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Right now I’m learning with someone Gemara that he has already learned. The learning for him is Chazara. You can always chazar it with someone else who has never learned it before. If it works for my chavrusa it might work for you.
“Are you planning on learning full time?”
No. I went to college, recently graduated and have a job. Right now I don’t have any desire to learn full time.
“I am not getting into it I meant I do not trust modern boys for personal reasons but I do trust yeshivish boys.”
I completely understand that. Sorry for jumping to conclusions. I wish you luck.
What do you call a cow with 2 legs? Lean beef
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After reading all this it seems that you don’t have much experience being around boys or relationships in general and thats not a good or bad thing. First you should realize that he likes you. You can be direct and let him know the truth. Tell him that you do not think what he is doing is appropriate and that you are not interested in going out with him. Saying you want to move to Lakewood is just hinting and some guys (like me) just don’t get those types of hints. Learn to say no when he asks you to do things that make you uncomfortable (like playing non Jewish music). At the end of the day its your decision and don’t stress yourself out about things like this.
The whole dating process is not easy and even when you find someone and you think they might be the one, it might not work out for various reasons. Sit back and understand that G-d has a plan and it will work out.
I’m a guy and I’m going through the process myself, so I understand there can be trying times. I’m coming from a more OOT MO YU type background so my experiences are completely different.
One thing that you wrote disturbs me. You mentioned that it was a good thing you never had a boyfriend (fine). But the reason you gave was because you don’t trust boys, yet you want to be set up with one (red flags). You do realize that if you don’t trust boys, then you are not ready to date one. If you want to have a good marriage then your relationship will have to be built on trust. If there is no trust, then what happens when you have kids? Will you trust your husband to make good decisions on how to raise them? Maybe I’m reading into that too much, but I recently was going out with a wonderful girl who had gone through some very hard situations and had never been in a real relationship before. Right as we were about to be much more serious, she realized that she was not ready to open up so we ended it.
Sorry for the long post.
Tl:dr Be direct with him. Sit back and don’t stress about the dating process, it will all work out. Don’t date until you are truly ready.
In my opinion it has to be Alex Clare. He is an Orthodox Jew who in 2011 had “Too close” hit #7 in the USA charts. Doesn’t exactly sing “Jewish” music but fits the OP’s criteria.
Are you talking about dreams where you are a spider? I had one of those. I was a spider and I was playing football. But it wasn’t in the NFL or anything. I was playing arena football on a fenced in roof, kinda like in the game NFL Street. I was climbing up walls and making great catches.
The next day I played football in my yeshiva and I caught the winning touchdown. So I think Spider dreams are connected to you playing well in football the next day.
Sam, YU is in Washington Heights. Turo would be a better choice
You can always go into New York city or one of the communities in New Jersey. Or you can always cook it yourself. Cooking is the best way to get good kosher food at a less expensive price than restaurants.
Honestly as far as apps go Pokemon Go is a very safe and innocent app. There are many incentives to walk around and explore the area you live in. There are ways to get Pokemon by walking and running around. It helps get kids out of the house and doing something a more productive then just sitting in the house playing video games. There has already been noticeable positive effects on some people with depression that play the game.
I do understand that it can be a annoying having Pokestops in some areas, but on the whole this is probably one of the better apps and if you really want to pick a bone with certain apps, there are many more which are much much worse.
There are many areas in the USA outside of NY that allow frum people to live comfortably. I’m not from New York and I am currently living in New York for School. The price of food overall is actually cheaper out of New York than in New York. Sure Kosher meat and cheese are cheaper, but the other things like fruits and vegetables and other objects are much cheaper and usually better quality outside of New York.
Almost all Jewish schools outside of New York will never reject a kid because they can’t pay for it. So there should not be any complaint about not being able to afford a Jewish education. Many people support these places outside of New York. However the choices are not always going to be perfect. But that can be a good thing as your child will learn to be more accepting of Jews from all different walks of life. In my high school class, there were kids from conservative backgrounds and kids that wore blackhats. We got along fine and we saw each other simply as, “my Jewish brother.”
There are many companies outside of the New York area. You can find a job in almost any city in the United States. While New York City has the most fortune 500 companies (72); Houston (49), Atlanta (22), Chicago (22), and Dallas (15) also have a large amount of fortune 500 companies. Most cities with a fortune 500 company have a Jewish community. (Think Denver, St. Louis, Detroit, Philly, Pittsburgh, L.A., Oakland – San Fran bay area, Seattle, Phoenix, Minneapolis, ect…)
It all comes down to how willing you are to leave your comfort zone. Unless the reason is something personal, there really are not so many legit reasons to stay in the New York area if you can’t afford it. Out of New York you can get by with an income of 50k, in New York that it is a much more difficult task.
CTLawyer – It would be better if there would be more people like you who think things through and make a thoughtful decision no matter which side you support. Personally I think that neither presidential candidate has a strong understanding of how the economy works.
I have major issues with both candidates. Hillary is trying to say that one of her main triumphs is foreign policy, while she defiantly has the experience, President Obama may be worst at Foreign Policy (which Hillary has played a major role).
Trump is too radical for me and is not very consistent with what he says. I have no idea what to make of him. I need more time to analyze the candidates to know who I will support in this one.
There are 2 cases pending against Trump and the FBI is currently investigating Hillary. There may be different candidates representing each party. The one thing I have learned from the primary season is to not rule out any possibilities.
In certain states the local elections will matter more than the presidential election. No matter who you support in the Presidential race don’t throw away your vote. Make an educated decision for each of the candidates in each race.
Okiale as zahava said, look into NCSY. Also look into Bni Akiva, they have shabbatons. Make connections with people in those youth groups and stay with friends. Depending on the area you are in, there might be other organizations. Talk to your local Rabbi to find out if there other organizations that have shabbatons. I know Yachad has shabbatons for high schoolers (Yachad is an organization under the OU that promotes people interacting with special needs individuals. Yachad also has shabboatons for middle schoolers and communities.)
I went away to a dorming MO Yeshiva for high school, I stayed at my classmates houses every 3rd week, sometimes more. Staying with friends is a great way to get out of your parents house for the weekend.
147 – Theoretical question, if someone were to go spend a shabbos at your place, would the discussion be about different phrases and calendar dates? Are you secretly a baseball fan and talk about it all the time? What is a shabbos at your place like? Also can I be invited?
There is a Young Israel and another shul called Sons of Israel (both are Orthodox) there. There is also another Jewish school there called Politz Day School.
There was Jewish life there before Foxman…
Get to know each other. Talk about childhood and growing up. Favorite activities, music, food, ect…
I know many people who went to OJ. The kids that go there are mostly coming from MO backgrounds. Some of the kids are coming from co-ed highschools. HAFTR, HANC, MTA, DRS, JEC(RTMA), TABC are definatly MO highschools. The only feeder highschool that may not be MO is South Shore. I’d say this represents a mostly MO student population. And this is not counting the non NY highschools where students attended.
The rabbis are not zionistic at all. For the last few years OJ has had at least 2/3 students stay for a second year. Many of those students continued to learn in other Yeshivas after their second year at OJ. They go to places like the Mir and, Beis, TOMO, and American Yeshivas like Shur Yashuv and Yeshiva Gedola of the 5 towns.
My point is that OJ is a yeshiva that caters to MO kids and ‘flips them out’. Many MO yeshivas give a similar type of foundation for students. Each place has its own unique approach to how they do that. But their goals are all the same. They all want to teach Torah true values. And they try to accommodate different types of students to their own needs. There is no one size fits all approach to learning which makes it more important for there to be different styles of teaching to fit each persons’ skill set.
Most people will probably say that its the other gender. Each person will have a different personality. Boys and girls can both be picky.
A full set of shas.
As Utah was saying there are many different Yeshivas and each one is good for different types of people. If you want I can list a lot of them.
Joseph, I wouldn’t dismiss all the MO yeshivas just like that. A lot of them are run by Charedi rabbis. They just target different boys. A place like OJ (Ohr Yerushaliam) is run by Charedi rabbis. Almost every one of the rabbis is Charedi and the boys are pushed to continue learning in different yeshivas and if they have to go to college then to go to landers or a yeshiva during the day and college during the night.
A Charedi place isn’t the best fit for everyone.
The question for me is not if I’d go over, it would be if I’d ever leave their pet dog. Dogs are awesome. Why would people stay away from them?
Tropicana Extra Pulp. It just tastes the best.
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Since when do Frum people not have dogs? Many of my friends growing up had one. For a while I had a German Shepard. I would assume that people in the New York area don’t have dogs because of living spaces are small and its hard to have a dog if you don’t have a yard outside.
Follow these 7 easy steps and laundry will never trouble you again.
1. Gather all the laundry into one giant pot.
2. Put the pot into the oven.
3. Forget about preheating that won’t make a difference. Fire up the oven to 450 degrees Celsius.
4. For good measure add some paprika to the stove top. Enough to make people think that its more than just for show.
5. Put on your Tailor made straight jacket. (You can find cheaper ones on the internet, but I suggest go scuba diving in the Arctic Ocean to find yours!)
6. Await for someone to take you away.
7. Never have to worry about laundry again.
147 – Does that include people who daven loudly?
The shul I daven at hosts a superbowl party. Does that make us idolworshipers? Mashiach Agent, you can give your opinion. It doesn’t make it fact. Superbowl parties are not avodah zarah. Also you can’t say any one crisis is because of a specific reason. The economy crashing did not come about directly because of people worshiping money. Who are you to say that? No person alive is great enough to give reasons like that. From an economic standpoint the economy got much better and is not bad anymore, people may perceive it as bad, but it mostly recovered according to data.
Can we get back to the drinking parties?
If the other is referring to social engagements i.e. fraternizing with the opposite gender, wouldn’t that help solve the shiduch crisis?
I’ll be there but I won’t buy anything.
What a nice and thoughtful … Is that a squirrel?
I’ll agree with The Goq. An Islanders game is a great place to go. Any other sports game would also be good. (Nets, Rangers, Knicks.)
David Draiman did a beautiful rendition of sound of silence.
This sounds like its coming from a Bernie Sanders supporter. Keep your socialism. Everyone doesn’t have to be the same.
Go out of your way and drive a third male driver so there won’t be a yichud issue
HAFTR and DRS have pretty good basketball teams if that is the sole deciding factor. Personally I would send your son to Rambam.
This is one of the funniest threads I have read in a long time. Well done.
You’ll be fine, speaking from experience (I’m a guy) guys get just as nervous. Just treat them like you would any other person. Like its the first day of school and you just met this new interesting person.
Personally I just wing it on dates, but it always helps to prepare before. Every once in a while I like to write down different questions/ observations that will start a conversation. I’m not as serious as other people so my questions are things like, Do people really go to Pittsburgh when they die? (Get it? People are buried in the ground, pits) Then I can talk about traveling or something like that.
You’ll be just fine.
Lots of sports teams: NFL, NHL, and AAA baseball.
*Whoosh* That is the sound of the humor going over your head.
Besides, who uses a grill that is not fleishig.
“Hold on Honey, I need to flip the mac and cheese, its been on the grill for 10 minutes now” – No religious Jew ever
Better to sit down and have an open honest discussion with your parents. You should be able to have a mature discussion with them. Remind them that its you who is most affected by this. Also you don’t want to go on many dates where you know you don’t want that type of boy. You would be wasting time.
Shushi: It doesn’t matter in the recipe. It gets burnt so its inedible.
I think this is getting a bit out of hand. Many communities do not have busing or anything like this. Busing is a luxury and there are many ways around it. Biking, Carpool, Walking ect…
Also these communities have many schools so the distance for the average kid should not be far.
Kids won’t miss school if they can’t have access to a bus. Many of those kids will just have to walk. Shouldn’t the parents take some responsibility in their children’s education. Maybe set up a system where people learning in kollel take their kids to school after scharis. Might have to talk to a gadol about that, but it would teach the kids how important school is for them.
KJ maybe they were trying to do Kiruv.
I don’t know if they could get Bibi to live a torah life, but they have a better chance with him (and all of Israel) than Muslims who want Jews dead.
I never heard of Tuna Soup but I’ll come up with a great recipe.
Ingredients:
4 Cups Water
4 Cans of 5oz Canned Light Tuna in water.
2 tsp Olive Oil
1 Small Red Onion
1 Green Pepper
2 Tomatoes
2 Cloves of Garlic (add more if needed)
Cayenne Pepper
Ground Black Pepper
Paprika
2 Tblsp Honey
1/4 cup Bourbon
Step 1: Open all cans of tuna,drain, and reserve the liquid.
Step 2: Add the oil to a 3 Quart pot.
Step 3: Dice all the vegetables and saute in the oil until limp.
Step 4: Drizzle the honey and bourbon over the vegetables. Add spices to taste.
Step 5: Add tuna, tuna liquid, and water and simmer uncovered for 20 minutes.
Step 6: Realize you are making a dish that you’ve never heard of.
Step 7: Reassess life while finishing rest of bottle of bourbon using honey as a chaser.
Step 8: Midlife crisis.
Step 9: Get steak. (It doesn’t matter what cut or where the steak comes from).
Step 10: Fire up grill and prepare steak.
Step 11: Throw steak on grill.
Step 12: Get hungry from drinking too much.
Step 13: Eat the tuna soup (tastes much better than you thought it would)
Step 14: Realize way too late that you have steak on the grill.
Step 15: Weep uncontrollably as you turn off the grill.
Step 16: Write poetry and sad songs to remember the glorious BURNT STEAK.
I know a bit about Beis.
It is a 4 year program. Many start from the first year, but some do transfer in after 2nd year at other place. Learning is good. There is a heavy midwest presence including boys and rabbis. The people I know that went/ are going there love the place. The guys have a lot of fun but they also learn. Its in Jerusalem but a little far from the Kotel.
If you have any specific questions I’ll try to answer them for you. I personally did not go to Beis, but I considered it and some of my friends went there.
Its better to have half a brain then half a Brian.
Could be, but I find it hard to detect the sarcasm in the post. I don’t know who Noah Feldman is, so if that is where it is then I missed it and took it way too literal.
VM So you are saying that it is possible to live completely following Halacha and yet still not be frum?
There are many modern people who are more frum than yeshivish people. You can’t make that ridiculous statement. Where is your proof and who are you that you can say something like that.
What about someone like me who grew up in a small Jewish community not close to New York (I will not use the term “out of town” because I find “town” to be relative). I grew up modern and still am. Are you telling me that I am not frum?
I know that MMY and Harova are full year programs. I don’t know if they have a summer component.
Your screen name implys that you have a bit too much time on your hands.
But it probably has something to do with my screen name.
Its better than looking on the moon.
I once heard about some one that was convinced that his bashert was on the moon so he built an igloo to find potential penguins to join in his quest to go to the moon. Naturally he failed. He only got polar bears that were looking to go to mars. When he came to his Rebbe, the Rebbe told him that he was a fool for trying to go recruit penguins to go to the moon. Everybody knows that penguins are found in the south pole (and Pittsburgh). He was just searching in the wrong places.
The point is that sometimes you think you need to go somewhere to accomplish a goal, when in fact you were looking in the wrong place all the time.
You should really speak to someone who knows you and who you trust. Asking random people online will get you crazy answers. It could be that both places would be good for you or that you just need to stay at home. G-d works in very mysterious ways.