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November 9, 2020 9:50 am at 9:50 am in reply to: Do American Jews care about Eretz Yisroel? #1918104commonsaychelParticipant
Any Jew who cares about Israel should be as scared as heck of the Biden Administration, read the Black Lives Matter position on Israel, and Harris marches in lockstep with BLM.
commonsaychelParticipant@gadol, just about everything in Israel is politics, from the type of kippa/hat, to the hechsher that you eat to the way you vote. a Dati Leumi will only vote for Mizachi, a Sefardi will only vote Shas, a Litvsher will only got for Degel, a Chasidisher will only vote for Agudah Etc. it is so ingrained there that a Rav really does not need make directives, they just vote because how they vote is self understood.
the endorsement of a Rav can make the difference of winning or losing for example the special election for congress after Anthony Weiner resigned.commonsaychelParticipantChanaiaL, you obviously have zero grasp of Rockland County politics. the districts I listed were random districts from across town to show you the strength of Weber’s Support. Actually there are 108 ED in the town, of that about 50% are exclusively frum so we are talking about roughly 55 districts that are only frum, of the remaining districts about 30 are half frum, mostly Airmont, Chestnut Ridge, Wesley and New Hempstead, so about 23 districts don’t have a frum presence, I suggest you go to the Rockland BOE website and look at the Town of Ramapo map and the district by district breakdown.
It would be helpful if you know what your talking about before you write your comments.
PS Lawler wiped the floor with Jaffee is district that were heavy Dem, its a loser clique to say it anti over till is over.commonsaychelParticipant@ChaninaL, Is Ellen Jaffee going to rise from the dead after the absentee voter count? How about Donald Trump in PA? Max Rose and Andrew Gounardes? at they all suddenly going to win?
I am talking facts and numbers not wishful thinking.
FYI not sure if you have the entire race numbers from Monsey so here goes a sampling:
District 20 [New Hempstead] Melnick 23 Weber 240, District 28 [Concord] Melnick 56 Weber 272, District 40 [Central Monsey] Melnick 20 Weber 376, District 60 [Airmont] Melnick 59 Weber 434
District 56 [Forshay] Melnick 69 Weber 521, District 84 [Olympia/ Hoton Bates] Melnick 20 Weber 582 District 96 [Spring Valley] Melnick 85 Weber 388
THE FRUM VOTE DOES MATTER!November 8, 2020 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm in reply to: Do American Jews care about Eretz Yisroel? #1917812commonsaychelParticipantThe greater question should be should the Americans living in Israel leave? there will be a lot more pressure on the Israeli Government during the Biden administration then pressure on the American Jews with a GOP senate in control.
commonsaychelParticipant@huju The frum vote was instrumental in throwing out a 14 year incumbent left wing assemblywoman and flipping a state senate district red in Rockland county, the frum vote was instrumental in flipping the 11 Congressional district and the 20 State senate district red in Brooklyn and Staten Island, so the frum vote mattered on the down ballot.
BTW the frum vote went heavy for Trump in Miami
PS on a per diem basis I am willing to bet that there were far more Anti Semites supporting Biden compared to Trump. Read BLM stand on Israel.commonsaychelParticipant@Charlie Hall, Riverdale is only about 1/3 orthodox, remainder being left of center so its hardly indicative of the MO thinking.
I did check Frum area of Far Rockaway and Trump beat Biden 2,3,4, to 1 depending of the district, Trump beat Biden 4 to 1 in Belle Harbor,
Trump beat Bden 4 to 1 in the frum districts of KGH, Kew Gardens and Forest Hills
These votes are much more reflective of the thinking of the MO community then an area where they only account for a third of the vote,commonsaychelParticipant@godalhatorah, I checked the 2016 results and in New Square 130 people broke ranks with the leadership and voted for Trump over Hillary and in Kiras Yoel the vote was 50/50 inspite of the fact that the leadership supported Hillary.
Just wondering if you have such accolades for those “independent minded voters” of 2016commonsaychelParticipantFrankly I would not hold my breath, Bernie AOC and company will dictate his foreign policy.
commonsaychelParticipant@Godalhatorah, Ok lets take the rest of the Greater Monsey Area, Wesley Hills, New Hempstead, Pomona, Chestnut Ridge, Airmont, these are populated by MO, Yeshivish and independent minded chasidim, Trump won those areas by 3,4,5 to 1.
How about his victory in Flatbush?
You love to quote Chazal, how about this quote acharay rabim lhotoscommonsaychelParticipant@Bored Guy, the entire Lakewood Township population is 106,352 of that 35% of the population is under the age of 18 making the the 18 plus population 69127. Factor in about 4000 non citizens being in the total eligible voter to about 65,000. Actual number of registered voters in Lakewood 48537 and that including ALL residents Jewish and not Jewish
commonsaychelParticipant@Gadolhatorah, for years we were captive to the Democaric machine, BH we finally broke the chains to the DEMS
commonsaychelParticipantHashem sent the refuah before the makkah, a net change of one senator and both new Dem senators are moderates, at least 15 seats will flip red forcing Pelosi to compromise.
commonsaychelParticipant@Silent Moshe, Governor Cuomo also knows that the Frum vote in Rockland unseated an 14 year Democratic Incumbent who gave nothing but grief to the frum in addition to flipping the State Senate seat red. The frum area in Staten Island also flipped an assembly district red.
@Coffee addict, the vote breakdown is given by assembly district, since Rosenthal’s district does not have a heavy cluster of frum in one area its hard to pinpoint the Queens vote, I also tried to get a breakdown of the five town vote and was unable to.commonsaychelParticipant@Catch Yourself, sorry you were awarded the Chicken Little title for your constant complaining that the shuls should not open
commonsaychelParticipantWell it looks like it happened, I looked at the results in the frum areas of Brooklyn, Rockland, Orange, Sullivan, Nassau counties NY and Ocean County NJ and i saw a HUGE straight GOP line vote
commonsaychelParticipantNJ 3 Kim relected
NY 13 Rose Defeated
State Senate 22 Bruno elected
State Senate 38 Weber elected
Assembly 97 Lawler Elected
so 4 of the five races the GOP flipped the seatNovember 3, 2020 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1916480commonsaychelParticipant@yytz Lets see, who has more of a following the 6 undersigned Rabbis or Rabbi Lichenstein and Rabbi Genack, not even close, my guess is that Rabbi Druckman and Rabbi Lior each have 10 times the followers of Lichenstein and Genack.
PS NPR just did a write up on the voters in IsraelcommonsaychelParticipant@ulm I am asking about those races in particular because they are toss ups and how the frum vote plays out can make the difference
commonsaychelParticipant@johnklets my rebbe in cheder use to do that all the time. I think he enjoyed it, but then again they were less selective who they took.
commonsaychelParticipantThere is a huge push to vote a straight GOP line in Rockland County to send a message to the NY Democracts that we are very angry.
November 2, 2020 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1916210commonsaychelParticipantso long as its postmarked by election day it will count
November 2, 2020 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1916140commonsaychelParticipant@slimshim, copy and paste of exact same thing in 3 separate topic
commonsaychelParticipantExact same post 3 separate topics
November 2, 2020 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1916136commonsaychelParticipant@Slimshim, how exact same post in 3 different topic, a all new record
November 2, 2020 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1916062commonsaychelParticipant@thefrumguy, because its individuals making the endorsement not the organization, the African American churches do that all the time
commonsaychelParticipant@CT Rebbe, Florida is a swing state and has a significant Frum population
November 2, 2020 11:59 am at 11:59 am in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1916013commonsaychelParticipant@Takahmamash, Rabbis Fendel and Shapria are both US citizens and there is a large number of dual nationals in Israel who they are moreh derch on, including from a lot of swing states such as PA, FL, GA, AZ, MI and WI, so this is not insignificant
November 2, 2020 7:14 am at 7:14 am in reply to: Daati Leumi/RZ Rabbonim call on public to vote for Donald Trump #1915919commonsaychelParticipantWow, no response from the MO readers?
November 1, 2020 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1915798commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, I no longer read anything you say from a torah prospective, anyone who can justify what Bill Clinton did has ZERO credibility to say anything from a torah point of view.
November 1, 2020 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1915782commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, do us all a favor and cease quoting torah, anyone who can defend Bill Clinton actions in the White House is not worthy of discussing dvar torah with.
November 1, 2020 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1915679commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, the GNP grew in 2017,18 and 19 much more then in Bill Clintons days. As far as the Jews he was much better the Clinton ever was.
November 1, 2020 8:14 am at 8:14 am in reply to: character vs policy Which is more important? #1915556commonsaychelParticipantIf Character is what matters, you could not get lower the Bill Clinton who turned the White House into a harem, yet I will bet people like Reb Eliezar, Godalhatorah, Charlie Hall Etc. voted for Clinton
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, there has not been a President with dignity since Ronald Regan, they are mere mortals with all that it entails, we are not electing a cohen godal
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, so Clinton got bad press and Trump had friendly press? ROFL
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E,
What do the following names have in common?
Juanita Brodderick
Leslie Millweee
Paula Jones
Kathleen Wiley
Monica LewinskycommonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, oh I get it, driving off a bridge while drunk with a girl while married is 100% ok.
commonsaychelParticipantQuite a number of Jews supported Ted Kennedy who had zero morals, please explain that
commonsaychelParticipant@slimshim, the reason I mentioned GW Bush drinking problem is to illustrate that presidents are mere mortals with all that entails and that presidents who the frum community supported had issues at some point in life.
@Reb Eliezer, are you kidding? Whitewater and the Lewinski scandals were kept private? those were the tough ones trying to explain to the kids why the president was being impeached. BTW Grover Cleveland acknowledged paternity during the campaign.commonsaychelParticipantlets see, the prior president was a Arabist who never held a Job in his life that was not at the public trough, prior to that it was someone who had overcame a drinking problem, the prior president was a corrupt womanizer who had a affair right in the White House [Lewinsky], JFK, FDR, Warren Harding and Woodrow Wilson all had affairs while in the in the White House, Grover Cleveland had a child out wedlock.
Please these people are not Rosh Yeshivas, they are mere mortals who Hashem chose to lead this nation, I told my kids Hashem is the melech malchay hamlechom and He will decide who will win, we have to do our histadlus and vote.commonsaychelParticipant@rightwriter, yes it keeps the Mental Health Professionals gainfully employed
commonsaychelParticipant@ Rational, a Godol is someone who has a following beyond his immediate circle, for example Rav Moshe was revered by everyone from MO to Vaser Zukin, being a Rosh Yeshiva in a Hesder Yeshiva does not make you a Godol
commonsaychelParticipant@Bissel Sichel, Spoken like a true MO am haretz, a Godal btorah has the ability to analyze a situation beyond of feel good stuff like Green New Deal or MAGA.
The American public were stupid enough to vote a peanut farmer into the office and twice vote for someone who never held a none government job other being a community agitator.commonsaychelParticipantAnyone who sees my sign has to drive down my street and look at private property to see it, a far cry from a motorcade,
commonsaychelParticipant@ubiqutin, The sign is placed on my private property, can it irk some people driving by? could be, could the fact I fly an American flag irk people? could be. could it irk people that I have a brown house The fact is being done on my personal property and you need to look at my private property to notice that above.
commonsaychelParticipant@Syag, I have a Rav who I talk things over with, I listen to the Rabbonim in my city, I have a ton of respect for the work Rabbi Feldman did while he was in Atlanta, I read his book cover to cover, HOWEVER, he retired and moved out of the USA in 1991, I have an issue with ANY rav who does not reside in the US telling people how to voted regardless if they say Biden or Trump.
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, I will be sure to have my nephew who lives in Israel ask his opinion on the next Israeli election, He cant voted here so who cares
commonsaychelParticipant@ubiqutin, I own my house, I painted my house brown, planted rose bushes and have a sod lawn, are any of the above in your face to my neighbors? No its my personal taste, same with the fact I fly a flag on Memorial Day and July 4th, my personal choice on my private property. The fact that I see Biden signs in the more Liberal area does not offend me in the least.
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb E, His signing the letter when he has not lived or voted here for the last quarter century has the same relevance as Rav in NY signing a letter who to voted in Belgium elections because he lived in Brussels 25 years ago.
commonsaychelParticipant@Reb Eliezer Rabbi Emanuel Feldman made aliya like 20 years ago, Did the Rabbi of Norway or Paraguay sign the letter as well?
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