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This converstaion should be over since we’re dealing with Gedolei Yisroel. As soon as we have an input, it’s trouble. Who are we to agree or disagree with any of these gedolim? We bacame very sure of ourselves and haugthy. No bittul
No, it’s one of the “Rabbis” of NK
We have a kabulah from our rebbes that those who know don’t say and those who say don’t know. It bring a weakness in emunah to the generation if c”v Moshiach doesn’t like the people here are saying.
Bobover Rebbe ZT”L once said based on this subject: Hallel zol men zugen; KINUS darf men zugen
Interesting: Actually where I grew up (Bobov), it’s customary to where payos on the outside curled meeting the collar bone. It is hiddur mitzva to walk with payos unabashed and not afraid of anyone.
The way I see it and many others agree with me: thatsince people work in industries that don’t know jews nor their payos minhag, hiding is the right thing to do. I happen to agree with this unless the individual get away with it.
I had the curled payos when I got married but put it behind the ears due to my leaving kolel and starting to work for fortune 500 company.
I guess another perspective. Btw, On Shaboss and Yom Tov, I would curl back my payos.
Rebbe reb Yonason of Eibshits ask that question in the era of the machlokes of him and the Yavets. When stam people were taking sides, he turned the chad gadia all around.
If the cat is busy with the mouse, you dog why get involved? So: the dog was wrong, the stick was right, fire was wrong, water was right, cow was wrong, shochet was right, malach hamoves was wrong and HKB”H was right so to speak.
Of course the message was that when gedolei yesroel not on your caliber fight, stay away.
Yes, the Beer Mayim Chaim was born to them. The Beer Mayim Chaim is a fire of chassidus and is one of the basic sifrei chassidus learnt around the world and is easy to understand from bochur to yungerman.