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@Avi K, There were certain gedolim and Rebbes who kept fresh clothing at the ready to greet Moshsiach, they were living in EY even if they were in Poland, Litak, Belarus or Hungary.
We must remember we can be Yerusalem, Chevron or anyplace else but until that great day comes WE ARE GOLUS!Once Sir Herbert Samuel met with Rav Y C Sonnenfeld in the 1920s, The Rav’s home, a poor hovel of a dwelling, was ten steps underground with only one small window and no proper furniture. Concerned about the very destitute state of his home, askanim wanted to move the meeting place to a neighbor’s house. Reb Yosef Chaim adamantly refused: “This officer can see exactly how I live.” The only thing he did allow was for the askanim to place a simple tablecloth on his one table.
Arriving with his entourage, the High Commissioner was led, step by step, down into Reb Yosef Chaim’s home. The High Commissioner was aghast that a leading Rabbinical authority was living this way!
Sir Herbert asked Reb Yosef Chaim how he could abide in such conditions. In answer, Rav Yosef Chaim showed him the ‘view’ from his one little window that overlooked the devastation of Har Habayis. “You see that?” the Rav asked. “That was once our Temple, G-d’s house. It is in total ruins. If G-d still has no Home and no Temple, then I don’t need a nice home, either.”BOTTOM LINE, WE ARE IN GULUS EVERYWHERE!
@AAQ “most my information usually comes from research articles or raw data that I analyze”
A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. – Author: Moliere
PS I am still waiting for you retaction
1. Troll Yeshiva
2. Catfishing Yeshiva
3. Laydikgaing Yshiva
4. Yeshiva of the Sock Puppets
5 fill in the blankI was buzy with that stuff for 14 to 16 then I gave up trying to figure stuff out
@AAQ, if you didnt cite Fauci you used one of parrots, the message was the same. If your going to use Moshe Rabbanu and Mattan Torah as an example of outdoor davening then I can use Chet Haigel as your worship of covid regs.
PS I amd still waiting for you to apologize to three morah dasaras for defaming them.@nussan
I would take my change with a mugger and my wallet over a missle and my body.
FYI we are still in golus even in Gush Ezion and Natanya@AAQ “Gadol +1. hashem even asked an elderly man to climba (small) mountain for a long Torah lecture. This week, Moshe was trying to give a dvar Torah in between some stones!”
You want to use the dor hamidar as an example, how about this? chet haaygil, execpt the golden calf the MO crowd worshiped was Dr. Fauci and his minions both frum and not frum [no pun intended].@AAQ, actualy I belong to three shuls, [Neighborhood, shabbos and weekdays] and BH none of the shuls lost members and we have reopened just after peasch of 2020.
In fact the total Covid deaths in the frum community of NY metro area in 2020 were equal to the cancer deaths.@rational, Interesting you were yelling and screaming that shuls were open and what a chutzpa, maybe the people who kept the shuls open had a longer term vision then you did.
Why should the outdoor minyanim close? its work out fine till now and its easier for a lot of people.Average Israeli Wage is $11,990 NIS that converts to $3698 USD, not a living wage for your average large family. Don’t compare this to the Miraglim for one I am not complainingjust stating a fact, two no one is forced to live there. Yes Israel is renown for Chesed and the USA is known for Tzedoka
When people do things over a extended period of time people get use it, like biking during the transit stike, working remote etc. The MO rabbis were so gung ho about closing everything over a very long period of time they should have thought about the long term picture, the yeshivish and chasidish shuls have had almost 100% full minyanim since last shevous
its near impossible to make it on Israeli wages, not to mention everything in Israel including getting a job a raise etc. is done with protectisia and everything in Israel is politics, you hardly ever see a Dati leumi working alongside of a Charedi, whereas its the norm in the USA
@AAQ “As long as you doing out of the right reasons – prudence re:Covid (*), I don’t see a problem at all”. Who are we to judge what is a good reason or a bad reason, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So therefore the drop in memeber is a self created problem by the MO shuls its a non issue at the shuls the never closed or closed briefly,
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In a article in this weeks Ami Rabbi Moshe Taub of Young Israel of Holliswood bemoaned the fact that 30-40% of the shul members have not returned to the shul choosing instead to stay the breakway minyanim and davening byichidus.
I guess they didnt realize that by doing a long term closure people would voted with the feet.My grandparents all came here to excape anti semitism in Poland, Fathers parents came post WWII after surviving the holocaust, Mothers Mothers parents came in the 1920s after surviving a progrom, Mother Fathers family came in the 1930s after Poland banned shechita
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@CTLawyer, I am 100 % galitzanyah my internal body clock causes me to have great joy when I see Petcha in the deli or the coin counter in the bank
Voting should be viewed as a sacred trust, and should be made harder not easier
@N0mesorah “Those communities that put a bigger emphasis on keeping the same ritualistic customs throughout the generations, will appear to be in steeper decline than those communities that value it less.”
Actualy the opposite is true, the communities who emphisize minhagim are the strongest, for example upsherin, chasidisher livish etc. are alive and well, whereas YI and others with no mesorah are slowly fading away@yserbius Minhag Chasam Sofer is Oberland, Minhag haGra is Lita
@ Reb E exactly my point, you are relegated to the ladies section and say the payit under your breath, not a sign of a very thriving khilla.
@ Laymasheh 3/4 of Vien and 3/4 of Nitra davens nusach sefard and the rav wears a stramil in both@Reb E, the only difference in the current Debrictener mihagim and mainsteam chasidus is the yotzros [ they dont bruk, they wear chasidisher livish etc.] the typical chasam sofer with his crack hit short jacket and gartel and small beard is history and I for one think its a shame
@UJM, “Whereas the Oberlanders have more or less become Chasidish.”
Actual they stopped existing under the old crowd, please name one Oberlandisher Khilla that has not gone chasidish.@AAQ, IDK, the whole gist of this thread is the yikkish way of life are slowing disappearing.
Reb E, interesting most of the Oberlander khillos changed since WWII, Vien now davens sefard and rebbeh feers tish unheard of in the days of Rav Y Steif, Sopron had a yikkisher rav and tzelem as well.
Mattesdorf [chasan sofer] was one of the shivah khillos and now is a chasidus complete with a Rebbah, same is true Erloh and Droger@UJM. a socialy distant mask wearing kiddush with a salad is at a MO shul
Reb E, Most oberlandisher khillos have vanished in the past years
Sen. Ted Cruz also visited Israel Sunday and posted images of a bombed-out home following Israel’s 11-day war with Hamas.
‘Heartbreaking,’ Cruz wrote, in a comment he attached to a picture of the bombed out vestiges of a home where he said the caregiver to an elderly woman was killed by a Hamas rocket attack.
‘Countless times, I’ve seen a Mezuzah hanging on a door frame. This is the first time I’ve seen one on a home bombed by terrorists. A Hamas rocket killed the caretaker of the elderly lady who lived here in Ashkelon, in southern Israel. This is all that remains,’ Cruz wrote.
‘Here’s her walker,’ Cruz wrote in a subsequent post, which showed a walker and a fan atop a pile of rubble.
Give me friends like Cruz any day of the week.
@ Reb, E I want the truth, If Jared Kushner would have said that last year what would have your reaction be?
The fact is that quite a number of misorahs have either dwindled or morph [ and in my opinion its sad]
Beside the yekkish minhagim such as wimple etc that are slowing stopping, the majority of MO shuls are turning right or slowing petering out.
Adas Yerim Vien has morph from Rav Yonoson Steif to Huthouser Rav to the present Rav, a huge gulf@yesrbius123, we took chockas hagoy from whatever land we lived in, the pinklishkiet and officialdom from the German, the elaborate cooking from Hungary, the stingness from the Poles, the hard drinking from the Russians, the emounas peshuta in the North African and the Middle East.
For example at KAJ they circle the bemah once during each hakafa on simchas torah while hakafos in Karlin or Bobov can take hours, and at a kiddiush in a yekkisher place they will drink a revish of wine and a Chabad kiddush mashkeh flows freelyIntersting this topic got two newbies, welcome to CR
Its more then just wearing of a tallis, I asked a Yikkish guy in his mid 20 when he is going to make a wimple so he said he is not, there are no yekkish shuls near him and he wont make one, this is in Monsey were there is 2 yekkish shuls and one is basicly changing to yeshivish because no one want to keep up with minhagim and the old members are dwindling, even in the other one there are hardly any young memebers
Reb E, spoken like a true ingerisher, its bheimishkite like that caused the nazis to kill so many to be 1944.
tzedek, tzedek tirdof and tikkun haolam are the most overuse words by the PC crowd, how about the rest of the torah
@n0mesorah
“I think 1980 was a much closer election then people remember”Reagan won the election by a landslide, taking 489 electoral votes and Carter getting 49. Reagan received the highest number of electoral votes ever won by a non-incumbent presidential candidate.
In fact Carter conceded at 10PM EST with the results being so obvious, looks like you were not born yet in 1980 otherwise you would have remembered@AAQ, because she was a Aushwitz survivor and does not have much in the way of sin
Interestingly enough Ronald Reagan Secy. of Tresuary was Donald Regan
My daughter when she was eight asked me if my wife Grandmother is a Ballest Teshuva, I laughed and said no, why do you think so? she said that she calls my son der hesky and who elses besides a BT cant say a ches.
Another lame attempt of an uneducated bucher to troll
I’ll assume you aren’t referring to spelling mistakes
“Say ‘Free, Free Palestine’ and nothing else,” says “comedian” who blasts those fighting anti-Semitism and terrorism.
Amer Zahr, a former campaign surrogate for pro-Palestinian Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders and an ally to anti-Semitic Rep. Rashida Tlaib, told people on social media to “stop condemning anti-Semitism.”
“Say ‘Free, Free Palestine’ and nothing else,” says Zahr, a “comedian” who blasts those fighting anti-Semitism and terrorism, telling them, “Just stop it!”
@madeadliyah, will you 100% and lets start calling out the Jewish elected offiicals who gave a tepid defense of Israel or np defense at all