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Actually writing does appeal to me but how do you get people to read what you write?

Post it on the Coffee Room, or send it to the FJJ

(Flatbush Jewish Journal), who dedicate a good

few pages in the back to letters.

As some may have noticed, I’ve taken an interest in board

and card games (etc.) – they’re not just for kids.

(I’m actually planning on starting two threads about them.)

That would be a good answer on an Israeli website…

The answer is probably in one or all of the following threads.

Started less than 6 years ago:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-does-the-word-yishivish-mean

Started less than 5 years ago:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/lets-define-terms-what-is-yeshivish-mo-etc

Started less than 4 years ago:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-does-yeshivish-mean

Started less than 2 years ago:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/what-does-it-mean-to-be-yeshivish

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/define-yeshivish

The Sefer is a thin book that was placed in many Shul throughout the country about what each type of music listened to causes in a person physically and how it affects his neshama and ruchnius

Yes, that’s the one that I wrote I hoped it wasn’t, and

that’s not exactly what it’s about, which is too bad,

because that would probably have been more interesting

(assuming a reliable source of such information exists).

(Mods, if you feel the need to reject this post,

can you just edit out the part under the line?)

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It’s more like the following ideas, in order:

Music can have a bad influence on you.

The current state of modern society is due to its music.

Many have said that rock and roll has a bad influence.

Modern Jewish music is rock and roll.

Rock and roll (and therefore modern Jewish music) is African music.

Rock and roll has negative physical effects on the body.

Modern Jewish music is bad for frum society.

Action must be taken to combat modern Jewish music.

Whether there is any reason these ideas should be believed

is a question that the book does not have a good answer for.

Sometimes this is evident from the book itself,

and sometimes additional information is necessary.

I am not sure if you are trying to insinuate that i am purposely trying to force in inappropriate threads or if you have a more innocuous meaning

I was trying to get you to understand that I knew (or at least thought

I knew) what your rejected post had been. And if it’s what I think

it is, I think the mods would object to any parody of what it parodies.

He had no rejected post. I have no idea, then or now, what he is referring to.

Hashem is always with us even when we don’t merit His Presence

Hashem is everywhere, but this does not mean that the Shechinah is.

I believe the Shechinah could be here.

But “here” (the CR) is not an actual location.

(I would’ve mentioned this at the beginning if the thread’s

content hadn’t been entirely disconnected from the title.)

When we are not arguing and showing sinas chinam to each other, but discussing things intelligently and respectfully, with Divrei Torah included and k’vod habrios, I believe the Shechinah could be here.

Even if we were doing that in real life, I don’t think

we’d qualify for the presence of the Shechinah (except

perhaps during the divrei Torah).

Which sefer are you referring to, Mashiach Agent?

(Through Music and Song? Ki D’var Hashem Bozo (I hope not)?)

Welcome back, sbeph!

While that may be helpful (as previously asked, where did

you read this?), it is certainly not a complete methodology.

If you’re interested in the subject, here are some mar’ei mekomos .

(Disclaimer: I am not using any of this in my own life at the moment.)

Rav Avigdor Miller suggested auto-suggestion –

saying “I love you, Hashem,” at least once a day.

The Chovos haLevavos has a section dedicated to this subject.

The Rambam talks about this in Hilchos Yesodei haTorah, chapter 2.

You can take a look at Mesilas Yeshorim, chapter 21 –

the part I’m referring to is close to the beginning.

The Medrash says on the first pasuk of the first paragraph of Shema

that we would not know how we are to love Hashem – we are then told

“V’hayu had’vorim ha’eileh, etc.”

The following is from Rav Aharon Feldman’s The River, the Kettle, and the

Bird, chapter 11, which is shorter than the subsequent instructive chapters.

(While this is not specifically about love of Hashem, the Mesilas Yeshorim

writes in chapter 18 that it too is in the general category of love.)

According to the Gra (Vilna Gaon), there are 4 basic causes of love.

1 – We love someone who gives us physical pleasure.

2 – We love someone who helps us accomplish our goals.

3 – We love someone in whom we recognize noble qualities of character.

4 – We love someone for no reason other than that we sense that they love us.

However, there are conditions which must be fulfilled for these to work.

A – We must be capable of gratitude (for 1 and 2).

B – We must have goals (for 2).

C – We must not be so occupied with ourselves that we

do not recognize the good qualities of others (for 3).

D – We must be able to believe that someone else loves us (for 4).

(See further inside.)

Mods, can I ask you to edit the title

of that speech out of my earlier post?

As for the video being on YouTube, TorahAnytime is an independent

website, not a YouTube account. I had assumed the account with the speech belonged to TorahAnytime, but it seems likely that it is not. The point still stands, because the account is mostly a repository for Torah lectures – the speech wasn’t put up in a negative context.

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I think I’m looking for a different shiur where R’ Wallerstein does this all-out “rap”

(I wondered, seeing as this imitation was just a second or two long.)

If you do come across the one you were looking for originally,

please let me know – I’m curious.

I do know with certainty that the stuff that blasts out of cars driving down my street from time to time cannot be compared even to old rock music.

That being what forms many people’s impression of non-Jewish music

is really annoying. The music listened to by people who listen to music

at a volume that probably damages their hearing over time, and who

are rude enough to blast their music like that, is obviously not going

to be the most tasteful stuff around (although popular music taste

in general is pretty bad – a really good piece of music hitting #1 on

the standard charts would almost be a surprise at this point).

But, given that there are strong grounds on which to argue that

we shouldn’t be listening to non-Jewish music, it’s hard to really

consider it a bad thing…

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I once heard that you can determine a song’s

status by how one shakes to the beat.

Can uniform response to rhythm in humans be assumed?

(Won’t some of us respond differently than others?)

FYI Bas Kol is not Rap, its more a pop music

Was there a post about this “Bas Kol” that was deleted?

You’re welcome. I look forward to 2 years of trying to find a frum lawyer in a local office in a small town in Connecticut. 🙂 (Just kidding!)

(That’s mostly not what happens in the Coffee Room.)

The question is, is it different from Jews learning

Torah separately? The Shechinah is associated with

certain numbers of Jews coming together, which leads

me to think that a physical concentration of Jews is

needed, and when they are learning Torah, fewer Jews

are needed than if they were not.

Shir haShirim was my first thought.

I think my source said that it’s best to know Rashi’s commentary.

I can see how the poor man’s words were taken so out of context.

I don’t think context would fix some of what

some people don’t like about that speech.

With regards to your quote of my post, I believe you

left out the phrase “I believe” before I made that statement.

True. Care to correct the post, mods?

even if your audience likes what you say, not everyone will and those people can put the video on youtube making you look like a fool

True, but in this case, the video was put up by TorahAnytime.

? You wrote above – I don’t see it on TorahAnytime.

As for Sholom Ber, you’re spoiling it for people! More spoiling follows:

In Kivi and Tuki Vol. 4, you find out that he actually didn’t drown!

(Yeah, it contradicts the “never seen again” part. Too bad!)

And, I’ll take “The Little Kinderlach” over “Kars 4 Kids” any day.

Is there some connection between these? “Kars 4 Kids” is an

Oorah commercial jingle that was created much more recently.

…when frum bands parody modern pop songs

by folks like edited and edited

And put the names of the original artists in the notes, too!

Why should those names be brought into Jewish houses?

In comparison to the “oldie” songs Country Yossi and

have little to no artistic merit.

Eh. That’s arguable in some instances.

…religious people who may not otherwise have heard these

junk starts playing.

I don’t know if “You shouldn’t copy non-Jewish music because

people will get used to the sound of it, and then they won’t be

immediately sonically repelled by actual non-Jewish music”

is a valid complaint, or whether the underlying idea is correct.

There may be an inyan that on principle, our music

should be different from theirs, to show that we’re separate.

I plan on reading a couple of pages off the Internet

about Jewish views on music in the near future.

“im a businessman dealing with thousands of people.”

And here I thought you were a psychologist.

It might help people help you to say how yeshivish you are or aren’t.

What RebYidd23 meant is that by putting the symbol in his post

(known on the CR as “backtick,” and found next to the 1 key)

on either side of text, any HTML instructions in the text will be

ignored. The same effect can also be done with <code>, but

there’s no reason to type it out when you can use backticks.

The actual name of the symbol is “grave accent.”

I’ve mentioned in the past that I don’t think some of

what goes on in the news comments would fly in the CR.

Welcome back, YesOrNo.

I think he’s the only one on both “Xed usernames” lists.

Popa-flavored ice cream.

Ahem. (If you know what I mean, then you know.)

It’s “free rein.” The term comes from letting go of

the reins of a horse, letting it go where it wants.

“G D Em C is the same as C G Am F (I V vi IV).”

I suspected as much (that at least one of those was the 4 chords again.)

(If anyone wants that sentence explained, I can try to do it, but I’m not going to make the effort to unless someone requests it.)

“Then there are all those whose pages don’t show any of their posts.”

I think the explanation for those profiles is that those people have

never posted on the Coffee Room, only in the YWN news comments.

“I can get you back on your account”

But, for whatever reason, that didn’t happen.