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June 18, 2020 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1874122commonsaychelParticipant
@ Lower tution, hate to break it to you but South Nassau is hardly a major hospital, in fact is from the bottom 1/3 of bed capacity in NYS. Should I be given a choice of South Nassau or LIJ that is 8 miles away I would pick LIJ without a shadow of a doubt and so would 90% of the people in the 5 towns.
commonsaychelParticipantSyag, on the contrary, Actually I know discrimination against Frum people is alive and well, I experienced it first hand, I was not hired numerous times even if I was the most qualified person because I am a visibly Frum person.
One of the funniest interviews I ever had was with a guy who was from rural Kentucky who never met a Jew in his life and asked me to explain “what that thing on my head is” I got the job anyway and he was one of the nicest people I ever worked for.
What I was bringing out in my comment is that as a rule once you are working at a place they generally don’t care about Shabbos or Yom tov as long as you carry your weight.
In any event we are veering off topic of Bostock v ClaytoncommonsaychelParticipant@Health. Interesting, I worked for the Federal and NYC government as well corporate America, I never had an issue with Shabbos with one exception, once when I had a openly anti semtic boss who once wrote me a nasty email once for leaving early of Friday, I spoke to the number two person in HR who spoke to her and I never had an issue again.
The one time I had an issue when I was the finalist to get hired for NYC and my boss who was African American and wanted to hire the other finalist who was a African American, long story but I ended up getting the job, and this had nothing to do with Shabbos just that he preferred a African American.
Were you suing a private entity or a governmental agency?June 17, 2020 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1873769commonsaychelParticipant@ Yehudayona, private jet with you in a sealed box so you don’t pick up germs along the way
commonsaychelParticipantsome1- Now with this ruling, Bostock v Clayton it includes LGBT. so its a moot point.
commonsaychelParticipant@some1, Masterpiece Cakeshop v Colorado allows for religious exemptions for same sex accommodations therefore it affect yeshivas.
As to the second part, that was the whole crux of this case, does the sex discrimination part of the Civil Right Act of 1964 including bases on orientation or just gender? and the Court ruled it to be broadly defined.commonsaychelParticipant@Reb Elizer, start a new topic on this, the topic we are talking about Bostock v Clayton not about where to live
commonsaychelParticipant@Joesph the only time one gets called on the carpet for posting a bigoted comment on the internet is when that person is in the position of power and it may reflect negatively on the perception of unequal treatment, therefore they have a right [and possible obligation] to terminate that person.
In the case of Bostock all he did was promote his gay baseball league, he certainly didn’t make negative remarks about heterosexuals.
In the case of Holly Lobby there are religious exceptions to workplaces.
So If someone works for Avis, Delta, Verizon or my local plumber and is a man who wears a dress who caresJune 17, 2020 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1873509commonsaychelParticipant@Yehudayona, even a better idea, put on a full bunny suit and go to a bunker in an island off the coast of New Zeeland
commonsaychelParticipant@ By1212 and dbrim, the topic here is Bostock v Clayton, somehow or other this morphed into a whole other topic, if you want to go off topic then start a new one relating to Israel v US.
Let me just say this last comment, I am appointing both of you be motza me with the mitzva of Yishuv es haeretz just like I have Hatzloah represent me in saving lives. I will wait here until the geulah comes.commonsaychelParticipantJoseph, it depends if your in a collective bargaining unit , then your contract rules supreme, most places of employment when they hire you usually put a clause in the hiring agreement saying they have a right to terminate you if you post something on social media that will reflect badly on the cooperate image.
A far cry from have a trans working a counter at a airline gate or serving meals in a restaurant.
PS its obvious that you never worked outside the daled amos of the frum area.commonsaychelParticipant@dbrim, hashem will call us home on the great day, it should happen quickly. Until then we are in golus including in Efrat, Bet Shemesh and Chevron etc,
PS lets not turn this into an Israel vs the US, its about a US Supreme Court rulingcommonsaychelParticipant@ Neril, why don’t you move to a ranch in Wyoming, some counties there have zero cases. or better yet to Papua New Guiana, no cases there.
Sorry Chicken Little the sky is not fallingcommonsaychelParticipant@Joesph, this is probably one of the few times I agree with Charlie Hall, The police and the governmental agencies have unions and are part of the bargaining unit and in the contract it would spell out limits of behavior outside of work, if your job involves public trust you can and need to be held to a higher standard.
If an employee sells cameras, rents me a car or works in a library and is a male who is wearing a dress how does that diminish public trust.commonsaychelParticipant@Coffee, you obviously have no clue about white water rafting , during the spring time water is very cold the water temps average about mid sixties and air temps was mid sixties, no one wears a bathing suit in that weather. Some people wore wetsuits [that covers the entire body and is like a suit], so to answer your question sorry but no skin was showing, it was way too cold.
BTW summer time I have flown on planes with people who were showing more skin then you seen at most poolscommonsaychelParticipant@Someone, I actually worked with several, gays, trans, etc. Sometime Claire wore a dress and most of the time she/he wore jeans and frankly I could not care less, they were competent employees and had good annual reviews. What they do on the own time is none of my beeswax.
commonsaychelParticipantBob was his own man in many ways, he died in 2013.
thankscommonsaychelParticipant@Joseph because a commercial grade raft cost upwards of $10,000 and I don’t raft often enough to spend that type of money and they don’t do solo trips on class 3 rivers.
PS I don’t fly on private jets either, I use commercial airlines, do you fly on private jets?commonsaychelParticipantHate to break it to you, I am probably as conservative as they come and I have no issue with working along side of who/ what ever my co workers are. If they are competent and do the job well who cares what they are.
commonsaychelParticipantThe trend to own summer homes vs renting a bungalow started about 25 years ago, now about 75% of the people own units vs renting them so my guess is that there will be minimal changes in the number of people going, if anything with sleepaway camps closed in NYS there will be a greater demand for housing in the Catskills,
June 14, 2020 12:16 am at 12:16 am in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1871769commonsaychelParticipantQuite a number of camps are going out of state for this summer and renting out camps the have decided not to open, for example Agudah is opening in New Hampshire, Krasna is opening in PA., Bobov is opening in Ma. Gan Yisroel is expanding in the out of state locations.
June 12, 2020 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1871438commonsaychelParticipantNow is official , no camp in NYS account
commonsaychelParticipantDear N0M,
The total number of new cases in NYS this WEEK and that is what I am talking about is 3108.
Make a note to yourself that after you leave yeshiva not to become a CPA, numbers is not your thingcommonsaychelParticipant@Charlie Hall, I look at Trumps Kitchen Cabinet and at Bidens advisors and its a no brainer, its who you surround yourself with and Biden people are all J Street types
June 12, 2020 11:53 am at 11:53 am in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1871108commonsaychelParticipant@lowerTution, wow Rabbi Dr. Glatt just realized that 99% of all people tested this week in NYS were negative, I think YI of Woodmere should permanently move to be a virtual synagogue it much safer that way, no car crashes on the way to shul, No alcohol deaths from the kiddish club, no trips and falls on the premises by the elderly.
grow upJune 12, 2020 11:52 am at 11:52 am in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1871103commonsaychelParticipant@chicken little a/k/a koton hatorah, Your poor attempt at juvenile humor does not dignify a response
commonsaychelParticipantThis weeks NYS test numbers are less then 1% tested positive and that the community at large, not just frum
June 11, 2020 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1870734commonsaychelParticipant@ Abba, ALL SHULS in Monsey are now fully open, some are enforcing masks and social distance most are not, and three weeks like this and no spikes, sorry to all Chicken Littles
June 11, 2020 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm in reply to: The “New Normal” for Shul During the Yamim Noraim #1870415commonsaychelParticipant@ Abba S, my neighbor stayed inside and had no contact with anyone and guess what? they had antibodies, I never got sick and had antibody count off the charts, go figure.
I think this whole discussion is moot because about 80% of the shuls are running full force and by the time Yomim Tovim roll along it will be a distant memory, with possible exceptions of one or two shuls in Riverdale and WoodmerecommonsaychelParticipant@milhouse what part of town are you in?
PS. Amain to you last paragraphcommonsaychelParticipant@milhouse, what part of the country are you in?
commonsaychelParticipant@n0m, your right, beating up a 70 year old rosh hakollel is the new normal
June 8, 2020 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1869210commonsaychelParticipant@Godal You can always go to Syria they only have 7 cases per Million of population
June 8, 2020 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1869160commonsaychelParticipant@Godal My suggestion to you is to rent a bunker off the coast of New Zeeland and spend the summer there or perhaps Yemen with no case, you sure will be save.
commonsaychelParticipantHuju:
I am a visibly chasidish man [ beard yalmuka etc.] I use to work for the City of NY, one February we all took a Black History quiz on a lark, and guess what? I was the high scorer, ahead of 3 African Americans.
One of black guys [ who I thought was a bigot] said, very well that’s the way it should be white people need to know black history so I told him, Carl, here is what is the difference I study history, white, black, Asian or whatever and you just focus on black historycommonsaychelParticipant@CharlieHall, I hope fat Jerry loses big time, he is a disgrace and never supported Boro Park, way too busy kotowing to the far left.
Worse comes to worse if he loses he can get a huge from Avi WeisscommonsaychelParticipantMy role models are Booker T Washington and George Washington Carver, they had a goal of education, its a shame this goal is lost on today generation of African Americans
commonsaychelParticipantChaim Shulem, yeah its true, you probably have less 1000 Jews in either of these states, and to top it off Montana is the 4th largest state in the union, just to get from one part of the state to the other can take hours even with high speed limits that are nominally enforced. [ I have a picture I took at the rest area of a cow and the caption read “just because you see more cows then cops does not mean you cant get a ticket”]
So the shilaich focus is on Kiruv and serving the guest at Yellowstone along with the shilach at Jackson Wy.commonsaychelParticipant@Chaim Shulem, actually Boise and Bozeman both have mivkahs, miyanim there are sporadic, [mostly Chabad and limited to yomtov and occasional Shabbos] I use to come annually to Montana when I was doing business there, friendly people, very pro business environment and contrary to what you hear I had no issues there being a visible frum yid whereas I get plenty of hate in the outskirts of Monsey, if you love amazing views and outdoors this is the place.
commonsaychelParticipantCall the governor
June 4, 2020 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1867989commonsaychelParticipantRead between the line, NYS wont allow it
With camps in limbo if they will be allowed to open, NY Governor Cuimo says a decision on whether sleep away camps can open this summer in New York is yet to be made. In an interview this morning, Cuomo told Long Island News Radio that the issue is the inflammatory illness believed to be related to the cronavirus that has been affecting children, and concerns over spreading it.
Cuomo reiterated that as the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths decline, summer day camps can start to open at the end of the month. He said no decision has been made on sleepaway camps.So, he added, “Summer day camps are going to open on June 29. We’re still reviewing the situation with sleepaway camps.”
“I’m making that decision like it’s my own daughter. Today, if you asked me I would send my daughter to sleep away camp, I would not, Cuomo said.”commonsaychelParticipant@the little I know
It help the Justice system stay gainfully employed, a cop arrested him, a lawyer was retained, a Judge is hearing the case, there is a bailiff in courtcommonsaychelParticipantA Rosh Hakollel was beaten up by someone who was upset that the avrachim in kollel were not wearing masks, why am I not surprised that we have sunk to this low level
June 3, 2020 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm in reply to: If N.Y. doesn’t allow summer camps to open, what’s your plan? #1867598commonsaychelParticipantI hear some talk of opening some camps out of state but limited to 11-14 year old’s, I guess the younger ones will manage with day camps
commonsaychelParticipant@charlie Hall, There was a storekeeper on 13th Ave. who tried to hug the cop who was giving him the ticket and for some odd reason the cop was not impressed, I guess Weiss has more experience in hugging people.
PS I will try hugging the cop next time I am stoppedJune 1, 2020 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866712commonsaychelParticipant@n0m, your know what? your 1000% right, they are just fine upstanding people who are civic minded.
And now bh these fine people will be banned from utilizing the services of this and two other mosdos who joined them.
Maybe next time the “fine upstanding civic minded people” will think twice before they do their thing.June 1, 2020 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866649commonsaychelParticipantDear N0m, I have neither the time or inclination to be busy with someone who keeps repeating himself. Unlike a bocherisher mentality of being busy with saving face or beating the system in the adult world people do things based on principle.
In this case they felt it appropriate to deny any benefit of its services to someone who they felt hurt them regardless of what motivated to do that.
FYI I got an email to stop supporting a certain charity founded by a Doctor and a certain charity founded by a Rabbi who encouraged meserah, I forward the email to my contact listJune 1, 2020 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866524commonsaychelParticipant@Avi K that’s in the eyes of the beholder, other people put informers at the level of lowest of the low.
And he can use merits for find a new gamach [if one will service a snitch] or a new social hallJune 1, 2020 8:20 am at 8:20 am in reply to: Chasidus bans “informers” from using its facilities #1866361commonsaychelParticipant@ av, its just the verbiage they use in Hebrew, they know EXACTLY who made the calls:
In Israel, the Freedom of Information Law, 5758-1998, supported by the Freedom of Information Regulations, 5759-1999, controls freedom of information. It defines the bodies subject to the legislation by a set of listed categories – essentially, most public bodies – and provides for the government to publish a list of all affected bodies.
They filed FOILS and know who made the calls,
PS people are filing FOILS in the US as wellcommonsaychelParticipantNo but opening a shul or yeshiva maybe
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