very separate and distinct. Frankly I doubt if Judge Sotomayor or Roberts ever hear of the Malbim and rightfully could not care less what his opinion is.
If you have a dispute with a yid that belong is bais din, and frankly I get sick when I see two yidden sue in civil court, in the case of Bostock he was not Jewish and nor were the elected officials of Clayton County.

My guess is about 2/3rds of the male flight attendants are gay therefore I should stop flying or just not be hyper focused on other peoples sexuality.
I am a Chasidisher Yingerman who works outside the daled amos of Monsey, I have worked with Gays, Lesbians, Bi and Trans and found them to be competent employees who just do the job and go home.

@charliehall
“However, now that we are loudly blasting De Blasio, who has kowtowed to charedi leadership more than any non Jewish politician ever”
Really now? I think you have no grasp of reality, name me 5 things he did that benefited Charedi Jews.
He was the worse mayor for the frum olam since David Dinkins and the Crown Heights Riot.
wait he once hugged Avi Weiss, does that count has doing something positive for Frum People?

@Huju, Bob Grant’s comments were mild compared to the racist anti white drivel I use to hear on WBAI

@truebt
Do you raise donkeys to do the mitzva of petter chomor?

two points,
1 The Torah is not egalitarian, everything from laws of inheritance to witnesses to service in the bais hamikdosh is not equal, in spite of attempts by people like Avi Weiss, it is not equal nor will it ever be.
2. Having worked in both corporate America and the government I can tell you that if your halfway competent and black doors will open for you and never are open for anyone else, so to say that there is prevalent racism out there is bogus.

@Eli51, Really? that’s a shocker, after Reb Naftali Jeager kept on hocking against davening with minyan

@ Godol Hatorah: “They are fortunate because I suspect many frum families don’t have the time, resources or motivation to pursue this type of summer vacation.”
The resources are there this year as is the time, the money they saved in camp fees can be used for a road trip, its most likely be far less was camp cost unless they went on full scholarship.

The practical learning that they pick up during the trips stays with them for life.
For example we went tidal bore rafting in Nova Scotia where during the high tide the river reverses flow and my kids learnt about high tides and low tide and the gravitation pull that differs during the month.
We also visited the Jewish Cemetery in Halifax NS were the Jewish steerage victims of the Titanic are buried.
At Yellowstone a Ranger explained to the elk migrated to a area of the park that then were never in after the wolf were introduced
In Gatlinburg we went to the crafts village and saw how various item are made.

It would be a shame to squander the opportunity given now that camps have been canceled.
PS with the internet its very easy set up minyanim with your fellow travelers.

@dovidbt, religious exemptions was cover in the Mastercake decision last year, there are religious exemptions.

@Yehudayona,
“To add to what Huju said, you spread droplets when you talk or sing. The louder you are, the more droplets you spread”
for the past month there has been loud protests in the New York area with very loud screaming and vast majority no wearing masks and zero social distancing, yet NYS, NJ and CT is showing testing less then 1% positives on all tests for the past two weeks.

3 factors:
1. NYC as a whole took a hard turn to the left, someone like Rudy could never get elected today.
2 The ethnic Europeans who we were able to count on help with to push a common agenda no longer exist they all move away, for example Benonhurst and Bay Ridge were mostly Irish and Italians, Greenpoint was Polish, certain areas of the Bronx were Albanians, most of these moved away and those districts went left.
3. The Frum people became the issue, with Footsteps Etc., books by Deen, Feldman and Company, it became fashionable to knock the Frum community. This led to formation of groups like Preserve Ramapo/Rockland, Save Monroe, Rise up Orange County.
So anyone running for office has to make a decision who they want to support the Frum or the Anti Frum, there is no common ground anymore.

@yehudayona, Actually the head of infectious diseases for Montefiore [ a major teaching hospital vs a community hospital] disputes Dr. Glatt opinion.

To all the people who posted here that they live in Israel because of the mitzva, just curious if you raise donkeys too because of mitzva of petter chomor and raise sheep because of the mitzva of Raish hagez

Syag, on the contrary, Actually I know discrimination against Frum people is alive and well, I experienced it first hand, I was not hired numerous times even if I was the most qualified person because I am a visibly Frum person.
One of the funniest interviews I ever had was with a guy who was from rural Kentucky who never met a Jew in his life and asked me to explain “what that thing on my head is” I got the job anyway and he was one of the nicest people I ever worked for.
What I was bringing out in my comment is that as a rule once you are working at a place they generally don’t care about Shabbos or Yom tov as long as you carry your weight.
In any event we are veering off topic of Bostock v Clayton

@ Yehudayona, private jet with you in a sealed box so you don’t pick up germs along the way

@some1, Masterpiece Cakeshop v Colorado allows for religious exemptions for same sex accommodations therefore it affect yeshivas.
As to the second part, that was the whole crux of this case, does the sex discrimination part of the Civil Right Act of 1964 including bases on orientation or just gender? and the Court ruled it to be broadly defined.

@Joesph the only time one gets called on the carpet for posting a bigoted comment on the internet is when that person is in the position of power and it may reflect negatively on the perception of unequal treatment, therefore they have a right [and possible obligation] to terminate that person.
In the case of Bostock all he did was promote his gay baseball league, he certainly didn’t make negative remarks about heterosexuals.
In the case of Holly Lobby there are religious exceptions to workplaces.
So If someone works for Avis, Delta, Verizon or my local plumber and is a man who wears a dress who cares

@ By1212 and dbrim, the topic here is Bostock v Clayton, somehow or other this morphed into a whole other topic, if you want to go off topic then start a new one relating to Israel v US.
Let me just say this last comment, I am appointing both of you be motza me with the mitzva of Yishuv es haeretz just like I have Hatzloah represent me in saving lives. I will wait here until the geulah comes.

@dbrim, hashem will call us home on the great day, it should happen quickly. Until then we are in golus including in Efrat, Bet Shemesh and Chevron etc,
PS lets not turn this into an Israel vs the US, its about a US Supreme Court ruling

@Joesph, this is probably one of the few times I agree with Charlie Hall, The police and the governmental agencies have unions and are part of the bargaining unit and in the contract it would spell out limits of behavior outside of work, if your job involves public trust you can and need to be held to a higher standard.
If an employee sells cameras, rents me a car or works in a library and is a male who is wearing a dress how does that diminish public trust.

@Someone, I actually worked with several, gays, trans, etc. Sometime Claire wore a dress and most of the time she/he wore jeans and frankly I could not care less, they were competent employees and had good annual reviews. What they do on the own time is none of my beeswax.