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No, but only 2x as expensive now rather than 3x.
“Which candidate do you think is the best for the country (NOT who you think will win) from the republican side? “
Rubio. He is the only major Republican to have supported health care for the 9/11 responders, he understands that immigrants are people, and his “New American Century” is a positive vision for the future.
“From the Democratic side? “
Clinton. She is the only candidate from either party with any experience in foreign policy at all. (We have had three consecutive presidents who have had on the job training.) And her detailed issues essays show an understanding of the complexities of government that none of the other candidates show. She also has the best group of advisors of any candidate.
“Which candidate do you think WILL win the Primaries from the republican side? From the Democratic side?”
If I could predict that I would be placing large bets and not telling anyone by reasoning! 😉
“except for Sanders who would be a disaster (he is a socialist, allied in the past with the ultra-secular vehemently anti-Torah factions in Eretz Yisrael, and his policies restricting personal freedom in favor of state control of personal decision making”
Sanders barely qualifies as a socialist; the only thing he wants to have the government run is health insurance, a system that works a lot better in countries that do that than the US system does. His real ideology is welfare state capitalism, which is actually closer to the Torah ideal than either laissez-faire or real socialism. And the “anti-Torah alliance” allegation is nonsense — he can’t even remember the name or affiliation of the kibbutz he lived in! Besides, that was over 50 years ago; at the same time Clinton was campaigning for Barry Goldwater. Are you going to disqualify Ted Cruz because his father, with whom he is close, worked for Fidel Castro? And every Republican favors much more draconian restrictions in personal freedom than Sanders. Sanders also did not “honeymoon” in the Soviet Union; he traveled there on official business as Mayor of Burlington, Vermont to establish a sister city program with a city in what is now Russia. Burlington is a rather well-governed city with a 2.7% unemployment rate even though it has lost most of its industry.
” So instead of providing me with what he did/said”
It takes less than one minute of internet searches to find the links that confirm that all of that is true. YWN doesn’t normally like outside links so I won’t post them.
Among the other disgusting bigoted things Trump has said was that he described someone who beat up a homeless Hispanic man in Boston and claimed that Trump inspired him in the crime as “passionate”. That is the kind of stuff that Italians heard from Mussolini.
Trump has also slandered Jeb Bush’s wife who was born in Mexico.
It is ironic that people who claim to be conservative supporters of small government are defending Trump. By comparison to Trump, Bernie Sanders is a libertarian!
“After seven years without a word against anti-Israel Obama”
Obama isn’t anti-Israel.
“then call another Jew a fool?”
Yes, anyone, Jew or non-Jew, who doesn’t think Trump is a bigot is a fool. Just like the foolish Jews who supported Mussolini (and there were a lot of them).
Since some folks here think it is ok to be bigoted towards non-Jews, I will offer some of what Trump said about Jews — to the Republican Jewish Coalition:
“I’m a negotiator like you folks. We’re negotiators….Is there anybody that doesn’t renegotiate deals in this room? This room negotiates that.”
“You’re not gonna support me because I don’t want your money. You want to control your politicians, that’s fine.”
Had any Democrat said anything like this, everyone here would be on him like white on rice. And the criticism would be absolutely deserved. And he has said far worse about other religious and ethnic groups.
“those with Down’s syndrome and the autism are the souls of tzaddikim to facilitate our soul correction. They need no soul correction, that’s why they lack free choice.”
Many if not most children and adults with Down’s Syndrome definitely have free choice!!!
“And if we elect H. Clinton?”
Not much will change. The Republicans will block everything she wants to do in foreign and domestic policy.
“For a better example look at the crime statistics in the police precints in Boro Park, Midwood, Williamsburg”
I did. Boro Park is among the safer neighborhoods but the others aren’t.
“Anyone liberals disagree with is a bigot.”
If you think Trump is not a bigot you are a fool.
If the prospective tenants are non-observant Jews, invite them to stay lunch and have them experience how wonderful Shabbos is! This can be an opportunity!!!
“Can someone be the shaliach tzibur out of his iPhone? “
I have on rare occasions been shaliach tzibur out of my Android phone for a minyan where almost everyone is praying using one smartphone app or another as their siddur.
“No time in history have women been expected to earn a living so their husbands can learn. It is scandalous! “
Yet people accuse Open Orthodoxy of breaking with tradition.
How any frum person could even consider voting for Trump is beyond me. He is a nativist bigot anti-vaxxer 9/11 truther with a history of horrible business ethics who spouts anti-Semitic memes, won’t call out the anti-Semites who are supporting him, and whose most prominent business ventures are casinos and beauty pageants.
He makes Bernie Sanders look like an advocate of small government by comparison. The one thing I can say about him that is favorable is that I don’t think he is actually an anti-Semite — but then again, Mussolini wasn’t either.
If we elect a bigot like Trump or a theocrat like Cruz we may have to leave.
“In the 1870 south there were many Blacks in elected office by the 1900 there was none. Why because the blacks were intimidated from voting.”
Actually the last African American Congressman from the South until 1972 was George Henry White of North Carolina, who left office in 1901. And it wasn’t just intimidation, it was legal barriers to voting that the white racists enacted in order to suppress voter turnout among the “wrong” groups. Back then the people doing that were Democrats but today they are Republicans, as they know that they cannot win without doing so.
And it isn’t just blacks who are targeted. Some communities in upstate NY have been targeting Jews. 🙁
It was the equivalent of a State Monitor (called an emergency manager) who poisoned the children of Flint Michigan. The entire idea is undemocratic and in Flint it proved tragic. If the school system is not fiscally viable, merge it with neighboring districts.
“Walmart”
No Walmarts in NYC. And I try avoid businesses that engage in unethical practices.
Only those of us engaged in Bitul Torah.
“GET A GUN AND PROTECT YOUR RIGHTFUL PROPERTY!!”
“I read on the news that dude in Boston was shot in a fight over a parking spot.”
Was shekermoochlat the shooter or the guy who got shot?
“Asei lecha rav is expired”
Why would you think that I would think that? It does go against the grain of the way daas torah is usually interpreted though.
We modern orthodox don’t believe in Daas Torah because Rav Soloveitchik z’tz’l told us not to.
(Full disclosure: I read that somewhere else on the internet; it is not original with me.)
Define “charedim”.
“It matches word-for-word the practice of Israel’s mortal enemies (who are your enemies too).”
This Coffee Room contains some of the most unfair slanderous attacks on the State of Israel in the entire internet — more strident even than neo-Nazi sites like Stormfront.
“The Pro Zionists have made yishuv Eretz Yisrael into the first and foremost mitzvah in the Torah.”
Well the first Rashi in the Torah does say that the first 61 chapters in the Torah are primarily to remind ourselves that the Land of Israel is ours.
And without the State of Israel there would be essentially no Jews in the Land of Israel today. At its worst the State is Israel is as good as any non-Jewish government.
“There had to have been a beis din trial with both spouses and the dayanim all present at the same time in beis din “
Not if one of the parties refuses to acknowledge the beit din or if one of the parties flagrantly engages in non halachic behavior such as marrying someone else in a secular ceremony or converts to another religion.
Before the drawing I calculated that your odds of being killed in an auto accident while driving a mile to the convenience store to buy the ticket are 3x that of actually winning.
My wife has never at any time since I met her worn or even owned any high heeled shoes. And that is one reason I married her. High heeled shoes exist to increase income for podiatrists.
“In other words, if paying taxes is like giving tzedaka. Receiving government funds is like taking from the Tamchui.”
Remember that contributions to the tamchui and kuppah were not voluntary. Rambam ruled that anyone not contributing the assessed amount would be given lashes and have his property confiscated by beit din.
It is not well known, but the English Parliament under Queen Elizabeth I set up a system of support for the poor that was surprisingly similar to the kuppah, with mandatory collection of taxes and distribution to the poor according to need. Every English colony would adopt a similar system; one of the persons who served as a poor funds administrator at one point during his career was George Washington.
“it isn’t contradictory for the same person to oppose government laws offering food stamps, welfare, WIC and Section 8 at the generous levels it is offered, and yet at the same time take advantage of those very laws he wishes to abolish”
It isn’t contradictory, it is hypocritical.
Jews do not, in general, vote for their economic interests. The frum neighborhoods in Brooklyn vote for Republican politicians who would end the very government programs that are essential to the survival of their communities. But the high income modern orthodox in Teaneck and Riverdale vote for Democratic politicians knowing that those politicians support raising their taxes.
” I understand the frustration in trying to find an Orthodox Sephardic rabbi that follows the Sephardic minhagim. “
I am surprised. I am Ashkenazic but I personally know at least four Orthodox Sefardic Rabbis who follow Sefardic minhagim.
“i have yet to meet someone pro marijuana who didnt take it themselves”
I have never smoked marijuana but think that it should at least be legal for medical uses. And the argument that it should not be legal for anyone is a pretty flimsy one given that alcohol and nicotine, which are far more deadly, are legal.
MsPrincess,
While there are weak programs in psychology as there are in most fields, the top programs in psychology are probably the most competitive doctoral programs in the world. I looked up admissions rates and none of the top ten psychology doctoral programs in the United States accepted even 3% of the applicants.
“According to the FDA and DEA, marijuana has not medical benefit or use. “
There is actually a lot of evidence that it has some medical benefits. And it is quite safe in the ordinary sense because the number of persons to have died from the acute effects of smoking marijuana appears to be zero — even if you go back through the entire history of the world! The FDA and DEA have to follow the lead of Congress here. Unfortunately.
What I do not understand is the OU putting a hechsher on a product that is a schedule I controlled substance (like heroin) and therefore illegal for any and all purposes in all fifty states and all five territories. While it should be no worse than a schedule II controlled substance (like cocaine) which is legal for medical use, that is not its current status.
” the current minhag of ashkenazim according to the rema is to require a mesorah on birds”
The Rema was alive when Jews first started eating turkey.
“it’s not the reason that it’s kosher”
The Torah explicitly says that it is. Twice.
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“But then there is the issue of whether you a tradition of eating the animal”
I have eaten both turkey and American bison and I guarantee you that there was no tradition of Jews eating either as they are native only to the Americas.
” seemed to think that this was indeed a serious shaila:”
If it has fins and scales I cannot understand why it would be a shilah at all.
“The ability to reproduce together and produce fertile offspring is actually what defines animals as belonging to the same species.”
That actually is not true. For example, domestic cats have interbred and produced fully fertile offspring with other cat species not even from the same genus that don’t look much like domestic cats such as the Asian Leopard Cat that has very different markings, or the Serval which is twice the size of a domestic cat and looks even less like one. Similarly, polar bears and grizzly bears have interbred and produced fertile offspring. The definition of “species” is somewhat arbitrary and cannot be appled to halachic questions.
“may we please take her morals into account”
Trump’s business ethics alone should disqualify him for any public office.
As should his record of lying — only 7% of his statements were classified by politifact as being “true” or “mostly true”. (For Clinton the number was 51%; for Carson 4%; for Cruz 22%.)
As should his use of anti-Semitic memes in his appearance before the Republican Jewish Coalition.
As should his questioning of Obama’s birthplace.
As should his blaming George W. Bush for the 9/11 attacks.
As should his promoting anti-vaccination theories that endanger us all.
And as Jews we should question why we should support someone whose most visible business interests are gambling casinos and beauty pageants.
But failing to support healthcare for 9/11 responders should in any ordinary party have ended his campaign. Rubio came down on the right side on this issue but neither Trump, Cruz, or Carson did.
Again, Hillary Clinton is a saint compared to these folks.
“if we ignore her tenuous relationship with integrity and the truth”
Indeed 28% of Hillary Clinton’s statements analyzed by the Tampa Bay Times’ politifact.com were deemed “mostly false”, “false”, or “pants on fire”.
The number for Carson was 84%, for Trump 76%, and for Cruz 66%.
Hillary Clinton is a saint compared to these three. But don’t expect their cheerleaders to give up the Big Lie technique.
“Mexico is not US soil and Romney was born there”
Clarification: It was George Romney, not Mitt Romney, who was born in Mexico to American parents. But George Romney was never Mexican as Mexico did not grant automatic citizenship at birth until 1917 and George Romney was born in 1907. Mitt Romney was born in 1947 in Detroit.
“So a perfectly stupid thread about MO has turned into an asinine thread about charlie.”
I actually came here to elevate the discussion.
“the Conservative temple in Riverdale, at least as I remember, is not in an area where there is a great deal of parking and walking is not a problem”
Correct. But it is better to walk to shul than to drive. I would hope that we can all agree at least to that, right?
“they say Holy Torah is multi-author”
No, they don’t. And you are over the issur of motzi shem ra by falsely claiming that they do.
“consevatives to driving car to shul on Shabbos”
I have never been to a service at the one C shul in my neighborhood but it does look like almost everyone who attends services there walks.
“reform expanding “
In my neighborhood the two R shuls have small memberships; one seems to be kept afloat only by Orthodox folks renting space there for minyans and simchas.
“just do whats comfortable to you”
That is not what Orthodox Judaism is about and you know it.
“Charlie, are we talking about the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale? There are two other shuls in the immediate vicinity.”
There are a lot MORE than two other shuls in the immediate vicinity. However, it is likely that the Hebrew Institute of Riverdale will have the largest membership for 2016 for the first time ever.
“We need more kollel yungerleit, not more baalei batim.”
And who will pay the yeshiva tuition for the children of the kollel learners?
The union bashing is not helpful. Catholic schools in the New York area are almost entirely unionized and yet their tuitions are generally lower.
I picked an ordinary Catholic high school near me, Sacred Heart High School in Yonkers. Current tuition is $8,500/year. By comparison, the Yeshiva University High School for Boys charges $24,590/year plus some mandatory fees.
“That’s not to say that it’s inexpensive to educate non-disabled kids… but it’s not $20K either.”
Just looked up per student expenses in NYC. As of 2014 the average cost per student in NYC was $18,623. But for special ed students it was $45,796 per student. For non-special ed students overall it was $15,039 and at Bronx High School of Science, one of the best high schools in the United States, it was $12,315.
‘however the problems of being “different” in a public school should not be underestimated.’
This is a bigger problem today than a generation or two ago because more frum kids went to public schools back then. There were also more after school talmud torahs.
Families in my neighborhood would love to be able to spend only $1,600/month on yeshiva tuition for two kids.