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August 25, 2023 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219787CSParticipant
Arso-so what? We have that also in Tanya 42 (I’m fluent in Lashon hakodesh and Yiddish BH, no need to translate)
August 25, 2023 11:38 am at 11:38 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219711CSParticipantJust PSA about nossi hador- nossi hador doesn’t mean that no one else is greater in some way than Moshe- Aharon was greater in Shalom, and Miriam was greater in Emuna/ tambourines. But the mission was Dor Deiah so Moshe was chosen as nossi
August 25, 2023 11:35 am at 11:35 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219703CSParticipantQwerty have you seen in Aleinu everyday that we daven that Hashem will be the only king when moshiach comes
August 25, 2023 11:34 am at 11:34 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219697CSParticipantQwerty
“You ask why it’s hard to fathom Hashem handing the world’s car keys to the Rebbe. Aftsr all that’s what will happen when Moshiach comes. Yes tjat’s what will happen when Moshiach comes. But tjete are no Moshiach tryouts. Hashem knows who will take the reins. Sometime hopefully in the non too distant future.”I’m sorry you understand the era of moshiach in this way. Do you really think we’ve been serving Hashem throughout golus so moshiach can come and take over from Hashem??
August 25, 2023 10:03 am at 10:03 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219654CSParticipantArso: here’s further stuff to look into with the mekoros- enjoy learning and let us know what you find
וזוהי השייכות ליעקב אבינו דוקא — כי “נשיא” הוא ר”ת “ניצוצו של יעקב אבינו”55, דכמו שיעקב אבינו הי’ “מאחד את כל ישראל” (כמ”ש בגו”א כאן)56, ובלשון רבינו הזקן57 שנשמת יעקב היתה “כלולה מכל הנשמות שבישראל מעולם ועד עולם” — כן הוא אצל כל נשיא ישראל, שנשמתו היא נשמה כללית הכלולה מכל נשמות אנשי דורו, ולכן הוא מאחד את כולם58.
וזהו שכ’ ופירש רש”י שיעקב אבינו הביא “ארזים” למצרים, כי כל הנשיאים הם ניצוץ של יעקב אבינו, ומקורם הוא מארץ ישראל, כי באמת הם למעלה מענין הגלות59, אלא שכדי להכניס בבנ”י הכח להתגבר על חשכת הגלות ולבנות משכן במדבר, “נטעם” במצרים, בזמן הגלות.
וזוהי נחמתם של ישראל בהיותם ב”מדבר העמים”, שיש להם ה”ארזים” שנטע יעקב אבינו בכל דור ודור60 שהם למעלה מהגלות, ונראים לבנ”י ומשפיעים כח בכל ישראל לא להתפעל מחשכת הגלות כ”א להתגבר עליו, עד שבונים ועושים משכן במדבר.
ואזי זוכים לנחמה השלימה — נחמה כפשוטה ממש, בפועל ממש — שהנחמה היחידה האפשרית על אריכות גלות זה האחרון היא — גאולה האמיתית והשלימה61 על ידי משיח צדקנו, כפשוטה ממש, למטה מעשרה טפחים ממש, ובמהרה בימינו ממש.
(משיחת ש”פ תרומה תשמ”ז)
55) מגלה עמוקות (אופן פד. עה”ת ר”פ ויחי). קהלת יעקב (לבעל מח”ס מלא הרועים) מע’ רבי.
56) ראה גם בית האוצר להר”י ענגל כלל א אות כ’. לקו”ש חכ”ו ע’ 8.
57) אגה”ק ס”ז (קיא, סע”ב).
58) וראה לקו”ש ח”ד ע’ 1051 ובהערות.
59) להעיר מפתגם אדה”ז “שלפני נשמות הגבוהות. . לא נחרב הבית כלל” (פלח הרמון שמות ע’ ז). וראה אוה”ת לנ”ך (כרך ג) ריש ע’ א’שלא.
60) להעיר ממחז”ל (יומא לח, ב. תניא פ”א) עמד ושתלן בכל דור ודור. . וצדיק יסוד עולם.
61) ואז יקויים היעוד (ישעי’ יב, א) אודך ה’ כי אנפת בי ישוב אפך ותנחמני.August 25, 2023 10:00 am at 10:00 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219649CSParticipantArso: rereading your post- please show/ quote me where Ispashtusa dMoshe is in the plural (besides for the fact we all have a spark of Moshe within us, I know that. As well as a spark of Moshiach, Navi etc.)
But from what I learned, there’s the mini version in all Yidden and the macro version in the Rebbe.
It would seem from rashi I think it is – Shmuel bdoro kMoshe bdoro etc- yes there were many leaders I’m sure, but one was highlighted as the go to for the generation
August 25, 2023 9:59 am at 9:59 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219647CSParticipantArso:
“That is weird! Is that the same as Trump lehavdil considering himself President? You don’t become something because you decide to be that thing. Unless, of course, you are extremely woke.”Look, for the definition of Nassi- see the post Menachem posted earlier- which came from The Rebbe.
As Mimale Makom of The Frierdiker Rebbe, the Rebbe filled his role in this regard as well. Or you can say he never saw himself as his own Rebbe- it seems whatever directives he gave and brochos etc etc were all told to him by The Frierdiker Rebbe, whether by the Ohel or elsewhere- that’s also true. In any case that’s what I meant.
As far as there being only one- dunno- it is true that Tanya says Roshei Bnei Yisrael shebidoram in the plural. So it would make sense that Moshe could also be in the plural. I’m not sure if Nassi hador means there’s only one the same way Moshe could be plural as well. I don’t really care either.
August 25, 2023 9:19 am at 9:19 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219632CSParticipantAvira, If you have issues with Hashem’s complete dominion revealing itself through a human/ humans, I’m curious what you think of Moshiach? After all, it says about him that וירד מים עד ים ומנהר עד אפסי ארץ.
Some people tend to obsess more about The Rebbe because once you connect to the Rebbe, your connection to Hashem will be so much deeper and enriched.
Personally I’m so grateful and excited that I have a
doable path laid out for myself on working towards becoming a tzadik of Tanya and beyond, and the motivation for doing it- because of my Rebbe.I haven’t seen anything else that would come close in giving me this gift and excitement for Hashem.
Just so you know the constant theme in Chassidus is Dirah btachtonim. The first stop for dirah btachtonim is that the Yid himself should be an expression of Hashem in this world. On a practical level- every thought speech and action. Including and especially divrei rishus. And beyond into the proper feelings for Hashem, kavana etc
August 24, 2023 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219472CSParticipant2scents:
“אין דור שאין בו כמשה״ (ב״ר פנ״ו ז׳In the Zohar: אתפשטותא דמשה שבכל דרא ודרא
So we mean the Moshe Rabbeinu of the generation.
August 24, 2023 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm in reply to: Shidduchim Between Litvish Girls and Chasidish Boys #2219452CSParticipantOk ok last one hopefully (sorry for derailing but I really think this will be fascinating for ujm and maybe others as well. Besides it’s hot off the press)
https://anash dot org/the-rebbes-pride-and-joy-in-nshei-ubnos-chabad/
August 24, 2023 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219256CSParticipantHow do we connect better through our Rebbe?
-A niggun off The Rebbe reveals the yechida shebinefesh and helps the other parts of the Neshama to have strength to do what’s right– Through the Torah of The Rebbe, I learn and understand much more about Hashem’s power, greatness and Self, which strengthens my yiras shomayim.
I also know what my mission is in this generation (specialized on top of keeping Torah and mitzvos)
And my personal shlichus
Observing The Rebbe also teaches me more yiras shomayim- if that’s what Hashem’s servant is like, how much more so Hashem, learn proper middos, how to be mechanech and so much more
August 24, 2023 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219242CSParticipantTo Avira and YB:
I don’t have much time but in short- yes as Avira said, our Rebbe helps us connect better to Hashem and it’s actually a mitzvah to do so. Uvo sidbak- to Him you shall cleave. How? By connecting to Talmidei Chachamim.No one likes megillas but you can look up hilchos T”T 5:5 (Rambam) on what reverence for a Rebbe is supposed to be.
As for cunins statement- he’s not The Rebbe but a very solid yid and chossid. And I’m supposing he meant The Rebbe rubbing the world (as a clear agent of Hashem )
as opposed to Trump/Biden/ the elites or whatever earthly agents there are lhavdil.Obviously not in contrast to Hashem- a Rebbe is completely batul to Hashem (as yb put it “avdus”, we say batul)
August 24, 2023 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219231CSParticipant“Non existent nassi hador”
Actually Rashi speaks about a nassi hador (is it leinei kol Yisrael?) “Yisrael nikraim Moshe uMoshe Nikra Yisrael ki nassi hador hu kichol hador ki hanassi hu hakol”
Remember from chitas
Along those lines I say The Rebbe, because The Rebbe took his responsibility as Nassi HaDor and was there to help every Jew who needed help weather bgashmius uvruchnius.
Many Jews (not just Lubavitcher) streamed to The Rebbe for yechidus/ dollars etc
Ik I didn’t finish work Avira yet but this was too easy
August 24, 2023 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2219187CSParticipantIs anyone still interested in my reply? It’s busy here…
August 23, 2023 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm in reply to: Shidduchim Between Litvish Girls and Chasidish Boys #2218973CSParticipantUjm- forgot to add- as I’ve been learning deep stuff on Shir HaShirim- I’ve come to realize that whoever degrades women degrades himself too, because all of klal Yisrael are Hashem’s “wife”, and have a feminine avoda in relation to Him.
August 23, 2023 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218971CSParticipantNomesorah- thanks but what was that in reference to?
August 23, 2023 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm in reply to: Shidduchim Between Litvish Girls and Chasidish Boys #2218970CSParticipantUjm- it kind of connected and didn’t want to waste time finding the original threads where we were discussing Torah and feminism…
August 23, 2023 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218900CSParticipant*moshiach not Malach
August 23, 2023 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218930CSParticipantAvira, I can respond to your post but before I do, please explain the פסוק: ויאמינו בה׳ ובמשה עבדו
Why should the Yidden need to believe in Moshe? Shouldn’t they only believe in Hashem? Especially that their Emuna in Hashem wasn’t so great at that point? Thanks
August 22, 2023 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218595CSParticipantTruth is, there were people who, from there description, were Tzaddikim too, post war such as the Baba Sali, the Gerrer Rebbe ( who sensed things with ruach hakodesh) (I think it was the Gerrer Rebbes, if not than another, not the point)
I wish I heard of more Tzaddikim today, but in light of The Rebbe telling us that the responsibility to bring Malach has passed on to the individual men, women and children from the Tzadik etc, shortly before the Rebbes stroke, it makes sense…
August 22, 2023 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm in reply to: Shidduchim Between Litvish Girls and Chasidish Boys #2218558CSParticipantFor Ujm I came across an amazing maamar which was from the mitteler Rebbe, (way before feminism), which explained that the reason why Kabbala uses the male female paradigm for Hashem and bnei Yisrael/ mashpia mekabel, instead of teacher and student/ rich and poor, is that in the latter examples, one is superior, and self sufficient and the other batul and will have nothing without the former.
However the male female dynamic is unique- as although in certain aspects- the male is the mashpia, they both are contributors to the child (in fact she is greater contributor) and nothing will happen without the other one so they’re equally needing the other to make creation happen. And so too Knesses Yisrael and Hakadosh Baruch Hu (ie Malchus and 6 Sefiros) team up to create new life force/ neshamos etc. There was alot more detail which I won’t put on the net, you’re welcome to learn inside, (biurei zohar, of noach from p. Yud Beis and on)
stam I thought it was fascinating from many angles and thought ujm would appreciateAugust 22, 2023 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218555CSParticipantJude- there were many Tzaddikim in pre war Europe outside of lubavitch. Lubavitch doesn’t believe in excluding others from being leaders and even Tzaddikim in klal Yisrael. The Rebbe met with, and highly respected, many admurim/ Sephardic chief rabbi/ etc etc titles.
Just happens to be that I don’t hear of any “Tzaddikim of Tanya” Today outside of the Rebbe, who by the way saw yidden who came to him from all streams of Yiddishkeit- not just lubavitch in case you were wondering
(Just cuz you’re gonna ask- yea there is only one nossi hador- nossi as in Neshama klalis of the gen, sorry it’s not popular… every stream in Yiddishkeit has something special and unique they contribute)
August 22, 2023 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218552CSParticipantAvira- golda Meir isn’t running anything from the grave- whereas if you’ve been to the ohel of the Rebbe, you’ll see all types of Yidden (not just Lubavitchers- yea I’ve been many times) with all kinds of reasons they’re coming, and his impact is even farther reaching than in his life (many more shluchim went out after gimmel Tammuz than before).
But yah, I don’t get exactly how it “works” because I’m not The Rebbe and don’t see spiritual workings etc. I just know it does because I see it
August 22, 2023 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2218458CSParticipantJust saying that no one has to worry about a Chabad veto over moshiach (if there ever was such a thing.)
It’s much easier for any Chabad person to accept someone else endorsed by Rabbanim/ gedolim worldwide (The logical thing to do) than to stubbornly insist the Rebbe must be moshiach (which is Emuna based more than logic based.) Whoever builds the Beis HaMikdash will be accepted by everyone (duh I should hope)
August 22, 2023 8:25 am at 8:25 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218311CSParticipantThe obvious difference between a politician and a tzadik with regards to how they are Hashem’s messenger is that a politician likely thinks his plans and actions on behalf of the country are his own cvs and nothing to do with Hashem although לב מלכים ושרים ביד השם, whereas a Rebbe is completely batul to Hashem and has no ulterior motives. Hashem’s light/ plans etc just shine through him because there’s no sense of a separate self… and this is the true metzius of a yid- to exchange his yeshus for bitul and thereby become/ achieve much greater than he could ever be stuck in his yeshus
August 22, 2023 8:23 am at 8:23 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218306CSParticipant“The Rebbe runs the world…”
I’m sure no one here would have a problem with the statement Bibi runs EY… it’s the same thing. Limited decision making (as per Hashem allots) as a messenger of Hashem.
That said, I personally don’t make such statements as i never say The Rebbe physically in this world, and I don’t see how it all “works” today (although I definitely see many requests “fast tracked” to Hashem, and the brachos brought down, as explained in derech mitzvosecha that when one knows how to present his request to Hashem it’s like asking the king in his treasury for money, as opposed to when he’s in his war room, which takes more zechusim etc, and The Rebbe is my best foot forward so to speak because were one Neshama). But Rabbi Cunin, who saw these things physically, does feel comfortable to say that, and it’s not an issue unless someone outside makes it one.
August 22, 2023 8:22 am at 8:22 am in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218305CSParticipantTo add to Menachem’s post, in Tanya perek Beis it explains that all neshamos are one body and receive everything from Hashem through the “head” (Tzaddikim/ Rebbes) Neshamos.
For another context, The Rebbe was able to tell an Israeli member of the army the accurate number of hour many soldiers had died on a recent mission (different than the official number given to the public.) when later asked how he knew, he said every Neshama coming into or leaving this world passes through his room…
August 21, 2023 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218260CSParticipant5783- just reading further your previous post- firstly I’m sure The Rebbe knows Tanya better than anyone else. bring the mimale makom of his predecessors etc. So you can look up the references above to see how it
all goes.Secondly I’m really not that learned, so I’m sorry I cannot give a complete succinct on one foot answer, but according to what I’ve learned in derech mitzvosecha- shoresh Mitzvas hatefilla- (sorry there’s49 chapters- I’m in the middle so far, but probably around 10) I remember that Hashem is one and there’s no levels, just different expressions of His Oneness- just like I might decide to give (chessed) or not to give (gevura) but ultimately it’s me deciding and doing whatever- so too everything from above Atzilus down through Atzilus etc is Hashem Himself using different forms of revelation/ expression. But it’s all Hashem which is why we say Keil referring to Hashem as He is kind- and not davening to the midda of chessed in Atzilus itself which could be ע״ז ח״ו. ע״ש
August 21, 2023 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2218245CSParticipant@nomesorah thanks, necessity creates brevity- for me.
@5783- looks like you have a highly complex post trying to insinuate that Chassidus doesn’t consider any Jew directly from Atzmus (which I haven’t gotten a great look at yet and would probably involve sharing chapters of derech mitzvosecha which no one wants) and since I’m probably not as learned as you- I’ll let The Rebbe speak for himself.
Direct quote sefer hasichos II 5751, p605, bottom of footnotes:
) וע”ד המבואר לעיל (ס”ה) בנוגע לישראל. אלא שבישראל, הרי מציאותם גופא הוא (כביכול) העצמות, משא”כ כח העצמות בעולם (ראה לקו”ש חי״ב ע’ 75. סה”ש תשמ”ח שבהערה 56).You’re welcome to look up these fns
August 20, 2023 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2217891CSParticipantAnd was it CA or Daas Yochid who were shocked I could use the word partners in reference to us and Hashem? And sechel hayashar told me off too- he apparently has never come across such language? I’m telling you, when I learned the most geshmake maamar of the mitteler Rebbe recently, and was delving into the refreshing waters of that relationship- I thought of the cr too, with irony…
Just a few regards..
August 20, 2023 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2217885CSParticipantAlso I will say, that my drive to get to the bottom of Moriah min hameisim issue started in the cr several years ago. I shared that newfound knowledge recently (as Avira can attest) on a different thread here recently… so I owe the cr my gratitude. Thanks!
August 20, 2023 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2217884CSParticipantThere are better questions to ask than making an issue out of nothing. For example I’d love to ask our learned Lubavitchers, keeping in mind last shabbos, it’s been asked on the CR how can there be a navi in chutz laaretz if a navi can only receive nevuah in Eretz Yisrael? Since I’m not very learned I haven’t come across the answer yet. I’d love to be enlightened.
August 20, 2023 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2217832CSParticipantBecause someone was glad to see me peeping in, I’ll give my answer again to the old old question which I
must’ve answered before (and this time you can keep it on file for the future if you find it helpful.)Here’s how a simple Lubavitcher understood that The Rebbe is atzmus umehus areingeshtelt in a guf gashmi:
Every one of us has a Neshama which is (at the core of its core- yechida) a chelek Eloka mimaal mamash (Tanya Perek Beis.)
However, most of us operate on a lower level of soul for the most part:
Nefesh- action
Ruach- emotion
Neshama- intellectualThese take up the vast majority of our lives. Sometimes we get a bit of a Chaya- Emuna or Yechida- one with Hashem (usually brought out with mesirus nefesh where one feels it is impossible to separate from Hashem.) moments.
However, A Rebbe lives in tune with the deepest part of his Neshama- yechida lyechidcha at all times. He is a proper G-dly ambassador every moment of the day (which is who all Yidden are at our core.)
(There’sa sicha in 5751-5752 where The Rebbe says the metzius of every Jew is Atzmus umehus.
That’s the understanding of a simple young
Lubavitcher. Menachem Shmei added other mekoros- it’s not solely a Lubavitcher thing. The endAugust 19, 2023 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm in reply to: Question of an ignorant, closed-minded Lubavitcher #2217565CSParticipantThanks for the laughs!!
July 11, 2023 8:20 am at 8:20 am in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2207422CSParticipantAvira- agreed- none of the conditions for moshiach Vadai have been met (and if anyone gives you a hard time on this- you can see The Rebbe say it himself in kuntres Beis Rabbeinu shebibavel)
July 10, 2023 9:17 am at 9:17 am in reply to: The Five Most Likeliest Candidates to be Moshiach #2206993CSParticipantAvira- not a contradiction. Yes he needs to fulfill all his Halachic criteria to get geula set up. But once that’s done, why is he called a king? What’s the significance? The answer is that he will elevate the people by being משכמו ולמעלה מכל העם in his Neshamas level and comprehension of Elokus, which he will then use to elevate the people. (He won’t need to force/ control the people because we won’t need policemen when moshiach comes. So this is the loftier idea of a king.)
See Derech Mitzvosecha- minui melech for more
CSParticipantYes sechel, and thanks for your comment. I’ve actually just gotten into learning the Alter Rebbes maamarim on Shir HaShirim- incredible stuff!!! One of the highlights of my week (in the personal development/ dveikus realm!!! (The other few also being in the category of learning 😉)
CSParticipantAvira, if you are interested in the topic, you can Google the two pesukim I originally listed (aishes chayil ateres baala and nekeiva tisovev gever), and Google Chassidus, and you can look up the original sources on Hebrew books. This isn’t The Rebbes original idea, so you can find previous Rebbeim etc explaining the topic. Why I personally am fascinated with Chassidus, is because it takes lofty obscure Kabbalistic concepts and makes it very relevant by using mashalim from our own life experience, as the posuk says “מבשרי אחזה אלוק”. But BH there’s such a wide sea of Torah learning, and as long as you hook onto something within that sea to inspire you and engrave Torah into you until it’s inseparable from every part of your life, along with special mentors etc., that’s great.
CSParticipantI’m kind is surprised why no one asked why/ what it means that geula will be a feminine era whereas golus was masculine… that would have been an interesting discussion. But never mind. Go on and discuss Zionism or whatever else…
CSParticipantAvira,
“So what the Lubavitcher rebbe said did not address teaching the women the beauty of jewish femininity; the akeres habayis, the stronghold of emunah, the calm nurturing mother, the builder of klal yisroel, the daughter of Hashem – those are things beis yaakov teaches to inspire Jewish girls. And they don’t feel any less valuable because of it. Why couldn’t the Lubavitcher rebbe do the same?”So we are taught all this. But also explaining how true
feminism is Torah, which does appeal to women from all backgrounds. You think a woman wants to wear a talis for the sake of wearing it? No, she just doesn’t want to feel that the men have more of a connection than she does. Seeing Torah which values and celebrates Both genders is eye opening for many.And then the deeper dimension of the increasing importance of the feminine takes it to a different level. Today, Lubavitcher women feel just as much Chassidim of The Rebbe as the men. You could have a couple where the husband isn’t Lubavitch and the wife is. I’ve heard a few times that young women from other Chassidic groups became Lubavitch precisely because of this- they’re not just the wife of a chossid or a daughter of a chossid who assists her husband etc with his avoda by keeping a clean home etc. but she herself is a chossid. One woman described how she walked into 770 to check it out, and was happily surprised to see the girls delving into the sichos, saying Chitas etc. This new emphasis on the women, Nshei Chabad communal events etc, is because of the spiritual era we are entering more and more. In the outside world, the feminism is a actually anti women but the concept is real
CSParticipantCont’
And at the same time there is a deeper meaning behind it which is the world shifting towards the feminine in preparation for the geula as mentioned…CSParticipantAvira,
“ Ok, let that be the case for arguments sake. So is Christianity, according to the rambam. Should we teach people that Christianity is kosher? We have a Torah which teaches us what Hashem hates and what He approves of. ”So as stated, the secular manifestation of feminism is
wrong. The reason I mentioned the underlying theme is because too many women, feminism represents the idea that women are valued as much as men, as that wasn’t the case in the past. So The Rebbe latched into that
theme and showed how we have this in Torah so we don’t need modern feminism which is actually anti women/ family etcCSParticipantUjm it would be helpful to quote which part of my post didn’t sit well with you.
CSParticipantThe Lubavitcher Rebbe
CSParticipant“ I would imagine that alarge part of Feminisms are against the Torah. I never got an answer why Feminisms in general are counter to everything.”
Just putting it out there, the Rebbe saw feminism as an essentially positive movement at its core, that was there because the world was shifting towards the feminine- as will be completed fully when moshiach comes (all over Chassidus on the pesukim אשת חיל עטרת בעלה and נקבה תסובב גבר) but emphasized that the secular implications that women could be and should be as good as men with careers etc. was erroneous, and also anti feminism, because it implies that women have to be like men in order to be worth something. Torah is the true feminism that celebrates women’s qualities. Women were spoken to first by Matan Torah, where we started off, and women will bring us to the completion of the Geula.
But there were things The Rebbe did as part of embracing this era of feminism that were not done before, such as sichos just for women, encouraging women to speak up and give their opinion, special mivtzoim for women in and much more
CSParticipantHere’s a cool deep understanding of Shema Yisrael in honor of Lag Baomer when the inner aspects of Torah were revealed (that I learned today):
The short version: Hashem really cares about what you have in mind when you work or make supper.
Long version:
So when a Jew contemplates how Hashem is much greater than all of His Unlimited light, of which sparks chipped off and descended into this world for us to elevate…
Then
Ayin=70= 7 middos x 10 (kochos they are inclusive of)
And the Ayin is big to represent the intellectual (as opposed to emotional) excitement that this contemplation brings
Yisrael= the Jewish people who are tasked with bringing this revelation into all the mundane acts of their lives by doing it with a G-dly intent
When we do this, then
Hevaya= the Unlimited Light of Hashem becomes unified with
Elokeinu= Bina of Atzilus- the first place we can feel that we have some grasp of the new G-dly revelation
Hevaya = The Unlimited Light of Hashem descends further to unite with
Echad= the lower Sefirot where one may think that G-d is not one as the Sefirot may have contradictory characters, so it unites with The Unlimited Light of Hashem to become truly One with Him, and then
Baruch Shem Kvod Malchuso Lolam Vaed…
The Light descends further to give all the worlds life force until it reaches us and makes physical changes in our world such as healing the sick etc.
This is the type of stuff I love to learn about Hashem 😀😀
CSParticipantGutte voch from my locality. Avira see the difference between mimale and sovev, but I agree with your point
CSParticipantI guess my point is that people have to take ownership of their own emotional/ mental health and see what helps, and if one Rav isn’t helpful, very likely another Rav may be. Just like in therapy it often takes time and effort to find one that works. The only difference is that Torah uplifts you above the issue in a way that therapy can’t, because it isn’t Hashem based because it’s not Torah
CSParticipant“It is a mistake to portray the mental health field as basing all pathology on the client being the victim of someone else’s cruelty. ”
This was meant as an example of people I know/ heard about their description of therapy- and they’re still struggling as a result…
My personal experience was one who was confident that could help me, and let’s just say that I ended up in the hospital because the solution wasn’t what therapist has said it would be, and I diligently followed instructions…
And then, less dramatic was the cbt which was plainly unhelpful. BH I recovered and emotionally is only because of Torah.
CSParticipant*lives not loves
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