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(your deleted thread – You noticed, eh?)
You would probably know, then, that I wouldn’t be likely to realize it…
(I’m not meant to respond to that post about MA, correct?)
are YOU willing to risk your childrens frumkeit & torah just so you could liten to this jazz music copied from a goyish singer?
(A. It’s just “jazz.”
B. Have you ever heard any actual jazz?)
C. Please find me a sefer by an acknowledged halachic authority
or spiritual leader that says that there is a problem with jazz,
or with using a tune composed by a non-Jew. Until then, I reserve
the right to not consider them a threat to anyone’s Yiddishkeit.
D. The question was to be understood as “Just how serious are you about this?”
when your children C”V become KAR or OTD.
What on Earth does “KAR” stand for?
There is no indication on your part that you are wanting a response or validation
I assume that if anyone wants to respond,
they will do so without having been asked
Is that not clear? (Are you trying to say that I’m not a
very good conversationalist? I’ll readily admit to that…)
MA could be using the Internet not at his home.
Don’t talk on your Verizon line as you drive your jappy to yeshivah.
That’s all I have to say about this.
(I don’t know if you saw the first or second version of my last post…)
there is no indication on your part that you are wanting a
response or validation, or that there would even be one.
I just assume that if anyone disagrees or wants to clarify or
respond in any other way, they will do so without having been asked.
This is, after all, a message board. If I was a mod and I closed
threads after posting in them, or if I said things on the phone
and then hung up, that would have been a reasonable statement.
Sometimes, it’s because people have an agenda and are just
waiting for a somewhat relevant opening to post it.
(I did not mean that I could have answered the question without
you being aware of it, I meant that you could be unaware that
a song you listen to took its tune from a non-Jewish song.
You would not need to be stupid not to know it.)
Do you ever wonder if you are right,
or are you just comfortable knowing you could be right?
Let’s rephrase that: Being aware that you could be wrong,
do you wonder if you’re actually wrong, or is it enough
for you that you already have an opinion?
I think that’s a silly question.
(Perhaps the question was meant to be whether I
am aware of the possibility of my being wrong.
I think that’s a silly question as well.)
(I almost missed the link. I thought of posting this there, but
I decided that it fit in better here, and I thought of posting
that link, but I decided there was no reason to.)
How do you know he doesn’t know anyone who owns a cow?
(Does “Bubby I Love You” imply anything it doesn’t mean to?)
(You could be unaware of it…)
You answered a question I didn’t ask,
and I’m not answering a question you did ask,
so we’re about even. (I think it’s a silly question.)
In this case, I said “probably,” so being right is a matter of
whether it’s a reasonable assumption, not whether you actually
listen to music he doesn’t approve of, so I’m not going to ask if
you listen to any songs which use the tune from a non-Jewish song,
which is something he definitely does not approve of.
You are presumably allowed to milk a cow for its owner,
which is the context the song is about doing things in.
(The song also implies that milking a cow is a melochoh.
I doubt that’s true, although animals are muktzeh.)
The music he approves of is “nice & calm beautiful music,” and most
people don’t limit their listening to songs under a certain speed,
so there you go.
Edit: Well, this was a useless post.
Music is very personal tastes, what one person thinks is noise, others like and what one person might thinks as calm and nice, others think as boring and puts one to sleep
I like calm, beautiful music and fast excited music depending on my mood. Both have their place.
You guys don’t seem to understand him. He’s saying
that some music is morally objectionable, regardless
of whether you or anyone else finds it enjoyable.
Edit: I wrote that before seeing the previous post.
(“Rocken” is not a word in the English language.)
when you say “music that you don’t approve of” instead
of saying inappropriate music is that your way of…?
It’s my way of saying that what he is talking
about is not objectively “inappropriate music.”
Take that as you will, keeping in mind that you
probably listen to music he doesn’t approve of.
I think RebYidd23 should have a subtitle that warns newbies
not to take his posts too seriously (like Popa’s sort of does).
(Kosher is a serious marketing point, in case anyone doesn’t know.)
interesting midrash. I wonder though about the cases where obesity actually leads to bad health problems, heart attacks, etc. In those instances, it would seem to me that a person does have bechirah.
Tzinim u’pachim. (Also, R’ Naftali Ropshitzer used to say that he
didn’t see why people had to go so far in fulfilling Hashem’s
decree that they be foolish…)
On the other hand, notice the word “????”. That could change the whole message of the medrash to mean that HaShem will help a person overcome just about any of those traits.
The statement is “that matter (yir’as shomayim) is given into the hands of man alone (????).” Had the previous matters been stated to be under Hashem’s control, and then something was said to be in His control ????, you could infer that humans could possibly mix into the others. As it stands, I don’t see this message of yours anywhere.
Besides, being short or ugly is not something people were
meant to overcome (although they have been trying recently).
But, ultimately one’s reputation is earned, not divinely granted.
Reputation isn’t mentioned at all in that quotation.
(I had assumed you’d been helped with in the first 25 minutes
and edited your post to say “thank you.”) Try a secular phone book?
Their history in 1980s had many similarities to Jewish history in 1940s.
How very logical.
(One thing Jewish musicians have so far not copied from
non-Jewish musicians is non-indicative song titles.)
Seeing as he liked Rabbi Luft’s booklet,
he’d probably recommend Rabbi Luft’s CD.
Mashiach Agent:
Do you really think that if a Jewish child receives a good chinuch
from parents they have a good relationship with, except that the
Jewish music that you don’t approve of is played in their home,
that child is more likely to develop bad middos and/or do aveiros
than a child who grows up under the same circumstances, but
without the music that you don’t approve of?
The Shechina is not something tangible,
so it doesn’t need a tangible location to be.
Physical locations are by definition tangible.
We are talking about a metaphysical phenomenon
that nevertheless is physically locatable.
“I will not milk a cow” from a song you probably know.
Actually, you must milk your cows on Shabbos,
because they will suffer if you don’t.
(I think there are halachos about what you
are or aren’t allowed to do with such milk.)
this is the other story
Have you heard the new thing, or is that an assumption?
(Also, if it’s true, would you call it a sequel?
That’s the problem with meta-narratives…)
I recently heard someone use the phrase
“lose the plot” and thought of this thread.
Comlink X, it was in response to his second post, Why do you care about chinuch?
Oops. 🙂
t must be realized that the purpose of food is health and nourishment, and to teach a child otherwise is wrong.
Here’s a little story about R’ Matisyohu Salomon, who we
can probably all agree knows a thing or two about chinuch.
A man brought a child along on a visit to R’ Matisyohu.
During the visit, he (or his Rebbetzin – I don’t remember,
it doesn’t matter) offered the visitor’s child a lollipop.
R’ Matisyohu urged the child (in Yiddish) to “Take the red one,
the red one is good.” When the visitor asked about Eisov having
requested “the red” food, he responded along the lines of (in Yiddish) “Children like the red – Eisav remained a child.”
(I don’t remember who I heard the story from.)
My little sister calls them “garlic knotsies.” (No, she doesn’t.)
I guess you’ll have to play detective too.
the insinuation that i was trying to slip something by
That wasn’t my intention at all! As I mentioned, I was
just trying to hint that I knew what the other thing was
(though the connection between the two isn’t very strong).
(It’s occurred to me that you could be right about it
being because of copyright. Only the mods would know.
I don’t think crediting gives permission to use except
in ways categorized as “fair use,” though.)
It’s not a sequel, it’s just made by the same people.
(I just saw the poster tonight too.)
(Anyone who’s really interested can start playing detective.)
Yes.
Nothing. People will just have to live without it. Worse has happened. 🙂
(By now, I could’ve written “As some people may have noticed.”)
That last one, I think, for humorous effect only.
I’m saying that the thing you tried to post was probably considered
an issue by the mods because it uses a certain style for humor,
which the mods feel is disrespectful to the original.
Don’t forget the Golden Crown also i think by abie rottenberg. You can hear him singing the songs.
I think Baruch Levine did the singing on that album.
Country Yossi is also underrated for the work he did with Ohr Chodosh ( remember “Eileh Borechev?”) not just as a song parodist ( forgive me oh Comlink-X, grammarian of the CR, if that is not a real word)
I found out somewhat recently that at least
one of Ohr Chodosh’s songs was a parody as well.
(It’s a real word. Thanks for the title, though
I doubt I’d win a grammar fight with haifagirl.) 🙂
The mods let something through without realizing, and that’s how I know.
(I actually told them about it, but they apparently didn’t care.)
I’m not a mod. I have more to say, but I don’t know if it will go through.
PBA: are you OTD or just on a D tour?
He’s just not serious (except when he’s talking about halocho).