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If I wanted antiSemitic propaganda I’d go to a site run by IfNotNow or electronicintifada or David Duke. Why do I have to read it here?
“It’s gaslighting with you guys. Demonizing the other side.”
People who tried to reverse the election deserve all the demonization we can give them. They are truly evil.
“The entire late night vote dump all went to Biden. Explain that.”
That was because in many states it was illegal to count any of the mail in votes before election day. Democrats and election officials begged the Republicans to allow it but they refused. They knew that they wanted to give ammunition to vile conspiracy theorists like yourself. So when the elections officials retired for the night they released votes that went to Biden.
And additional reason is that in most states, larger cities and counties take longer to count votes. I saw this in election after election in Virginia. I called the 2016 election in Virginia for Clinton while Trump was still way ahead in the count because I knew where the yet uncounted votes were. Election junkies have been doing this for many years. This year, I went to bed early Tuesday night and when I woke up Wednesday morning, I knew that there was no way that Trump had any chance to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Arizona because of these patterns and that Biden would be President. Conspiracy theorists like you are ignorant of this kind of stuff.
“A lot of Votes for Trump switched to Biden!”
Stop lying. Republicans in Georgia proved that that did not happen.
“Prove your statement!”
It was covered by the New York Post, which is usually a Trump propaganda rag. The November 4 article was titled, “USPS says huge amount of mail-in ballots were not delivered”. I would post a link but the mods would likely delete it.
Relevant quotes from the article:
“In Philadelphia, 33.7 percent of mail-in ballots were not delivered to election offices on Election Day, the data shows.
In Atlanta, the same goes for 17.9 percent of mail-in ballots, and in Detroit for 21.1 percent, the filing states.”
The election was not close and it would have been a bigger blowout had the USPS, under the control of Trump’s stooges, done its job.
The Pfizer vaccine was not tested on persons under 16; the Moderna vaccine was not tested on persons under 18. They may well be safe for children but we don’t know. 20somethings will likely be the last to be vaccinated in the US as they are at lower risk of serious disease or death.
Everyone who values life should get vaccinated as soon as they can.
Had all the legally cast mail in votes from Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit been delivered, the results in those states would have been much larger victories for Biden, but Trump cheated by having his stooge at the USPS fail to deliver the ballots and then he sent his legal goons to court to prevent the legally cast ballots from being counted.
There was an attempted steal but it was not by the Democrats.
The vaccine does not prevent you from getting infected, it prevents you from dying if you do get infected. You can still pass on an infection to someone else. And if they have not been vaccinated that could kill them. You want that on your conscience?
Also, it is not clear how long the antibodies last after being infected or after being vaccinated.
Furthermore, evidence is that even 70% herd immunity is not enough to get the pandemic to die out. Famously a town in Brazil had that level and still have a massive deadly second wave. I am doing some research into this area right now with some other data and so far things are depressing. We may need to get 80% or even higher immunity. Currently no NYC zip code even has a 50% antibody positive test rate so we are nowhere near being able to think about herd immunity.
Besides, killing off the stupid is not something Jews should be advocating.
Yes, the idea that Biden is “bringing in” illegal immigrants is indeed a lie, but that is to be expected from the Republicans. They are already here. Ronald Reagan “brought in” three million illegal immigrants by that logic.
About half of these illegal immigrants are originally from Mexico. Most have been here over a decade; many were brought here as children by their parent. Illegal immigration, particularly from Mexico, has declined significantly and in fact the net migration to Mexico has been in the other direction as many Americans have moved to Mexico in the past decade. Mexico is a more hospitable country.
“They claim the Russians have a good one as well.”
Putin can’t be trusted on anything, but a large randomized clinical trial on the Sputnik V vaccine was done and results were published recently. Very low rates of serious adverse events and only 3 deaths out of over 16,000 vaccinated participants, none related to COVID. I would take the Sputnik V vaccine if that were the option given to me. It may be a very important tool to fighting COVID in poor countries as it doesn’t require freezing. (The same is true of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.)
“Half of the hospitals in most of America did not buy any additional equipment and ignored the coming threat. They were short of masks.”
One reason was that Jared Kushner HaRasha was having his goons steal them. He deserves some of the blame for the high rate of deaths in nursing homes.
I don’t think I have ever been in a minyan that objected to a non-chiyuv saying Kaddish. It is one of the reasons we go to minyans, to allow people to say Kaddish. There is a woman I say Kaddish for who was a secular Israel from a secular family; the secular family gave me permission and appreciated it. I tell the gabbai that I am saying Kaddish for a non-relative and it has ever been a problem.
“Do you see yourself as the icon of humanity so if you aren’t sick nobody will be?”
No, I am pointing out that although some people get sick as the result of the vaccine, many don’t.
And in any case the sickess from the vaccine is nothing like getting COVID, which can kill you. There were ZERO deaths from COVID in the vaccinated groups in either the Pfizer or Moderna clinical trials. The 95% efficacy widely quoted is for getting sick at all. And the data from Israel are simillar. There has rarely been as spectacular a success in medicine so quickly.
“we let the first farmer along the river to possibly use more water”
Interestingly that is the law nowhere in the US. In the East, upstream users cannot damage the interest of downstream users. (Not usually an issue because there are not general water shortages.) In the west, however, water is an owned commodity and water rights are separate from other property rigths. You may be stealing someone else’s property if you eat a snowball made from newfallen snow!
“the real problem facing POC. Culture.”
People used to utter simiar garbage against Jews.
Thank you, Reb Eliezer, for this great Torah! I will share it in your name. 🙂
“America was founded on the foundation of equality.”
It absolutely was NOT. Black people remained mostly enslaved and the majority of Founding Fathers owned Black people. (Some would free them.) Jews were second class citizens in many states, unable to build synagogues, and in the case of Maryland, vote or hold public office. Anti-Catholic bigotry was rampant, even making it into the Declaration of Independence. Suspected heretical Christians would be persecuted in part of the US well into the 1810s. And of course women could not vote and were limited even in signing contracts. (Heretics would be elected both President and Vice President in 1824, the last official Established Church ended in 1833, slavery ended in 1865, women slowly became able to vote between 1869 and 1920, and civil rights laws offered some legal protection starting in the 1960s, but we still don’t have a fully egalitarian society.)
” have, BY FAR, the biggest death ratio in the entire United States”
Not for nursing homes. MA is #1. Partly because Jared Kushner’s goons stole 3 million PPE items. HIs obstruction of PPE deliveries is probably the real reason nursing home deaths were so high, but chas v’shalom anyone connected to Trump ever get blamed for anything here.
“the best defense is a good offense”
I wasn’t defending Cuomo I was comparing him to another rasha.
“Is that supposed to prove it’s safe?”
No. The huge randomized clinical trials proved that the vaccines are safe.
Now 58 hours and still nothing more than minor soreness in my arm.
Everyone should get vaccinated as soon as eligible and vaccine is available. Do not be one of the people who proves Darwin right.
“food processing is much more complicated”
Rav Soloveitchik z’tz’l told his students that almost all ice cream was kosher without a hechsher. But that was when Ice cream consisted of milk, cream, eggs, sugar, and natural flavors. Times have changed. Fortunately almost all national and regional brands of ice cream have hechshers today.
“at the time it seemed like a reasonable approach”
It probably prevented tens of thousands of deaths from ambulances needing to be turned away at hospitals. But the lack of PPE (not Cuomo’s fault) and the generally poor care given in many nursing homes literally killed people. And a coverup is inexcusable. I wonder how many other states many have doctored their data; we know Florida did.
The coverup is inexcusable and wasn’t even necessary. Nursing home death rates were higher in NY than many states but lower than many others. (As of a few weeks ago, NY was #18 out of 50 states plus DC.) At least Cuomo is getting called out for his doctoring of the numbers; Ron De Santis is getting away with it.
Cuomo should plan on retiring in 2022.
So far I am unimpressed by Yang. I wanted Max Rose to run.
“Trump consistently acted in the interest of Jews & Israel”
Endorsing neo-Nazis is in the interest of Jews and Israel?
“We should hold ourselves to a higher standard than an RFK Jr.”
RFK Jr. was finally banned from Instagram today for spreading vaccine lies. This and other frum sites have lower standards than Instagram.
10 1/2 hours since I had my second vaccine dose. Absolutely no side effects yet other than a tiny bit of soreness in the arm where it was injected.
Lots of things are legal that should never, ever, EVER be done. Like smoking cigarettes. And attending any crowded indoor religious event. Both can kill you.
“ready to give out all this stimulus”
Dems saw what happened after they enacted a too-small stimulus in 2009. Voters blamed them (correctly) for compromising with Republicans and creating a really sluggish recovery. As a result the Democrats lost 6 seats in the Senate and 63 seats in the House of Representatives. They aren’t going to make that mistake again.
MTG spoke for ten minutes, much of which was defending herself, and she didn’t even address some of the absolutely outrageous stuff she has done. It is an even less convincing “apology” than Omar’s.
Here is the text of Omar’s “apology”:
“Anti-Semitism is real, and I am grateful for Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic tropes. My intention is never to offend my constituents or Jewish Americans as a whole. We have to always be willing to step back and think through criticism, just as I expect people to hear me when others attack me for my identity. This is why I unequivocally apologize.
At the same time, I reaffirm the problematic role of lobbyists in politics, whether it be AIPAC, the NRA, or the fossil fuel industry. It’s gone on too long and we must be willing to address it.”
She equivocated after saying she was unequivocal.
“She still refused to vote to ban BDS.”
My bad. There was never a vote to ban BDS which would be unconstitutional anyway; with very limited exceptions people have a right to boycott pretty much anything they want to boycott and nobody can be forced into particular investments. The vote was simply to condemn BDS and she even voted against that!
Schumer on Omar, also February 11, 2019, via Twitter:
“Rep. Omar’s use of an anti-Semitic stereotype was offensive and irresponsible.
This kind of intolerance has no place in Congress—or anywhere in American society.
No one should invoke anti-Semitic tropes during policy disagreements.”
“there was only a few murmurs from her GOP compatriots.”
Only 11 Republicans voted to kick her off her committees.
“Omar apologized”
I don’t believe her apology. It came after Pelosi apparently twisted her arm into a pretzel. She still refused to vote to ban BDS. I contributed to her primary opponent last year. But at least she went through the motions, unlike Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
Thank you for bumping the thread that was created in my honor. It turns out that my parents of blessed memory were married 65 years ago today and this is a nice opportunity to thank them for all they gave me.
“The left didn’t condemn Omar’s antisemitic statement. ”
I guess Pelosi, Hoyer, Clyburn, Luján, Jeffries, and Katherine Clark aren’t part of “the left”. It is nice to finally have someone on this site acknowledge that. Here is the statement that they put out about Omar, two years ago next week:
“Anti-Semitism must be called out, confronted and condemned whenever it is encountered, without exception.
“We are and will always be strong supporters of Israel in Congress because we understand that our support is based on shared values and strategic interests. Legitimate criticism of Israel’s policies is protected by the values of free speech and democratic debate that the United States and Israel share. But Congresswoman Omar’s use of anti-Semitic tropes and prejudicial accusations about Israel’s supporters is deeply offensive. We condemn these remarks and we call upon Congresswoman Omar to immediately apologize for these hurtful comments.
“As Democrats and as Americans, the entire Congress must be fully engaged in denouncing and rejecting all forms of hatred, racism, prejudice and discrimination wherever they are encountered.”
“but do you have any problems with the fact that just six companies ”
Yes, but Republicans have long opposed antitrust laws and have packed the courts with sympathetic judges. It will be years before the federal govenment will be able to do anything about the problem and even then that will be only true if Democrats continue to control the White House and Congress.
Now-Congressman Ritchie Torres (then a City Council Member) about the rioting, arson, and looting in his district last June:
“I am deeply distressed by the burning of Fordham Road, which I saw first-hand. You would have to live in a morally inverted universe to think that racial justice is served by burning down communities of color. It never has been and never will be.”
Some of the violence occurred walking distance from my house. I saluted Ritchie Torres then, and I do again. Torres won his primary a few weeks later and was elected in November with 89% of the vote. Oh, and Congressman Torres is an enthusiastic true believing Zionist.
“We should stop magnifying the power that the squad have”
The Republicans are more interested in fundraising off the stupid statements the Squad makes than they are about doing anything effective to counter the nonsense. But it should be noted that one of the Squad members, Ayanna Pressley, doesn’t hate Israel. She voted to condemn BDS.
“there was never a terrorist he did not seek to support and fund”
Typical Republican lie. Obama never allowed US funding to Hamas and he sent US forces to attack ISIS. Or are you going to tell me that ISIS isn’t a terrorist group.
“Negotiating a “warm” peace between Isreal and 4 Arab countries is not just “show
It isn’t nothing but it isn’t a peace negotiation. None of those 4 Arab countries were ever at war with Israel. And the bribes to UAE and Morocco were huge.
“actually trump did. for some reason” no one minded then.”
As have the last five Prime Ministers of Israel. As did President George W. Bush. This isn’t about Israel’s security, this is entirely about partisan hackery.
“Are you assuming that being a housewife is out of style after five thousand years?”
Actually it is only about 75 years old. Women always had to work because most of the world was in poverty, including Jews. Often (mostly?) the work was unpaid, but women had essential economic roles in farms and in family businesses. The only exceptions were in the fabulously wealthy. The housewife idea itself is a goyish custom made possible by the unprecedented post World War II prosperity.
Republicans have long opposed strict enforcement of antitrust laws. They insist that corporations can do no wrong.
Dr. Frankenstein, meet your creation.
“They started with Silencing Conservative View Points”
You don’t sound like someone who has been silenced.
“They are working on basically destroying the 2nd Amendment with trying to pass New Gun Control legislation in the Congress.”
Courts have consistently ruled that the 2nd Amendment allows for many gun control laws. And the idea that there even IS an individual right to have guns is not something that the Founding Fathers ever promoted. Rather it is radical right wing judicial legislating of the type that conservatives used to hate.