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Biden’s legacy is uh… Uh…. Uh…. anyway
You missed loser lefty’s!!! 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ
And by doing so you have guaranteed the greatest comeback in political history.
Unless jackk is successful in his attempt to fix what the freak from bethel messed up.
All the blacks that the damnedocrats have been enslaving are now realizing that trump can save them from the fascist damnedocrat plantation of the vile black ghettoes racists like jackk Reb loser gidol hadora force them to live in
The damnedocrat party is finished.
馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ
Reb Eliezer and jackk are sitting Shiva for the assassin. And for any chance of the damnedocrsts beating the actual American hero running for president.
The assassin would have been jackk Reb e Godolhadorahs and the rest of the cuckoo for cocoa puff left’s hero, but he missed.
However, no need to fret!! Jackk the tuff guy will step up, take charge and make sure to fix crooks’ catastrophe.
Reb Lazy, you really think that the problem w the cadaver is that the cadaver cant express itself clearly?
And a word of caution, you missed your politruks latest instructions. All the choshuve Dems want to replace Biden bc only hopeless hacks such as yourself still think geriatric joe is not alive. Careful, if you don’t get in line with Big Brothers wishes you might find yourself looking up at the grass….
In other words, Reb e wants to be able to handicap any president he doesn’t like with bogus charges like all of the charges they faked against Trump.
Which by the way is blowing up in your stupid faces bigly.
Haha!
Typical communist dictatorial claptrap.
And Biden is as sharp as a tack too, he he.
Jackk is a rabid racist who also lacks any ethics.
He is also an ardent follower of his beloved Schiklegruber and prize student of Goebbels.
GodolHadorah is actually GodolhaSinah
Jackk aka Joseph Goebbels star discipline strikes again.
Jackk is giddy that finally those uppity Jews in la are being put in their place by jackk’s freinds at the freedom fighters for the peaceful Palestinians Jew hating club.
He is ecstatic that Jews are finally beginning to be persecuted in America
The ,home issue is a cynical political gambit by corrupt Israeli politicians looking to 注讜专讘讗 驻专讞 the idiot Israeli pop. from the abysmal failure and lack of answers they have for serious existential Q’s facing the nation
Shame on all the idiots who fall for this sinas chinam. They are bringing on more APC fires and deaths on those they supposedly love and care about.
讗诐 讛’ 诇讗 讬砖诪讜专 注讬专 砖讜讗 砖拽讚 砖讜诪专
And you are removing His guardianship with this nonsense.Yes, in the same way the Russians wanted Jewish yingelach as cantonists
Jackk is arabid racist who can’t stand blacks leaving the ghetto and being successful in life.
For jackk the only place for a black is in the ghetto batey surviving on welfare, not knowing who their fathers are and getting killed by drugs or gang violence.
Jackk is perfectly happy with that state of affairs bc he doesn’t live in those purgatories. He is a rotten NIMBY marxist/leninist/Stalinist/maoist with a hatred for all mankind.
Shame on jackk who prefends to love people when he is nothing more than a rabid racist.
But asking rabid racists to feel shame is a brocha l’vatolo
Jackk is a rabid racist who enjoys seeing blacks love in slums and dying from drugs and gang violence.
It drives him crazy when those he considers untermenschen are successful.
This racist attack against a successful black man is typical rabid racist behavior.
I would say that jackk should be ashamed of himself but rabid racists like jackk whose goal in life is the putting down of black people do not have any shame.
Jack is a hamas sympathizer. He yearns for more oct. 7’s bc this will make his Master, the Incontinent, happy. I would praise jackk for his loyalty to the Incontinent, however he doesn’t need to stand next to him so his loyalty hasn’t really been tested.
Jackk is Hamas. No point in talking to him
Sorry jackk you have obtusely demonstrated time and again that you’re one of them.
It’s too bad you weren’t alive in 1933. You could have gone bat up jews alongside your brownshirt heroes
Jackk, go join your heroes at the Columbia u protests. You are one of them
讛讬讬谞讜 讛讱
Kuvult
You are seriously comparing boro park to Gaza.
Really?
Is anyone calling boro park an open aired concentration camp?
Gaza actually is; albeit because of Hamas And not because of Israel.
Please go live in Gaza for a week and then come back and tell me if anyone whose main goal in life is not killing Jews would remain there.
The fact is that given the chance virtually all Gazans would leave in a heartbeat. Probably end up in boro park. Or Calgary. As long as it’s not Gaza.
If only you cared about Gazans as much as you hated Jews
Jack and Dora
You’re right, defending ourselves against the Gaza Nazis is too costly and complicated.
We should just let them overrun the entire state of Israel like they did on simchas Torah. Much simpler
Amil
More to the point: Jews are not discriminated against living anywhere in the u.s. bc they are Jews. The Arab proposed policy is inherently anti semitic.
But so are Israel’s leaders, so they see no issue with anti semitic behavior by their fellow antisemites.
Coffee addict
‘Boys
What type of city is going to be in Gaza? A Jewish city in Gaza controlled by Muslims that will have to spend millions of dollars protecting each yid?
Man鈥檚 what type of Jew would want to live there (besides NK, but I digress)’Nice straw man you’ve created there, coffee. It’s always fun to argue with serious people.
Gadolhadorah
‘Netanyahu has repeatedly said that having Yidden living in Gaza would require an enormous diversion of security forces from the West Bank and northern border areas with Lebanon and Syria’
We stopped ‘diverting’ resources from southern Lebanon in 1999 and now have well over 100,000 deadly rockets aimed at all of Israels critical infrastructure.
We stopped ‘diverting’ resources from Gaza in 2005 and got
20 years of non stop rockets as well as Oct. 7 as well as what that very same netanyahu calls an existential threat in the form of Hamas that he says (does with him is always another maaseh) must be destroyed….Pray tell, How much more stoppage of ‘diverting’ resources do we need to achieve peace and security?
And really, if a state doesn’t have the resources to defend it’s own borders – can it really expect to last very long if it is surrounded by animals who feel morally and religiously justified, nay, compelled to commit genocide? (They also happen to be backed by the vast majority of humanity.) I think not
While getting sinwar is good, as b’avod reshoim rino; in the big picture his death would make no difference bc to quote a fictional character who remarked about one of his tens of wives being murdered:
“I’ll get another”.
So long as Gaza is not completely destroyed and conquered and subjugated they will continue to be an existential threat to Israel.
Israel was never interested in wiping out and controlling Gaza so this war was lost before it even started.
But Bibi Bibi he’s our man if he can’t do it no one can…..
edited聽
讜讬专注讜 讗讜转谞讜 讛诪爪专讬诐
The meforashim explain that the use of 讗讜转谞讜 as opposed to the 诇谞讜 means they *made us* 专注 )not that they *did* 专注 to us.oNE tyche is : hey bashmutzed us.
The goyim, 讬诪讞 砖诪诐 讜讝讻专讻诐, are always looking for ways to hurt yidden.
However they have a conscience too that nags at them and seives them mad for being so awful.
To pacify their conscience they lie to themselves and the world about how bad the Jews are and that supposedly justified their barbaris towards us.
Even the Germans 讬讬诪讞 砖诪诐 讜讝讻专讻诐 did this through their ridiculously crude portrayals of the Jews in der Sturmer etc.
To a large degree, the pro medina/anti medina machlokes is moot.
The medina for better or for worse is here and as much as one legitimately hates the medina, it is not possible for it to go away bderech hateva wo horific danger to Jews.
The question that is lmaaseh today is : how does a frum Jew support the medina vis a vis how it protects Jewish lives and enables a relatively comfortable torah lifestyle wo comprising on ones ideological opposition to the state as the states mahus is in clear opposition to almost all torah values.
Btw, this is the real reason frum Jews don’t serve in the army en masse – the state is not our state. It does not represent us any more than the USA or Russia does, so you won’t find any mass of yungerleit signing up for the marines or the Wagner group either. We are still in golus and will only identify with a political entity when it is under Melech haMoshiach and Sanhedrin.
OTOH, serving in the idf in order protect Jewish lives is a zchus that can’t be overestimated.
The challenge for frum Jews is to balance these two concepts that can easily be misunderstood as being at loggerheads when in fact they are not.
Their point is to endanger the Jews living in Eretz Yisroel.
Now, one can be against the medina, like satmar and most of frum yidden wo doing things that give moral backing to Nazis.
By neturei karta having gone off the deep end and giving backing to Nazis lichoira they fall under the category of malshinim.
Success? BiBi? Who are you kidding?
Bibi had plenty of chances during his 13 yr reign to destroy or at a minimum prevent Hamas from metastasizing into its current monstrous form.
His ‘vision’ is one of 讬讛讬讛 讘住讚专.
Free a million Hamas leaders for Gilad Shalit? 讬讛讬讛 讘住讚专. 讗谞讞谞讜 讞讝拽讬诐 诪讛诐.
His record is one of complete failure re gaza.
Whatever the exact nature of the failures of oct. 7 they clearly had to do with this 讬讛讬讛 讘住讚专 attitude and as pm he should have been on top of the army to make sure proper military attitudes were held
He is a complete security failure.
His legacy is one of 13 years of unanswered constant rocket barrages.
But he makes good speeches and talks tough.
And he did a really good job with his priority one goal:
Preventing Iran from going nuclear and generally expanding influence in the region. Yeah, Bibi has it all under control
And according to your ‘brilliant’ logic why did Chamberlain have to resign ? He was just a politician, not a military leader. And the obvious answer, once you stop trying to be an ibber chochom and start having the humbleness to using boring, non gaavadig common sense is – bc in a democracy, the military gets its vision and direction from the political echelon. They are just the experts or at least we hope so, in carrying out those directives.
The only hop Israel has is ironically bibi’s vanity. He knows if he doesn’t do something serious this time he and his ‘legacy’ will be mud forever and nothing positive will remain from anything he did. Kinda like Nixon and Watergate.
DovidRichman.
The military ‘experts’ of Israel were caught with their pants down and showed the IDF to be an horrifically incompetent organization.
Sabotage would indeed be a more reassuring explanation for the incomprehensible failures on so many levels that made the 讟讘讞 of Simchas Torah possible rather than the utter colossal incompetence explanation.
This incompetence was demonstrated back in the second Lebanon war as well.
Who even says the IDF has the capacity to wage a proper war in Gaza in which many American military experts are saying will be very difficult to achieve victory for any army.
I doubt the idf/knesset brass can handle the international pressure that will rain down like a mabul once said attack commences.
If u r so confident that they can, you really have not been paying attention at all.
The worst part is the IDF still places pr and Nazi lives above the lives of its own soldiers. IDF soldiers are cannon fodder for Israel’s super duper pr behemoth 馃お.
Until the army is fixed i.e. complete sacking and replacing of the upper echelons and 115 replaced mk’s it is best Israel not goninto to Gaza as going into Gaza now would be like Great Britain fifhting the Germans with Neville Chamberlain as PM, Defense minister, Chief of staff and every other significant position of influence.
Sorry to burst your bubble but seeing that the unchecked Arab riots across Israel of 2020 and Shemini Atzeres 2023 has not opened your eyes, you really need to wake up, this is where we are today.
Ujm is clearly correct. Israel is the most dangerous place in the world for a Jew today. Zionism has solved nothing.
The state can’t even take the most basic steps to protect itself bc they are more concerned about how goyim think about them then Jewish lives.
But what’s done is done. We are paying for the Zionists mistakes. 砖讜诪专 驻转讗讬讬诐 讛砖诐.
Chamberlain was kicked out during the darkest days of WW2, bc he was the wrong person to prosecute the war. Churchill, who was the right person to prosecute the war replaced him, during the war. DURING THE WAR.
Similarly, in 1973, golda MEIR had Dayan replace the idiot who was responsible for the catastrophe on the day after Yom kippur. DURING THE WAR. DURING THE WAR. AT THE DARKEST POSSIBLE MOMENT.
Netanyahu is clearly not the person to wage ANY fight where he faces any opposition except the one to keep his shteller. Unfortunately Obama was right when he referred to Netanyahu as chicken waste.
Netanyahu must be replaced now or thousands of soldiers lived will be lost for nothing, and the state will be in existential danger in short order. And the empty words – ‘never again’ will be shown to be empty words in a practical way.
1) the entire security establishment must go. This is obvious.
2) the legal establishment must be immediately stripped of all power as their policies have brought about an existential threat to the states existence, not to mention the deaths of thousands of Jews.
3) netanyahu must resign as Hamas built up during his 12 years of leadership.
Furthermore, he never stood up to or replaced the corrupt military and legal establishment so their failures are his failures.
4) the problem w getting rid of netanyahu is that his replacement will likely be even worse.
5) none of the changed can wait until after the war since all of the people who are managing this war are either corrupt or incompetent and have no business managing a war which is a serious existential threat to the state and the lives of millions of Jews who live there
6) the murder of that woman in Detroit does not bode well for the Diaspora. If we think this is a ‘them’ ‘israel’ problem, think again. America at least has moved past stam Nazi rhetoric into maasim.
6) b’kitzur, we are up the creek wo a paddle. Start crying out to Hashem asap
Someone quoted R Shlomo Zalman as being mattir abortions.
Surprise surprise, lo hada”m.See 谞砖诪转 讗讘专讛诐 讞讜砖谉 诪砖驻讟 住讬诪谉 转讻讛.
The chutzpa to quote a non existent psak as halacho is astonishing.
R Shlomo Zalman even assers doing amniocentesis to see if Tay Sachs is present.
If a woman is raped, r”l, an abortion pill may be taken up to 72 hours – no more – from the rape.
A doctor must not perfrom an abortion or put a woman under in order for an abortion to be done by someone else even under Pain of losing ones parnosso.
One may not even perform an ultrasound to determine if an abortion will take place. Here there is an exception though if one will lose his parnosso if he does not perform the ultrasound.
These are piskei din from r Shlomo Zalman.
Stop being motzi Shem Ra on one of the gedolei hador and gonask mechila. Alternatively,learn how to read before quoting someone.
Those who argue that abortions prevent unworthy lives from being lived bc of poverty or an unloving mother etc. should know they are talmidim of the author of mein kampf.
He felt that only the strong and productive should be allowed to live. The rest should be killed. And his talmidim acted on that belief.
In a sense you are worse than him in this respect bc he only wanted to kill ‘unhealthy’ or deformed human beings. While you promote the valuelessness of perfectly healthy people who will have to face difficulties and challenges in life. Or are a burden to the rest of us financially.
There is no question that the author of mein kampf would think it a mitzvah to abort unwanted children.
That is your Rebbe.
No reasonable person thinks that abortion is not murder.
Its a completely ridiculous idea that removing a neshomo from a guf is not murder bc of the physical location of the guf.
The neshomo comes in at 40 days. This is chazal.
By definition killing is the removal of a neshomo from a guf. Killing is actually called 谞讟讬诇转 谞砖诪讛. When done premeditatively it is murder.
The Rambam calls the halchos of murder 讛诇讻讜转 专讜爪讞 讜砖诪讬专转 谞驻砖. Emphasis on nefesh. Which comes in at 40 days.
If you think you have a source that says as such you are simply misreading or it is a false source (like the false Rashba R Moshe exposes)
Its a mefurash chazal that has no cholkim that the issur comes from 砖讜驻讱 讚诐 讛讗讚诐 讘讗讚诐 – The prohibition of murder.
There are no gemoras and no rishonim who dispute this. End of discussion. I am just quoting R Moshe. Anyone who argues is simply making things up wo any basis at all. Again , R Moshe in language he never uses. This is what R Moshe says. He also writes 砖专讬 诇讬讛 诪讗专讬讛 on the 讞讻诐 讗讞讚 (the tzitz Eliezer) a very derogatory term. Not R Moshes way at all. This was clearly a breach of halakhic norm not just another legitimate machlokes. The tzitz Eliezer let his pity on Tay Sachs babies and or their parents overide clear halocho and R Moshe called him out on it . Tay Sachs is indeed horrible and people like Reb Eliezer here also seem to think that that is enough of a basis to be mattir. Bc the Torah can’t be cruel like that. The tzitz Eliezer fell into the same trap Reb Eliezer did.
Nothing is ever more chamur in Din for a goy over a Jew. Only the punishment goyim are chayyav misa for things yidden are not.
But you never find that for a yid something is muttar and for a goy it is assur.And bichlal to say that it is murder for a goy but not for a yid is simply absurd and irrational. Either it is murder or it isn’t. You can’t just make things up. Again, removing a neshomo from a guf is killing by definition. When premeditated and not a shliach Beis Din or a 讛砖讻诐 诇讛讜专讙讜 situation it becomes murder. By definition.
The fact that there is no chiyyuv misa on abortion could be like was quoted in the name of R Tendler. Or more simply, it is like not being chayyav misa for premeditated murder via a grommo. To actually be chayyav misa it is not enough to murder, there are other technicalities involved that we can speculate as to why they are true. But killing via a grommo is no less murder than killing direct regardless of the penalty.
Ubiq.
There is no such 讞讜讜转 讬讗讬专. True he goes through 讻讚专讱 讛诇讜诪讚讬诐 various 拽讜砖讬讜转 and 住讘专讜转 to answer those 拽砖讬讜转. But l’maskono he paskens the Rambam Rashi and Tosfos who klor learn the sugya in Sanhedrin as 专爪讬讞讛 诪诪砖. No one ever quotes any rishonim who argue these Poskim. The acharonim only deal with kashyas (like the Uber of a sotah) and try to resolve them with the osak of the Gemorrah in Sanhedrin.
The maharit you quote is completely 住讜转专 a different teshuva in maharit and what he writes in the Teshuva you are quoting is so vait that R Moshe says it was a talmid “讟讜注讛 讜诪讟注讛” who wrote that teshuva. R Moshe (as well as R Unterman) point out that in that same teshuva he quotes a ridiculous teshuva of the Rashba claiming that the Ramban was advising a non Jewish woman ato have an abortion. RMoshe and R Unterman both point out that no such teshuva exists in our Rashba and have no hesitation in saying that is was just a ruse that this 讟讜注讛 讜诪讟注讛 was 诪讝讬讬祝.
Interestingly, at the end of the Teshuva R Moshe says 砖专讬 诇讬讛 诪讗专讬讛 on the ‘讞讻诐 讗讞讚’ who was matir. He also says that this 讞讻诐 讗讞讚’s chiluk of seven months is just made up out of whole cloth. It has no basis in logic or kabolo. What? Bc at seven months in chazal an Uber is considered viable? What nafka mina does that have ? If it is only a 讞讘诇讛 go up to 9 months. The whole thing is simply ridiculous.
R Moshe , 砖诇讗 讻讚专讻讜, goes out of his way to denounce what is happening in the world regarding the zilzul in 专爪讬讞讛 诪诪砖 which is abortion.
He was clearly unnerved at this new low in basic morality.
Also, This contradicts Tendlers tzu shtel of what R Moshe probably did say about generally not wanting the Malchus to get involved in religion even if we agree e.g. forbidding an assur type of contraception. Abortion is not a specific religious issue. It is basic morality. To practice it the way it is practiced today is the depths of depravity and how could anyone especially a Jew who claims to be in favor of Hashem and His Torah be in favor of depravity.
Btw, you didn’t answer many of my kashyos on 讞讘诇讛 which is fine. Just know that R Moshe (and re some of them, Tosfos, the 讞讜讜转 讬讗讬专 as well) who make these points as well. Not to answer Them is not so fine.
Just saw the 爪讬抓 讗诇讬注讝专. His main 专讗讬讛 is that no 讚讬谉 诪讜转 for 专爪讬讞转 注讜讘专.
I’m sorry. On this you build a heter for 专爪讬讞讛!?! 砖专讬 诇讬讛 诪专讬讛.. Bc you have a so so kashya – on that you are mattir 专爪讬讞讛?
砖专讬 诇讬讛 诪专讬讛.
So It it muttar to kill 注诇 讬讚讬 讙专诪讗 under difficult circumstances bc there is no 注讜谞砖 诪讜转 注诇 讬讚讬 讙专诪讗? Or to kill a 讟专讬驻讛? A 讟专讬驻讛 is an exception to 诪讗讬 讞讝讬转? Granted no 注讜谞砖 诪讜转 on a 讟专讬驻讛, but that’s not a 专讗讬讛 for squat. Sorry, this is not a serious argument but rather the argument of someone who thinks he can make up halokho bc he has come up with a 砖讬讬谞讗 住讘专讗.
Reb e.
3) we are gozer brothers and sisters of gerim 砖诇讗 讬讗诪专讜 even tough in actuality 讻拽讟谉 讚诪讬.
,And now you want to tell me that something actually assur for a goy is muttar a yid? Doesn’t fly.
4) bichlal that something should be classified for a goy a certain. Way and a yid a different way makes no sense 注诇 驻谞讬讜.
5( such a 讞讬讚讜砖 has to have ironclad sources in 砖住 and poskim. You can’t have a 20th century poisek make up svoras like that.
In any case. Even according to the 爪讬抓 讗诇讬注讝专 it is still 专爪讬讞讛. For the non Jews. And as such the moral depravity of the act stands.
Reb Eliezer.
I wasn’t aware that the 住讘专讗 to be maikil is bc they say it a 讞讘诇讛. Not 专爪讬讞讛. If indeed this is this 住讘专讗 it is an untenable position.
A) the drosho from where it is assur is 砖驻讱 讚诐 讛讗讚诐 讘讗讚诐.
The Torah clearly is calling this 砖驻讬讻讜转 讚诪讬诐. Nu, so you will taana why does a husband get paid for 讞讘诇讛? Not a particularly bothersome kashya. An eved who is killed also gives the owner a monetary compensation and there surely is no heter to kill an eved.
B) why do we need to come on to 专讜讚祝 when being mattir when the mothers life is in danger. The simple klal of 驻讬拽讜讞 谞驻砖 讚讜讞讛 讻诇 讛转讜专讛 讻讜诇讛 would clearly apply to 讞讘诇讛. Nor vus, it is 专爪讬讞讛 which only has a heter through the unique vehicle of 专讜讚祝.
Amil. I answered your question but maybe you need it a bit more spelled out. Murder is murder. In your typical leftist arrogance you’d rather play the I’m smarter than you game than accept simple truths that do not leave room for showing how ‘enlightened’ you are. It’s all games to you. The concept of 拽讚讜砖转 讛讞讬讬诐 grants you no advantage in a oneupmanship battle of wits so it means nothing to you. Shame on you. It is this very arrogance which is why you have accepted the depraved position of supporting mass murder of babies the in first place.
You need to find a way to express yourself to other posters with more respect, or at least less disrespect if you want your posts approved.
Ubiq.
Many of your questions are of the 注讜专讘讗 驻专讞 or 讙诪专讗 讙诪讜专 讝诪讜专转讗 转讛讗 variety and deserve no answer.
There is really one main simple point here. And this is why this gets me so upset.
专爪讬讞讛 is so basic a moral imperative that it’s being a 讬讬讛专讙 讜讗诇 讬注讘讜专 does not even require a posuk; a crude svora suffices. But in your subservience to the 砖讟讜转 du jour of the movers and shakers of the preists of modernity you have sunk so low as to not only understand that 讚诪讗 讚讬讚讱 is not 住讜诪拽 讟驻讬. You make career 讚讬讚讱 住讜诪拽 讟驻讬 and quality of life 讚讬讚讱 住讜诪拽 讟驻讬. And what is stated as a curse in the 转讜讻讞讛 regarding 谞砖讬诐 专讜诪谞讬讜转 you glorify.
Such depravity from people who identify as Torah Jews is particularly irksome.
So amil, just kill all of the kids in foster homes. Problem solved.
R Eliezer, yeah, what if? What if the kid is a mamzer? A product niuf? That’s a heter for retzicha for mamzerim? What, bc mamzerim won’t live he’s a treifa? I imagine mamzerim cause mental anguish to the parents as well. Come on.
But your whole heoro is so beside the point. For arguments sake say there are exceptions. For american law halocho is not really the issue. Many people are willing to make these exceptions and it is not the point. You are just using these exceptions to avoid the real issue. The wanton flouting of retzicha. The most basic starting point of any semblance of morality is lo sirtzoch and you poo poo it. How this is acceptable to you that the society you live in should lose this I cannot fathom.
Why do you harp on the 讬讜爪讗讬诐 诪谉 讛讻诇诇 and bc of this are willing to permit widescale atrocities and would accept living in a society that has no sense of kedushas haChaim, only it’s utility. You are accepting a Sdom like society or a dor hapalagoh like society.
This is clearly not the mindset of a rachmon, bayshan Gomel chessodim.
Had A smug racist such as yourself in 1835 would have justified slavery bc it saves the incapable blacks from starvation and/or lives of misery and suffering as they’ll never be able to take care of themselves in a respectable way.
Today the argument has migrated to they can’t care for their children so we should encourage them to kill them. This was actually Margaret Sangers actual stated philosophy. You were mechaven to that monsters daas. Yasher koiach. Ubiquitin the Eugenicist. If you are intellectually honest you’ll say the same about mentally retarded fetuses as well . And seriously why stop at the moment of birth? Kill black and other undesirable 2 year olds to save the mothers and themselves from lives of poverty.
Your thought leaders have already been mattir killing babies that survived abortions and have been born. You want to asser that bc it’s a religious distinction – you had to resort (in glaring amhoratzus) to a medieval Spanish Jewish Talmudist to come up w that clearly illogical and clearly religious distinction. Stop injecting religion into the state.
And in the future when the left says you can murder a 2 year old bc he is confining his birthing person to a life of misery you will nod your head and say Amen to that too. Bc whatever shtus de jour is prevalent amongst the smug 讞讻诪讬诐 讘注讬谞讬讛诐 讞专讚讬讬诐 讘注讬谞讬 拽讜谞谉 you’ll find a way to fall in line.
Sick, sick rishus. No concept of Kedushas haChaim. Totally utilitarian. Even planned Parenthood condemned Sangers racism on their website. But you have even less shame than them. You are not even embarrassed to proclaim that you are a Eugenicist. They at least give some terutz as to how today is different. I guess you haven’t gotten the message that it is no longer woke to be a eugenicist.
Amazing how you will justify the most gruesome murder of babies. And your faux concern for blacks women’s lives could be taken care of by offering the babies up for adoption. In any case you have the same patronizing attitude that I thought was a a relic of the antebellum and Jim crow south: ‘because blacks can’t care for themselves we should make it legal to murder their babies.’
Tendlers piece is disingenuous. He is comparing apples and oranges even according to his own words. He quotes R Moshe as being for the separation of church and state. Whatever that means exactly.
The abortion issue is not church and state. Abortion is murder. Period. Maybe we shouldn’t be for banning murder bc hey, where do you draw the line? Doesn’t it bc a religious issue? Please.
There is no way R Moshe would have said that we should not be for non Jews establishing dinnim that uphold the Sheva Mitzvos.Tendler just creates a machlokes btwn R Moshe and the Lubavitchher Rebbe out of thin air. Shame on him and his overinflated ego.
Besides, RvW is firstly a constitutional issue. It is horrific law.
It created a constitutional right out of thin air sans amendment. Since when did R Moshe get involved in a constitutional issue? If it is overturned depraved states like ny and California will still be wantonly murdering babies. Just the rest of the country will be free to protect the innocent from murder. If anything R Moshe would have an opinion on whether NY or any other state should institute bans on abortion.