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@litvishemisnaged
What do you expect us to do? Extol and sing praise to your gedolim with every fiber of our being?
Yes, we begin our comments with “not only did he not hate chabad” because most gedolim and even other Rebbeim opposed Chabad, so the fact that he did not hate chabad is something worthy of mention. You are seriously looking for things to pick on by surfing the web for some nasty comment against litvishers.
Wouldn’t be surprised if you google “Rav Shach ym”s and “chabad is the best” or something like that so you could use it as proof that chabad puts down others in order to make themselves look superior. Stop looking for things to fuss over…@doer
As Lubavitcher chassidim we follow our rebbe’s directives and teachings; he told us that the holocaust was not a punishment or some way to tell the yidden that we need to do teshuvah.Litvishe misnaged,
It’s incredible though, how successful you are at stirring up arguments on every thread that chabadshlucha starts or participates in. Can’t you just leave us lubavitchers alone?@litvishemisnaged
You are so stuck in your own bubble, that you take the greatest offense at the smallest stupid comment written by some bored Lubavitcher. Get out there and educate yourself instead instead of sitting by your device, shooting out venemous comments about Chabad.
Out of 20+ comments regarding the recent departure of harav shteinman zt”l, there was not one negative comment. All of them were all praising him for his great attributes and improvements that he made in this world. So stop accusing us of disrespecting your gedolim,
@neville Chaim Berlin
Thank you for standing up for the truth and counter attacking
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Attacking someone for attacking someone is not a strategy
@litvishechossid
Gee, you never stop; it’s not even funny…
You say that you choose to ignore my comment… and then you go on to do just the opposite!
You have no good attack to bring up about gog umagog and lubavitch so instead you bring up old arguments such as the menorah (which you’ll probably still be talking about by Pesach). By the way, I spoke to a few friends who were in crown heights for Chanukah and they all told me that the menorah in 770 was straight, so either you’re just trying to spread false propaganda or you didn’t notice the second menorah which was straight and the curved one was simply for those who have the Minhag of having curved.About that incident about the gadol hador comment, you shouldn’t really judge without having seen the comment first. Besides, if I quoted all the times that mods had to step in to warn you, I would be fast asleep by the 18th comment.
And about the word limit frustration… okay let’s help you understand step by step. It may just seem that some comments are too long but really they’re not and they just look too long because there are 2 spaces between each paragraph (a well know writing tactic that you clearly haven’t picked up on yet). In addition to simply looking nicer it also makes it easier to read. If you ever need to check if your comment is passed the word limit then you can copy and paste it onto Word to see how many words it is. Your welcome.
@litvishechossid
Here you go again, trying to start another machlokes… pls stop cuz no one enjoys it.A father wrote into the chazon ish zt”l that his bochur was in shidduchim and he was worried that the girl wouldn’t like his beard…
The chazon ish responded “If the young lady is bothered by the fact that your son wears a beard, then that is a sign that she is not the right match for your bochur”Okay, litvishe chossid we got the point: you started this thread as a subtle way to launch a surprise attack on Chabad under the mods’ noses (or was it?)
why wasn’t this topic put under the category of “rants” (because that’s all it’s turned into) ?@mods
Not only have you not allowed me to present my argument , but then you framed me to make as if i tried berating the gadol hador. Even my subsequent comment, explaining how the previous one wasn’t a beratement and the person i was referring to is not the gadol hador, was not posted.Following is the Daas Torah of Maran HaGaon Rav Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman zt’l Regarding GROWING A BEARD
Emulate Other Bochurim or Disregard Them?
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Maran HaRav Shteinman was recently asked by a number of yeshiva bochurim: “The rest of the bochurim in my yeshiva do not grow their beards. Should I follow their example or not?”To each of them he replied that they should disregard their colleagues’ conduct.
• To one bochur he quoted the Mishna in Ediyos (5:6): “Better to be called a shoteh your entire life than to be a rasha even once.”
• To another he responded even more sharply: “If everyone around you is eating chazir, is that a reason for you to eat it as well?!”
• To a third he said: “No one ever lost anything from growing a beard!”Maran HaRav Shteinman was once approached by a bochur who followed the opinion of the Mechaber, that one may cut his hair between Lag Ba’Omer and Shavuos. “Most of the bochurim in my yeshiva do not cut their hair until the yemei hagbalah,” he said. “Since I follow the Mechaber’s opinion, may I shave my beard before that time?”
“Any method you use to shave your beard will be problematic,” Maran HaRav Shteinman replied. “Using an electric shaver may involve an issur de’oraysa. Even using shaving cream is not acceptable, as some say this involves the issur of lo yilbash.”
Some claim that growing a beard demonstrates arrogance, as if he thinks he is perfect.
“It is still better to grow a beard,” Maran HaRav Shteinman once commented. “This will protect a person spiritually to a certain extent.”
Maran HaRav Shteinman further remarked: “The reason it was once common for yeshiva bochurim to shave is because the issur involved was not widely known.”
פרי חיים ממרן הרב שטיינמן , שופר ארגון להפצת יהדות, צוות שופר גנזי המלך, כו תמוז תשע”ב
I tried saying something in my defense but mods did not allow comment to be posted.
Trying to publicly berate the gadol hador is not a defense.
@ReuBrew
you may be reffering to David Nessenoff,only he was a conservative rabbi; not reformRE: the shape of the menorah in 770 and around.
There can be a billion and one reasons why it was more convenient to buy a curved Menorah rather than straight.
To name a few: cheaper; was the only one left in the store; didn’t want to spend money on a menorah so they picked one up that they found lying around; there was another menorah that you didn’t notice which was straight and the curved one were to appease the people who had the minhag of having a curved one; The scatterbrained tzfatim (whom Iv’e explained are not your example of a Lubavitcher. they are a radicalized group of youth who go crazy all the time. never confuse a Tzfati with a regular Lubavitcher.) were not paying attention and they bought the wrong one etc.
I think the only one being fed propaganda here is you. Lubavitchers don’t boast about other people learning tanya or going to the Ohel as you say. We completely respect other minhagim, chasidic sects and Rebbeim outside of chabad just as it says in the Torah v’ohavta L’reiacha k’mocha.
poilishers that you see praying at the Ohel or 770, came of their own volition, whether to fundraise, or to Daven at the hailiger Rebbe’s shul. They realize and understandon their own the holiness of the Rebbe and the effect their prayers there have on them.
There was never any deal “you come Daven at our shul, we come Daven at your shul”
they chose to come there and good for them. but why do we have to go and travel to the belzer rebbe’s shul just because they came to us?think about it for a moment and then get back to me.
Shishkabab, I never knew you were such a fierce chabad opposer. I mean, I knew that there are some people here that aren’t exactly fond of Chabad, but your comments completely threw me off balance.
“you are a prime example of the brainwashed propaganda spewing lubavitcher.”
Whoa, that’s vicious alright.
“I saw an article on col on a peace meeting between lubavitch and belz. Comments were so hateful “we will never forgive them” and ” when belz change their golden menorah on the aron kodesh to a chabad/rambam menorah then we will know there is peace. REALLY!!”
For the record, most comments on col are written by bored kids sitting at home looking for some interest in their lives; There are some people like that here too.
“And for the record you pointed out untucked shirts and beards which is a chabad reference to meshichistim and you tried to invalidate them as a typical chabad mindset.”
Untucked shirts and beards do not exclusively refer to meshichistim; It is a Chabad thing in general.
and not all Lubavitchers are mishichistim. (you learn something new everyday. Your welcome)I know of a reform “rabbi” who is not only not jewish, but he is BLACK. He served a sentence of over 10 years in jail
@ JOSEPH
you mean country yossi?oh yikes, i didnt realize im not meant to play after someone starts. sorry
is “Africa torch” one phrase (there is no slash separating them) ?
PIPE
Riddle: in 1968 there was no shabbos chanukah. how is that possible?
And how are we meant to know if we passed the word limit?
spend a lot of time and energy writing a long post and if it disappears it was too long
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if nothing goes right, then go left…
You guys should buy a sefer called “hadras ponim zokon” written by Moshe Weiner. It talks about the importance of keeping your beard; not even trimming it.
The Kapischnitzer Rebbe ZT”L was one of the most biggest Torah Giants before World War 2, and he won the respect of even the litvisher gedolim including the Chazon Ish ZT”L.
During the Holocaust, the Nazis ym”s forced the leaders of every community to clean the streets with a toothbrush. The idea was to humiliate them in front the Poles who would stand by and laugh, pointing at the elderly Rabbi with the long beard, scrubbing the streets with a toothbrush.
On one such occasion, the Kapischnitzer Rebbe was, naturally, chosen to receive the “honor” of cleaning the streets that day.While he was scrubbing, a Nazi commander ordered one of his soldiers to cut off the Kapischnitzer Rebbe’s beard r”l. When the soldier approached with the big scissors in his hand, the Rebbe looked up and immediately understood what was about to happen. he held up his hand and shouted angrily “rather cut of my fingers but don’t touch my beard!”
startled by the Rebbes stubbornness, the soldier steeped back and did not carry out his evil command. This story goes to show the great importance of having a beard, so much so that the Kapischnitzer Rebbe was willing to have all of his fingers cut off in order to keep his beard. One of the reasons why it is so important not to touch your beard is because it is written up in Zohar that the yud gimmel midas harachamim are in the strands of the beard. Cutting it off would be cutting off the yud gimmel midas harachamim.@daasyochid
I was actually planning on writing that, but i didn’t want another backlash like the one that happened last time…I’m surprised none of you blamed the Lubavitcher doctor that was caring for him, for his death.
There is a novel called “aleph shin” its about a nuclear attack on Israel and at the last second, moshiach comes!
best novel ever!!!!LOL i had the same question a while ago…
and what i mean by not “actively opposed” is that the Rebbe did not give fiery speaches derailing the zionist state. he wasn’t particularly fond of them either. Here is a story i heard as a kid, and i know you are going question it’s validity like you do to all the other anecdotes me and 770chabad post.
there was once a printing press owned by two brothers who were staunch Zionists but nevertheless, they printed many tanyas and, i believe, likkutei sichos (collection of the Rebbe’s sichos) because they respected the rebbe’s work.
one day, a chossid walked into the printing press to pick up some sefarim the Rebbe had told him to bring. upon his arrival, the two owners of the shop pounced on him and knocked him to the floor, beating him up until he bled.
when the chossid got up,dazed, he calmly asked the brothers why they had beaten him so mercilessly. They told him the following.
They once went into the rebbe for yechidus (private audience with the rebbe) to receive a brocha for their company . After they recieved their brocha from the Rebbe, they asked him why he opposed the Israeli holiday of Yom Haatzmaut. after all, they claimed, the independence of the israeli state will surely hasten the geulah!
the Rebbe replied “oh no, it won’t hasten the eulah. on the contrary, it will delay the geulah for such and such years” (one brother recalled the Rebbe to have said a certain number of years, and the other brother remembered it to have been different. the chossid himself forgot both numbers but he said it was something around 40 or 50 years).
and that’s why they had beaten him. they were so upset at the Rebbe for how he had spoken of their holiday!@put don the gun
“And the lubavitcher rebbe crying against giving away an inch of Land? It seems that we would have the confidence to lecture HIM on the REAL chabad shitah. It’s a shame that I wasn’t the Chabad Rebbe instead!”
Now the real question is why your account wasn’t suspended a while ago. and the fact that mods allowed that comment to be posted….
Daasyochid
“If that’s the case, he went against his predecessors.”
not doing something that your predecessors did is not called “going against”@RSo
“Could chochom possible be Chabadshlucha’s husband?”
No, No, No, No, definitely not. dont even start.. .please!!!!!!By the way, where are jakob and joseph on this topic? (no offense; i meant that as a joke)
@kjchusid
“It’s pretty hypocritical of you to call it “amazing” considering the 5th, 6th and yes even 7th Lubavitcher rebbes were opposed to Zionism”
The Rebbe was not actively opposed to zionism , in fact he was on great terms with former Israeli prime ministers (and even saved Ariel Sharon’s life by telling him not to go on a certain flight he wanted to use. He later found out that that flight had been hijacked by Arabs when he was supposed to be on it). he just wasn’t fully on board with the idea that much. The rebbe was, however strongly opposed to Israel being in the UN (at that time, the UN’s Anti – semitism wasn’t that well known so the fact that the Rebbe knew in advance that they shouldn’t be there is quite a wonder. In fact just recently, Israel withdrew from the UN!) I know that your trying to start a machlokes so please stop.if the year 6000 passes and moshiach doesn’t come then there is a mistake in our calendars.
in other words: what if the sun landed on the earth one day and 200000 people get burned. then foreign aliens fly down in parachutes and release a toxic gas whose antidote is only available in space. then, the oceans rise up and over flow flooding 5 countries.
basically stop imagining and have faith in what our rabbis have been teaching us, and await and demand his coming every day because that will hasten his arrival.not really; paper towels are designed to absorb liquids much better than regular paper. imagine cleaning up an orange juice spill with paper…. not the same thing. say there’s no tissues around to blow your nose with, what do you use? paper towel proves a pretty good substitute for tissues. imagine blowing your nose with paper…
okay they’re not the same thing.As a Lubavitcher, i can’t help but smile as I read your comments, discussing whether Chabad is Chasidish or not. Everyone knows (or at least educated people know) that “chasidim” refers to people whose ancestors goes back to the time of the Baal Shem Tov, the founder of chasidus. highly chasidish cities in Russia include Nevel, Volozhin, Haditch, Berditchev, Lubavitch, Liadi, and much more. Lubavitch is by all means chasidish. In regards to levush, there is a separate story for that. The previous Lubavitcher Rebbes all wore streimels.
You should get in touch with Cfar Chabad, they’ll give you a list of Zals you can choose.
“Zal” is the Yiddish word that lubavitchers use to refer to “Yeshivah gedolah”there is a Yeshivas Tomchei Temimim there you can go to.
Breslov or Chabad? big difference.
What shiur mesivtah are you in or are you going into Zal?Yes i would do that if their say was a matter of opinion. in our case however, this member is making a joke out of a chasidishe minhag
and GadolHadorah and Jakob
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/chasidishe-schechita
I dont know if daas yochid was trying to joke around or not, but one thing is for sure – the second comment in the above link is absolutely reppulsive and im shocked it made it past the YWN mods
P H OT
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A P H
P H I C MEMORY!!!go on chabad.org and click on the icon in the top right corner that says “Chabad locator” type in your zip code and it will bring a list of the closest Chabad houses near you. it will also tell you the name of the rabbi, their programs and a bunch of other details
and a few hipsters sprinkled on the top
The same person who wrote that comment also wrote a month earlier “Isn’t it obvious why they dont mix with other frum Yidden? they don’t want the children to learn their “evil misnagdishe ways”. they also will not participate in any non chabad events since they feel superioir and most likely these events will be anti-chabad in their minds.”
this is yet another example of “anti chabad”
MORE TO COMEthere was an article about an anti – semitic attack in Crown Heights in which someone ripped a sheitel off of a frum woman’s head.
CR’s response? what does crown heights have to do with the litvishe world….
the same person that wrote that , opened up a thread a short while later complaining about YWN’s obsession with Crown Heights. i dont know about you but call that “Chabad Hate”