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” we’re spreading the virus”
We were. We had mass spreading events. We opened schools without adequate prep or precautions. And we were photographed and videoed ignoring mask and social distancing. And just two days ago a friend in Brooklyn told me that we still not doing what we should do.
Meanwhile, my charedi cousin in Israel has not been to a minyan during the entire pandemic, and I have not been to an indoor service since March 13. We do not have to spread the virus.
“The Trump vaccine is a medical miracle developed through President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed in historically record time.”
Actually the Pfizer/Biontech virus beat it. Pfizer had nothing to do with Warp Speed. It was a triumph of free market capitalism, globalism, and immigration. All of which Trump hates. Oh and the CEO of Pfizer is a Greek Jew whose parents survived the Shoah so it is truimph for the Jewish people! Israel’s embassy to the US featured him lighting Chanukah candles in a virtual ceremony this year. The CEO of Biontech is a German Muslim born in Turkey so it is also a triumph of religious tolerance.
What you call the Trump vaccine is actually the Moderna vaccine. It is similar to the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine. Moderna had never brought a drug to the market, ever. The clinical research was done not by Trump, but by NIAID. Who is the head of NIAID? Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci should be on Mount Rushmore, not Trump. Dr. Fauci is a religious Catholic educated at Catholic schools so this is another triumph for religious scientists.
“Before the Beis Yaakov’s started girls were educated only at home”
In Germany and the US, Jewish girls were being educated in formal Jewish settings decades before Sarah Schenirer was born.
Alexander Hamilton on the pardoning power of the President, in Federalist Paper No. 74:
“He is also to be authorized to grant “reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, EXCEPT IN CASES OF IMPEACHMENT.” Humanity and good policy conspire to dictate, that the benign prerogative of pardoning should be as little as possible fettered or embarrassed. The criminal code of every country partakes so much of necessary severity, that without an easy access to exceptions in favor of unfortunate guilt, justice would wear a countenance too sanguinary and cruel. As the sense of responsibility is always strongest, in proportion as it is undivided, it may be inferred that a single man would be most ready to attend to the force of those motives which might plead for a mitigation of the rigor of the law, and least apt to yield to considerations which were calculated to shelter a fit object of its vengeance. The reflection that the fate of a fellow-creature depended on his sole fiat, would naturally inspire scrupulousness and caution; the dread of being accused of weakness or connivance, would beget equal circumspection, though of a different kind. On the other hand, as men generally derive confidence from their numbers, they might often encourage each other in an act of obduracy, and might be less sensible to the apprehension of suspicion or censure for an injudicious or affected clemency. On these accounts, one man appears to be a more eligible dispenser of the mercy of government, than a body of men.”
“they refuse to cut off telephone service to antisemites ”
Learn something about common carrier laws before you embarrass yourself again.
“For a goyishe celebration why use the jewish calendar?”
We use a goyish calendar — and an inaccurate one at that — to determine when to start saying “tein tal umatar”.
Every Trump supporter, and everyone still giving him the benefit of the doubt, needs to read this statement from Congressman Peter King:
Let me state this as unequivocally as I can: Every item which President Trump objected to in the COVID Omnibus legislation was specifically requested by the Trump Administration! You got that: – EVERY item! That includes aid to Egypt, Pakistan, Burma, Sudan and Central America and funding for the Smithsonian.
Additionally it was totally deceptive for the President to say that Congress failed to provide assistance to restaurants. The truth is that Congresswoman Grace Meng and I co-sponsored legislation to give direct grants to restaurants but the Trump Administration adamantly refused to assist restaurants.
Believe me I don’t take any satisfaction in pointing out how wrong the President is. I have strongly supported the President and worked hard for his re-election. I am particularly indebted to him for his outstanding leadership in stopping MS-13’s killing rampage on Long Island, crushing the ISIS caliphate in the Middle East and standing with the Police.
However when I saw the rabid, uninformed comments that were made attacking Republicans who voted for the legislation which President Trump supported and urged us to vote for, I felt compelled to set the record straight. And let me be clear the COVID legislation was negotiated by President Trump’s own Treasury Secretary. Every word was approved by the White House.
The accompanying legislation implementing the President’s foreign policy and domestic programs were debated and approved by the respective Committees with zero objections from the White House. The White House also agreed to the bills being merged and voted on together.
When the legislation passed, the Treasury Secretary said it was “the best birthday present” he could have gotten. It was later, almost 24 hours after the legislation had passed, that the President said the legislation was a “disgrace.”
The only possible excuses for the President’s conduct is that he didn’t know what his own administration was doing or he panicked in the face of rabid attacks by yahoos on social media.
For those of you who made the hysterical attacks on those Republicans who voted for the legislation advocated by President Trump: Did you really think that Kevin McCarthy and Lindsay Graham were part of the “swamp” or that Senators such as David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler were betraying President Trump? Did you even take a moment to think logically or are you incapable of intelligent thought? Or perhaps is your rage motivated by an insecurity which compels you to project your character defects on to others?If you had any strength of character or sense of moral integrity, you would realize how misguided and uninformed you were and you would apologize.
I certainly don’t expect that and I really don’t care. All is know is that I acted honorably by voting for what President Trump requested and the overwhelming majority of Congress supported.
As for those uninformed malcontents I will pray for them in the spirit of Christmas and Hanukkah.Merry Christmas! God Bless America!!
GW Bush and Obama didn’t pardon cronies. Both appear to have been sickened by what Clinton did shortly before leaving office and what Trump is doing is worse. Most of Obama’s clemency actions weren’t pardons but commutations for minor drug offenses. There is no comparison.
“Does supporting him oppose “traditional moral values”?”
I agree 100% with what Joe Lieberman said about Bill Clinton on the floor of the US Senate on September 3, 1998. (I’d give a link but the moderators probably would not allow it; you can find it easily on the internet.) And that was before Clinton’s pardon of his brother, or of his pardon of Marc Rich, or of the communtation of the sentences of the four Rockland County Chasidim. The commutations for the Chasidim earned both Bill and Hillary huge support from the frum community.
Good catch on Parler. Its founders claim not to be anti-Semitic, but the Simon Wiesenthal Center recently put out a 25 page report documenting its allowing anti-Semitism, holocaust denial and a host of other hatemongering.
No. The problem is not with the power to pardon, it is that we elected a moral degenerate crook as President.
After the Kushner pardon there can be no question that anyone who still supports Trump opposes traditional moral values.
“Biden’s pending pseudo-presidency is increasingly becoming discredited.”
Actually it isn’t, but you are permitted to remain in your alternate reality.
“The bill is five thousand pages long”
Most of that is simply the bill to fund all the government agencies. Do you want to shut down the government for weeks while people read the uninteresting details?
“biden has a speech problem. he speaks all over the place”
Biden has always been a terrible public speaker, prone to gaffes. This isn’t dementia. It is someone who isn’t a reality TV star.
“signing peace deals between Israel and a bunch of Arab countries”
There have been no peace deals. None of the countries that recently normalized relations with Israel have ever been at war with Israel.
“pelosi changed everything at the last second to save the day”
It wasn’t the last second, it was over a period of months. But that did get the agreement passed. It is a modest improvement over NAFTA. Of course ideologues like Bernie Sanders still opposed it.
“learning hilchos Loshen Hora and the definition of motzi shem ra and toles.”
You are the one who called Rev. Warnock an anti-Semite, not me.
Warnock is pretty far to the left, but his opponent is an even bigger extremist in the opposite direction and a crook to boot. She had a photo op with a white supremacist earlier this month and then put out a Trump like lie claiming that she didn’t know who he was — the racist’s security firm had worked for her campaign. And she did illegal insider trading earlier this year. She also refuses to acknowlege the results of the Presidential election.
There appears to be an anti-Semite in this election and it isn’t Warnock.
I am upping my contributions to Warnock’s campaign. The good news is that an A-rated polling firm released a poll today that had him up by 7. It is absolutely essential for the US government to function over the next two years that Dems win both Senate runoffs in Georgia so that Moscow Mitch McConnell is no longer able to block anything and everything.
“Usmca made a better deal for America ergo Mexico is paying more”
Wrong. First, the final version of USMCA is mainly Pelosi, not Trump. She basically rewrote it. Second, trade deals help all parties to them; trade wars cause all to lose. Trump’s economic policies are Herbert Hoover; Pelosi’s are Franklin Roosevelt.
Also William McKinley. Although TR was basically forced out of the Republican Party.
“the election was possibly stolen ”
Trump is still trying to steal the election but hopefully will fail.
“Opposing free trade (this was a Democrat idea he co-opted”
Actually the Democratic Party has been supportive of free trade since 1876. The last Democratic President not to be a free trader was James Buchanan. What Trump did was to bring back Herbert Hoover’s policies of fomenting disasterous trade wars.
“YOUR DOCTOR IS NOT G-D. TORAH COMES BEFORE ALL”
Doctors aren’t God but neither are rabbis. And on health matters we follow health experts not rabbis. Torah says we prioritize life over all mitzvot save three.
“A minyan is essential. PERIOD. There is no reason why people shouldnt daven with a minyan. ”
No it isn’t. And everyone here knows that. Desirable, yes. Essential? Everyone can fulfill tefillah requirements praying alone.
“how much more fraud there was”
So far there is no evidence of any.
“The constitution says no”
No it doesn’t. Pelosi becomes President under your scenario and there will be no Vice President.
Correct. The idiot is the fascist moral degenerate in the WH.
“trump(usa) actually bought in advance a large amount of vaccines so yeh they are trumps(USA) vaccine”
Idiot. They have not been delivered to Trump.
And Trump was in fact trying to prevent vaccines from being shipped to Israel (or anywhere else). But Pfizer has worldwide manufacturing. Yet another reason to support globalization, which Trump hates.
“sent an expedited shipment of vaccines to Israel.”
Trump doesn’t have vaccines to ship. They are owned by Pfizer, a private company.
Trump tried to but Baruch HaShem the moral degenerate backstabber lacks the authority. He wants to dictate what every private company does but can’t. The US is a free market capitalist state not a fascist state.
“I guess the crack legal team”
Maybe they were high on crack when they wrote their embarrassing arguments that keep getting shot down by right wing Republican judges.
Well 23 states opposed Texas and the SC refused to hear it. None of Trump’s appointees wanted to hear it. A Trump appointed judge in Wisconsin violated the 11th Amendment to hear a Trump vs. Wisconsin case in order to point out how baseless were the arguments.
The question is when Trump and his supporters will return to reality.
Texas Republican Party Chairman just called for secession and a new union of seceding states.
Been there, done that.
The NY congressional map was drawn by a court, not Democrats. The NJ congressional map was drawn to eliminate a Democratic seat; it is a Republican gerrymander.
The NY State Assembly map is indeed a Democratic gerrymander but the NY Senate map is a highly partisan Republican gerrymander.
The only states where the congressional maps are Democratic gerrymanders are Maryland and Illinois.
Edited- please calm down
realclearpolitics.com polling average was Biden 51.2 percent.
Actual vote was Biden 51.4 percent.Feral cats need to be rounded up when they threaten endangered species. But both the pigeons and rats in North America are themselves invasive destructive species not native to the Americas. Cats are about the only thing that works to control rats and peregrine falcons are the only thing other than cats that control pigeons.
“This was the offensive comment which lumped all pro Trump people together”
The truth hurts. Well, facts don’t care about your feelings. If Trump does succeed in overturning the election it doesn’t just mean that the US is no longer a democracy, but that there is no longer a rule of law here.
If you don’t have cats you will have mice and rats. My neighborhood is crawling with feral cats. It reminds me of Jerusalem! I have seen one rat in over 11 years. In the Bronx.
“He is an unapologetic conservative, and he pushed his conservative policy ”
No he isn’t. He is a bigoted nativist racist licentious promiscuous lying cheating business fraudster narcisist snowflake who is melting down because America decide it cared about morality.
And his policies aren’t conservative either. Conservatives used to want free trade, high levels of immigration, limited government regulation, and clean government. Trump has given us trade wars, immigration bans, government dictates on business conduct, and more scandals and corruption than any President since Harding. And unlike Harding, Trump is *personally* benefitting from the corruption.
It is a Chilul HaShem that anyone claiming to be religious can support this. It degrades Orthodox Judaism in the minds of the world when non-frum people and non-Jews see that we support such a rasha. Those who support him have turned their backs on the Torah.
And now you make it worse by endorsing Trump’s attempt to overturn a free and fair election. Orthodox Jews Oppose American Democracy. Have you no sense of gratitude for all the good that America has given Jews that you want to overturn its elections to keep such a rasha in charge? You are giving ammunition to the anti-Semites, and in this case the anti-Semtism would be justified.
And you know that everything I wrote is true. You just can’t admit you are wrong. It is okay. Tshuvah is available at any time.
“one can KNOW there is fraud even if there is no “evidence” to hold up in court.”
I can KNOW that you eat bacon cheeseburgers even though there is no “evidence” to hold up in court.
“For example, if across america, there was 100% voter turnout”
There wasn’t
““fact checkers” count that as a lie”
It was. Objectively. The best the US economy ever has been was when Lyndon Johnson was President. Oh, and he balanced the budget, too.
” It would beg the question of where do we draw the line. ”
This is a deeper question than we realize. The entire capitalist corporation-based economic system is incompatible with Torah. No such thing as limited liabiity. No such thing as securitization of debt. Massively greater restrictions on businiess activity. The Remah paskens that non-Jews are required to follow Chosen Mishpat.
“and justifying FDR’s actions in sending Jews to their deaths by closing borders”
FDR didn’t close the borders. A Republican Congress and President had done so in 1924. ” Any alien who at any time after entering the United States is found to have been at the time of entry not entitled under this Act to enter the United States, or to have remained therein for
a longer time than permitted under this Act or regulations made thereunder, shall be taken into
custody and deported…”As I pointed out earlier, though, from all countries in the Western Hemisphere the borders were open.
“I’d say 99% of pro-lifers, agree in a case that the mothers life is at risk.”
They say that but in practice they don’t mean it. Their definition of risk is not ours. And in three countries they have actually banned abortions when the mother would certainly die without one. That is more than 1% of the countries of the world. (Four countries if you include Vatican City but I am conceding that one as not relevant.)
“you can’t use 1% of cases to justify universal policy.”
Yes you can. We do it all the time in halachah. We don’t keep kosher 99% of the time. We don’t keep Shabbat 99% of the time. We don’t do brit milah 99% of the time. And we don’t allow women to have medically necessary abortions 99% of the time.
“There is no logic or evidence to suggest that this pandemic would have been handled more responsibly by another leader”
Germany, South Korea, New Zealand, Israel, Canada….how many countries do I need to name to disprove this silly defense of the indefensible?
“Really?! Exactly how many? And do you have any idea what kind of damage and disenfranchisement this horrific game of identity politics is wreaking and what the future ramifications can be.”
You don’t have any idea what kind of damage and disenfrancisement racism has caused.
I am old enough to have gone to a segregated all white elementary school. The companion all black school was a dump, with few resources, and poor pay for everyone. Your horrific game of denying the effects of government-imposed racism is what has the horrible ramifications. You can argue about what should be done now, but we can’t even have a conversation if you don’t get out of denial about what was going on in America from 1619 to about 1970.
“how do you think that might affect the lives and livelihoods of the lowest earner demographic groups which include minority groups and legal immigrants.”
It would improve the economic health of the country for everyone. Immigrants take jobs that Americans don’t want to do or aren’t trained to do.
Oh and some of the poorest parts of the US are almost all white. Ever been to eastern Kentucky? Or almost anywhere in West Virginia? Immigrants don’t go there because there aren’t any jobs.
“WE NEED HIGHER TAXES IN ORDER TO AVOID DEFUNDING POLICE” – that’s an interesting spin but not even close to the real reason de-funders such as Marxist BLM, Antifa want to abolish law enforcement. And implementing change in law enforcement institutions would require more not less funding.”
I have been opposing the BLM national leadership since 2004. And Bernie Sanders agrees with you on that last sentence. Are you a Sanders supporter?