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This seems to be getting interesting…
Sometimes a new board will come in with absolutely no idea as to what is involved in running a school. They think they will just throw everyone out and start over. Easier said than done.
With regard to a particular person on the board, and the question of his integrity for this matter, I don’t know the people involved. Sometimes one person thinks they can save the world; and in reality they do the most damage.
However, I do find in general, IMHO, a lot of the so called “Askanim”, that are involved in wonderful organizations are the same people who strong arm others when it comes to business or their personal lives. These people are generally shrewd business people, and that got them to where they are.
If it is true that he was pushed out the door in middle of the school year, you would hope there was a good cheshbon behind the process. I have worked with schools and the transition is difficult under the best conditions. Now you have one of the largest schools around, in one of the most hostile school environments ( yes, our very own BP), in one of the most difficult financial environments in many years, looking to just move on without someone who knows the very details behind every contract, program, voucher etc…
Good Luck!
CAZMemberAll the people in BP complain about the tuition. Do they know what it is like in the rest of the world? Full tuition is less than $5k in BYBP. And most are not paying close.
If full tuition in my schools were $5k, I would be very happy; but it is not a sustainable amount.
BYBP built a new building at the height of the boom. Economy hits, the demographics change in BP, and it is even harder to collect money during the recession.
I do not envy the person who is given the job to try to right this ship.
It is not easy to take over without any form of transition between the old captain and the new captain.
CAZMemberThe question is void of a lot of facts. Obviously it is best to do whatever can be done in Bais Din. However, if one of the parties are non-compliant to negotiate in Bais Din, then there is no choice and the Bais Din will usually give a Heter to go to court.
People try to hide behind Halachah and say the side going to court are going against Halachah. In reality, they are the ones who avoid the Bais Din and think they can claim to be the righteous one by bad-mouthing the one going to Bais Din.
Bottom line: You need to know the facts. Obviously, first it must be worked out in Bais Din. However, if Bais Din sees it fit, they will give a Heter to go to court. Bais Din does not have the authority to force compliance that secular courts do.
July 15, 2008 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm in reply to: Out Of The Mailbag: (Who Are Our Camp Counselors?) #619583CAZMemberI am the one who wrote the letter and was not going to comment at all on all the misinterpretation of the letter. I appreciate all of the Rash & Tosefos that everyone has come up with. However, I was glad to see Zanvel Shlomo hit it on the head. Any reference to “better” or “2nd Rate” yeshivos was a pun on what stereotype people put on yeshivos and their policies. They were put in quotations for a reason. This was not to be interpreted as an attack on SEED at all. The work they do is phenominal. You still can’t deny the fact that there are a greater proportion of boys going on SEED than to camp for the reason alone that the yeshivos don’t let them go to camp. And after one summer of renting a car and checking out every surrounding city’s ball park and etc… they lose any Cheshek of returning to camp. It used to be that there were counselors who were in camp every summer until they got engaged. Counselors had their sheva brochos in camp. Today it is most probably unheard of.
Again, this is not a knock on SEED. There has been such a strong shift of Bochurim who no longer go to camp and go to SEED, that I think you have to look at what the underlying reason is. I only picked SEED because if they are not in a learning camp or in SEED, then we know they are probably really not doing anything productive this summer.
Camp is by far not the root of the problem. Obviously it is the society and stereotypes that were created by us. However, this is the result. And I don’t think people realize how far-reaching the effects of Summer Camps have on the children attending and the experience in life it brings to the staff members. If you never went to camp or didn’t enjoy camp, then you most certainly won’t understand.
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